aristocrat Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM Posted yesterday at 12:52 AM Alter eye thread. Trump votes against Russia and possibly ruins peace deal and you guys call him an idiot for that. lol
Big Blitz Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM Posted yesterday at 12:53 AM 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: What? Weidel is a lesbian, not trans. Shes also utterly insane. My mistake. The neo nazi leader is a lesbian.
cle23 Posted yesterday at 02:10 AM Posted yesterday at 02:10 AM 1 hour ago, aristocrat said: Alter eye thread. Trump votes against Russia and possibly ruins peace deal and you guys call him an idiot for that. lol Abstain then. But he purposely sided with Putin, days after saying that the invaded country, Ukraine, shouldn't have started the war. 2
SCBills Posted yesterday at 03:52 AM Posted yesterday at 03:52 AM Will Trump get Russia/Ukraine to a peace deal? Thats all I care about. Not this bs that makes some people feel morally superior. Maybe some posters here should play Call of Duty so you can get your war excitement without sacrificing innocent lives per every day to satiate your bizarre lust to keep this war going forever. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 04:02 AM Posted yesterday at 04:02 AM (edited) 11 minutes ago, SCBills said: Will Trump get Russia/Ukraine to a peace deal? Thats all I care about. Not this bs that makes some people feel morally superior. Maybe some posters here should play Call of Duty so you can get your war excitement without sacrificing innocent lives per every day to satiate your bizarre lust to keep this war going forever. We don’t want your God!” a woman yelled while another exclaimed, “Our God is Christian!” Call of duty. Written by a philosopher named something like “big balls”. Y’all r hilarious. https://www.mediaite.com/politics/house-republican-tells-fired-federal-workers-god-has-a-plan-in-hostile-town-hall/ Edited yesterday at 04:03 AM by Joe Ferguson forever
SCBills Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM Posted yesterday at 04:04 AM 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: We don’t want your God!” a woman yelled while another exclaimed, “Our God is Christian!” Call of duty. Written by a philosopher named something like “big balls”. Y’all r hilarious. https://www.mediaite.com/politics/house-republican-tells-fired-federal-workers-god-has-a-plan-in-hostile-town-hall/ Sir, this is a Wendy’s. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted yesterday at 04:19 AM Posted yesterday at 04:19 AM (edited) 22 minutes ago, SCBills said: Sir, this is a Wendy’s. Yeah, I know. One can hope. Personally, I love cideries. Fundraiser for local rivers affected by Helene and as you might guess, many progressives present . No guns. No animus. Good band and great local cider. Restores some faith in humanity. How many millions voted D last election? Edited yesterday at 04:27 AM by Joe Ferguson forever
Roundybout Posted yesterday at 12:03 PM Posted yesterday at 12:03 PM 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Will Trump get Russia/Ukraine to a peace deal? Thats all I care about. Not this bs that makes some people feel morally superior. Maybe some posters here should play Call of Duty so you can get your war excitement without sacrificing innocent lives per every day to satiate your bizarre lust to keep this war going forever. The deal has to make sense to Ukraine. They should not cede an inch of territory and should, ideally, earn NATO membership.
aristocrat Posted yesterday at 12:28 PM Posted yesterday at 12:28 PM 24 minutes ago, Roundybout said: The deal has to make sense to Ukraine. They should not cede an inch of territory and should, ideally, earn NATO membership. two obvious things that arent going to happen. so you support a war until ukraine has no men left? 1
Roundybout Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM Posted yesterday at 01:10 PM 41 minutes ago, aristocrat said: two obvious things that arent going to happen. so you support a war until ukraine has no men left? Why should Ukraine give up any land that a hostile invader took over? 1
T master Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 13 hours ago, cle23 said: There are reports of 43,000 civilian casualties (12,000 deaths) in Ukraine, but most agree that the number is MUCH higher. Several estimates are that over 100,000 civilian deaths. Russia has over 800,000 casualties. Ukraine has between 400,000 and 500,000 casualties. And who knows what Putin would accomplish if the rest of the world didn't stand up to him. Putin is less efficient, but that is mostly because the world now knows how horrible people can be given the chance. Russian military intentionally attacks civilian locations. They are raping and killing women and children. As i said there is nothing about a invasion of this type that is okay in any way, and yes Putin is a huge POS when it comes to a leader . Russia has always been a country that has tried to take over other countries that they thought they could easily control and become more prosperous by doing so . This is just one more chapter of that in their history . There are many others such as Hamas, Hezbolah, Taliban, ISIS, China, N. Korea, Iran, & many other Islamic states that just kill because their people will not align with their ways of thinking which IMHO is a reason why the US needs to go back being more economically independent of any country that allows these type of actions . But in comparison when it comes to deaths caused by the aggressor to carry out their take over Hitler is the all time king of the Ass hats not only in how many people he killed but how he did it . And yet even with all of the proof in pictures and those still alive with their personal testimonies of the Holocaust there are young people that don't believe it to be true . I pray that the world even as screwed up as it is today would never allow another person such as Hitler to ever do what he did . 🙏 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 41 minutes ago, T master said: And yet even with all of the proof in pictures and those still alive with their personal testimonies of the Holocaust there are young people that don't believe it to be true . there are also plenty of middle aged and older holocaust deniers. most voted for trump https://forward.com/opinion/652032/jd-vance-tucker-carlson-donald-trump-jewish-republican-holocaust-denial/ 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Why should Ukraine give up any land that a hostile invader took over? One of those regions is Donbas. A read of centuries of historical shifts in rulers, ethic populations, and sovereignty could lead an objective person to conclude the issue of ownership isn't as clear cut as they believe. My opinion is these Eastern provinces under Russian control should be neither part of Ukraine or Russia. Rather they should be granted self-rule and independence from both under the condition of neutrality. I expect I'm in the minority opinion on this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donbas
