Roundybout Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Why does it seem like Russia/Ukraine is the only region liberals and neocons care about? Will they? Not if USA/Europe have strong leadership. You can hate Trump all you want but Russia didn’t invade during his first term. They did the term before him and the term after him. They’ve done it while Europe is gutless and dependent upon America for defense. Should we go into Africa and start arming governments and picking sides in an effort to stop the relentless slaughter of civilians and rise of tribal warlords and gangs leading to the largest refugee crisis of the modern era? Thats something that is actually effecting Europe, almost as if it’s by design. So maybe there’s a reason we allow the slaughter of Africans but pick and choose our battles to focus on territorial battles in Russia/Ukraine, of which we provoke by expanding NATO and saber rattling on Russia’s doorstep. One man actually wants to stop the slaughter of the innocent men in Ukraine and Russia, while the rest of the Western world demands body bags… for what. Nobody, STILL, can outline the end game of funding a forever war. Nevermind the future effects of forcing Russia & China to further align. Russia, even in its current state, is still a major geopolitical rival and influence in the global economy. African nations like Sudan are not. We can supply aid to them, or at least we could before the MAGAs decided useful sources of soft power were evil communist demonic entities. Russia can cry and stomp its feet all it wants. Finland got in NATO all the same, and Ukraine should be allowed in too. "Provoking" Russia is a farce. It's like asking "well what was she wearing that night?" At the end of the day, we cannot allow Russia any more land. We must set a precedent that the world will not allow despots like Putin to invade. We must stare Xi in the eye and tell him "hands off Taiwan."
Orlando Buffalo Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago This war has been going on for 3 years and the past 30 months have had no good movement for the Ukraine side. The fact that Russia is the worst of the two does not justify the fact that we are spending more money in Ukraine than the Ukrainian are spending. It is truly fascinating to me that liberals will argue Russians in Ukraine is worth fighting but it is not worth fighting to get rid of criminal illegals aliens in our own. 1
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