NFL Combine Thread: 3 (RB's, QB's & WR's)

[UKBillFan]

Golden's official 40 was 4.29, and Bond's was 4.39.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

My boy Golden is looking real good. 

 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

Golden's official 40 was 4.29, and Bond's was 4.39.

 

I have said repeatedly I think Golden is really fast. I have been kinda on my own on that hill 😅

[OldTimer1960]

7 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Felton was on my radar for an early day 3 pick. I’d be willing to move a few later picks to get him in the 100-115 range

Don’t they already have a pick in that range?  108, I think 7th pick of 4th

Edited Saturday at 09:53 PM by OldTimer1960

[LEBills]

18 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

It's certainly possible he goes earlier, but he isn't exactly reliable hands wise.   Lots of drops.  

 

Here is a pretty good review of his game. 

 

https://collegefootballnetwork.com/matthew-golden-scouting-report/#:~:text=Matthew Golden's combination of strength,in he 2025 NFL Draft.&text=Texas Longhorns star receiver Mathew,Day 2 prospect to watch.

 

 

A later round sleeper - Tai Felton.  Excellent speed and very productive at Maryland.  We've had some success with a WR from Maryland.  4.38 speed. 6'1"  NFL combine page projects as depth in the NFL, but I saw him multiple times against my Hoosiers and he is a very good WR who gets open.

 

Stat line: 96 catches for 1124 yard and 9 TDs.  Very underrated prospect IMHO.

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tai-felton/32004645-4c74-6837-2f7c-6dbeb6fa58ca

Golden is like AD Mitchell last year. Good route runners who blow up the combine but it doesn’t match what you see on tape. AD Mitchell had no yac ability. Golden has more yac but for someone with 4.3 speed he got caught from behind an awful lot this year. He is better than Mitchell who was a mid- second rounder last year tho

 

Felton is an interesting guy because he can make plays at all three levels but had a really high drop rate for someone who averaged less than 10 air yards per target.

 

I like the bigger receivers this year, Harris, Horton and Higgins tho I’ve only seen Higgins gauntlet so far.

Edited Saturday at 09:53 PM by LEBills

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, LEBills said:

Golden is like AD Mitchell last year. Good route runners who blow up the combine but it doesn’t match what you see on tape. AD Mitchell had no yac ability. Golden has more yac but for someone with 4.3 speed he got caught from behind an awful lot this year. He is better than Mitchell who was a mid- second rounder last year tho

 

Felton is an interesting guy because he can make plays at all three levels but had a really high drop rate for someone who averaged less than 10 air yards per target.

 

I like the bigger receivers this year, Harris, Horton and Higgins tho I’ve only seen Higgins gauntlet so far.

 

I disagree on Golden. I did think he looked super explosive on tape. That speed isn't a surprise to me in the way AD's was. 

 

Separately, Tez is the one that has hurt himself so far. 4.51? Eeeek. His size and that speed? Mid day 3.

[LEBills]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I disagree on Golden. I did think he looked super explosive on tape. That speed isn't a surprise to me in the way AD's was. 

 

Separately, Tez is the one that has hurt himself so far. 4.51? Eeeek. His size and that speed? Mid day 3.

Yea we will have to disagree there. I think he is fast enough to be a good player but don’t see 4.3 speed.

 

Yea Tez is day 3. Probably will go to Denver with his bro.

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, UKBillFan said:

Golden just ran 4:30. Understand he's one WR the Bills have met. Whether he reaches 30, and they go for a WR instead of a defensive player there, is another matter.

If he's there at pick 30 Beane and Veach could do the funniest thing ever.

[Dr. Who]

3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

If he's there at pick 30 Beane and Veach could do the funniest thing ever.

Naughty. Very naughty. Going to have to snub you at the next time traveler's meeting.

[jkeerie]

I love how Kurt Warner puts down the QBs with big arms...aka Josh Allen.  "It's unnecessary".  Jealous much?

[Cray51]

57 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Ya... I've got him at 47 overall right now... And I feel like the WR's are going to push up not down... Especially in the 2nd...

How high do you think he climbs?

[Dr. Who]

18 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Wait.  You wouldn't want that 5th round comp pick back we got screwed out of?

Ah, such modest enticement is only effective if there is a big, slow slot receiver that can't separate at the collegiate level available to justify the transaction. Though possibly one might substitute an earnest, high floor DL with modest athletic attributes. 

[KingBoots8]

56 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said:

Don’t they already have a pick in that range?  108, I think 7th pick of 4th

Man I forgot about that. I honestly don’t think about the pick positions until the comp picks are assigned. 108 would be perfect. If we had to trade into the bottom of the third I’d be fine since we don’t have a 3rd this year.

[KOKBILLS]

34 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

How high do you think he climbs?

 

I think it largely depends on the WR's that go before him. Like I said I have a feeling the WR's are going to push up, not down...But right now I would say he's pretty solid in the mid-2nd area... 

[Dr. Who]

Mid-round fella I kinda like is Elijhah Badger. 4.43 forty isn't bad.

 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

1 hour ago, LEBills said:

Golden is like AD Mitchell last year. Good route runners who blow up the combine but it doesn’t match what you see on tape. AD Mitchell had no yac ability. Golden has more yac but for someone with 4.3 speed he got caught from behind an awful lot this year. He is better than Mitchell who was a mid- second rounder last year tho

 

Felton is an interesting guy because he can make plays at all three levels but had a really high drop rate for someone who averaged less than 10 air yards per target.

 

I like the bigger receivers this year, Harris, Horton and Higgins tho I’ve only seen Higgins gauntlet so far.

 

100% disagree, he looks fast, plays fast, great set of hands, runs excellent routes but he may have improved his draft stock with his 40 time. I'd think he goes around where the Steelers are picking. 

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

100% disagree, he looks fast, plays fast, great set of hands, runs excellent routes but he may have improved his draft stock with his 40 time. I'd think he goes around where the Steelers are picking. 

 

I agree with you on speed. Hands... meh. Not awful but could be better.

[Cray51]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I agree with you on speed. Hands... meh. Not awful but could be better.

Gunner, my draft crush is Ayomanor.  Think he would be available at 50 with a slight trade up?  I see big potential with him in the NFL

[gonzo1105]

1 minute ago, Cray51 said:

Gunner, my draft crush is Ayomanor.  Think he would be available at 50 with a slight trade up?  I see big potential with him in the NFL

On tape he honestly reminded me of this years Keon Coleman. The 40 today def dispels some of that though 

[LEBills]

47 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

100% disagree, he looks fast, plays fast, great set of hands, runs excellent routes but he may have improved his draft stock with his 40 time. I'd think he goes around where the Steelers are picking. 

Don’t get me wrong, I think Golden is a first round player and would be happy with him at 30 which I agree is unlikely. The way he carried the Texas passing offense was awesome. I think he is fast (just not 4.29 fast), and that it shows up pretty well as he runs routes. However, when he has the ball in his hands, I think he is too easy to bring down. He only had 8 missed tackles forced on 58 catches this year and I think that may be part of the reason you don’t see him running away from defenders too often because when he gets interrupted he goes down. 
 

One of the plays that sticks with me is in the SEC Championship game, he creates nice separation, catches the pass the Starks misjudged. Golden starts running, Starks slips, catches his balance and runs Golden down. Starks ran a 4.5 40. 
 

Later in the same game he did break a tackle one on one with the corner and got run down again by the LB Mondon who just ran a 4.58.

 

Even in one of his best catch and runs against AZ State, he got caught from behind though it was after 50 yards

 

So in short, I think he is more of a Chris Olave or even Diggs than a Tyreek Hill. All good players.