SCBills Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Why should Ukraine give up any land that a hostile invader took over? Sometimes life isn’t fair. How many innocent men need to die before you finally relent on this? Ukraine is literally going into towns and rounding up fighting age men in an effort to force them to enlist and quickly be sent off to the front lines. Same with Russia. Of which none of these men asked for this.. on either side. Obama essentially ceded Crimea to Russia and the corresponding move would be to do the same with the Donbas in an effort to end the war. You want them to join NATO? Which will never happen. And why would you want one of the most historically corrupt nations to be in NATO?… simply to antagonize Russia?… because that worked out so well. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 29 minutes ago, SCBills said: Sometimes life isn’t fair. How many innocent men need to die before you finally relent on this? Ukraine is literally going into towns and rounding up fighting age men in an effort to force them to enlist and quickly be sent off to the front lines. Same with Russia. Of which none of these men asked for this.. on either side. Obama essentially ceded Crimea to Russia and the corresponding move would be to do the same with the Donbas in an effort to end the war. You want them to join NATO? Which will never happen. And why would you want one of the most historically corrupt nations to be in NATO?… simply to antagonize Russia?… because that worked out so well. what if the Ukrainian people disagree with you? https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-war-peace-talks-trump-reaction-a3135cb1dfecc7dbcde663d3bb512e77
Roundybout Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 29 minutes ago, SCBills said: Sometimes life isn’t fair. How many innocent men need to die before you finally relent on this? Ukraine is literally going into towns and rounding up fighting age men in an effort to force them to enlist and quickly be sent off to the front lines. Same with Russia. Of which none of these men asked for this.. on either side. Obama essentially ceded Crimea to Russia and the corresponding move would be to do the same with the Donbas in an effort to end the war. You want them to join NATO? Which will never happen. And why would you want one of the most historically corrupt nations to be in NATO?… simply to antagonize Russia?… because that worked out so well. When do we stand up to a backwards, pathetic nation like Russia and say “no?” Allowing Ukraine into NATO will do so. Finland was admitted with no problems. If we cede Donbas, they’re just going to invade again down the line. Why does Trump see Russia as anything but an antagonist? He’s more open to them for free trade than Canada!
SCBills Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: When do we stand up to a backwards, pathetic nation like Russia and say “no?” Allowing Ukraine into NATO will do so. Finland was admitted with no problems. If we cede Donbas, they’re just going to invade again down the line. Why does Trump see Russia as anything but an antagonist? He’s more open to them for free trade than Canada! Why does it seem like Russia/Ukraine is the only region liberals and neocons care about? Will they? Not if USA/Europe have strong leadership. You can hate Trump all you want but Russia didn’t invade during his first term. They did the term before him and the term after him. They’ve done it while Europe is gutless and dependent upon America for defense. Should we go into Africa and start arming governments and picking sides in an effort to stop the relentless slaughter of civilians and rise of tribal warlords and gangs leading to the largest refugee crisis of the modern era? Thats something that is actually effecting Europe, almost as if it’s by design. So maybe there’s a reason we allow the slaughter of Africans but pick and choose our battles to focus on territorial battles in Russia/Ukraine, of which we provoke by expanding NATO and saber rattling on Russia’s doorstep. One man actually wants to stop the slaughter of the innocent men in Ukraine and Russia, while the rest of the Western world demands body bags… for what. Nobody, STILL, can outline the end game of funding a forever war. Nevermind the future effects of forcing Russia & China to further align. 1
aristocrat Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 8 hours ago, Roundybout said: When do we stand up to a backwards, pathetic nation like Russia and say “no?” Allowing Ukraine into NATO will do so. Finland was admitted with no problems. If we cede Donbas, they’re just going to invade again down the line. Why does Trump see Russia as anything but an antagonist? He’s more open to them for free trade than Canada! So you want us troops to to go to war? That’s the only chance to win. Unless you want Ukraine totally lost to Russia?
cle23 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 8 hours ago, SCBills said: Why does it seem like Russia/Ukraine is the only region liberals and neocons care about? Will they? Not if USA/Europe have strong leadership. You can hate Trump all you want but Russia didn’t invade during his first term. They did the term before him and the term after him. They’ve done it while Europe is gutless and dependent upon America for defense. Should we go into Africa and start arming governments and picking sides in an effort to stop the relentless slaughter of civilians and rise of tribal warlords and gangs leading to the largest refugee crisis of the modern era? Thats something that is actually effecting Europe, almost as if it’s by design. So maybe there’s a reason we allow the slaughter of Africans but pick and choose our battles to focus on territorial battles in Russia/Ukraine, of which we provoke by expanding NATO and saber rattling on Russia’s doorstep. One man actually wants to stop the slaughter of the innocent men in Ukraine and Russia, while the rest of the Western world demands body bags… for what. Nobody, STILL, can outline the end game of funding a forever war. Nevermind the future effects of forcing Russia & China to further align. Russia has nukes. Africa doesn't.
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