OldTimer1960 Posted February 27 Posted February 27 Umanmiellen’s 40 wasn’t quite where you would hope for a pass rush specialist, but from what I’ve seen, he should look loose and flexible in the drills. Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted February 27 Posted February 27 The only position I really care about- big fat DT- who looked good but not top 15 good? I am thinking we might trade up to about 20 to get our guy if possible. 1 Quote
CNYfan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 The Kentucky kid is doing well. He may be there at 30 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted February 28 Posted February 28 22 minutes ago, CNYfan said: The Kentucky kid is doing well. He may be there at 30 Walker? He'll probably be there at 56 and 62... He's massive, but he plays super... SUPER high... He's going to need a ton of work. He's got a great physical package to work with. But I see zero bend in his game right now. I've seen a million guys over the years that scouts say play too upright, but I've never quite seen a a prospect where it jumps off the tape the way it does with Walker. Maybe because he is so tall... 1 2 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Indiana DT CJ West just ran a 4.95 40 at 315 Lbs. Was great for IU this year and showed well against OSU and ND. He is someone to watch. 1 1 Quote
H2o Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, OldTimer1960 said: Umanmiellen’s 40 wasn’t quite where you would hope for a pass rush specialist, but from what I’ve seen, he should look loose and flexible in the drills. I liked him on tape, but he just ran a 4.72 @ 244lbs. That doesn't look good. To be that light almost exclusively puts him as a 3-4 OLB as well. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Alright Just got through the Defensive Ends since I had to pick up my kid at school. Helped their stock: James Pearce Shemar Stewart Landon Jackson Oluwafemi Oladejo David Walker Jordan Burch Disappointing: Princely Umanmielen Kyle Kennard Fadil Diggs Wouldn't usually include Pearce and Stewart but their combines are going to make them top 20 locks and out of the Bills range so thats why I included them. Landon Jackson I'm going to have to watch more tape on but he will move into my top 10 rankings most likely. Oladejo looked really good but the production isn't there yet. Former LB turned edge. Walker is limited based on his size but he was really fluid in everything. Burch was expected to do well and did do well. For the disappointment. Princely had good testing numbers besides the 40 but 4.7 at 244 is not good and he didn't particularly look fluid in drill work. Kennard was much the same. Was just awkward in drills for a guy who led the SEC in sacks last year. Diggs ran a great 40 that will stick out but lacked power in bag drills and tested poorly in the other agility drills besides the 40 yard dash. 1 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Dan in Owego said: Landon sub 4.7 , 401'2 vertical🤭 Thats incredible ! Who cares about 40s 1 Quote
Dan in Owego Posted February 28 Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Thats incredible ! Who cares about 40s Yes imagine the things you could do lol Quote
HappyDays Posted February 28 Posted February 28 This is who I would bet on for the Bills pick. Fits this regime's type. 1 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Harmon looked solid and moved up in my board. Pearce is going to be disruptive. 2 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is who I would bet on for the Bills pick. Fits this regime's type. He wouldn’t be my first choice, but he is a polished pash rusher with an arsenal of moves. It sounds like from Beane they want to go bigger so my first thought for DE was Scourton but he showed up like 9 pounds heavier than Ezeiruaku Quote
KOKBILLS Posted February 28 Posted February 28 13 minutes ago, HappyDays said: This is who I would bet on for the Bills pick. Fits this regime's type. I've got him at 42 overall right now and I don't think I'm going to budge much. It's impossible not to recognize his upside. I really did expect him to test well. He's going to give these huge OT's fits on the outside. But he's 6-2 1/2-248... I'm just not convinced he's a 3-down player, especially in Buffalo unless they really start thinking outside the box. I don't know... I'm on the fence about him at 30... It's putting a lot of trust in McD/Babich to get it done. And I would think Von would have to be gone. But I think he could also easily have a 10 sack season as a Rookie in the right Defense. He is that good. 1 1 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted February 28 Posted February 28 How high will Jihaad Campbell go? Is he on the Micah Parsons path? Play him all around for a year or two until he grows into a dominant Edge? He's a really interesting prospect with crazy upside and a solid floor. 1 Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 28 Posted February 28 Surprised by both Shemar Stewart and Landon Jackson. Both guys both dropped significant weight and showed up well in the testing. I am still hesitant on Jackson as he seems so stiff to me. I still think he fits best in a 3-4 role. Although his 40 was good, his 10 yard split was not great. So he is a powerful athlete, but not twitchy or bendy in a way that I think will help him win in other ways than with power. 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: This is who I would bet on for the Bills pick. Fits this regime's type. IIRC @gonzo1105 had him at 30 in his mock. I am still weary of his ability to hold up as a run defender. Hes also had years of college experience and seems overall well developed as a rusher. Given his stature limitations and the fact he’s played 4 years of college ball, is he a high floor lower ceiling pick? Quote
EmotionallyUnstable Posted February 28 Posted February 28 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: Harmon looked solid and moved up in my board. Pearce is going to be disruptive. Surprised beane didn’t meet with Harmon yet 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: IIRC @gonzo1105 had him at 30 in his mock. I am still weary of his ability to hold up as a run defender. Hes also had years of college experience and seems overall well developed as a rusher. Given his stature limitations and the fact he’s played 4 years of college ball, is he a high floor lower ceiling pick? It's so hard to project that position beyond the obvious blue chips. What I like about Ezeiruaku is he had a ton of sack production and when you watch the highlights they aren't clean up or flukey sacks, he is flat out beating his man off the snap and bending to the QB. The short shuttle and 3 cone times show the pass rush ability isn't a mirage. Size like you said is a concern, a 6.94 3 cone isn't quite as impressive for a 6'2 player. You'd probably need someone like Rousseau on the other side so your edges aren't totally vulnerable. He fits the "type" of EDGE I'm looking for in this draft because his skill set complements what we already have, but Beane really just has to be right about whatever DL he inevitably picks high. The reason I think we might pick him is that Beane always picks an obvious need in the 1st round and he might go with a high floor player this time around given how his high ceiling swings have turned out over the past few drafts. Ezeiruaku's experience, developed pass rush repertoire, and character traits probably make him a pretty safe pick. Edited February 28 by HappyDays 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 28 Posted February 28 4 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: Indiana DT CJ West just ran a 4.95 40 at 315 Lbs. Was great for IU this year and showed well against OSU and ND. He is someone to watch. I like him as a mid round DT option. 2 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: How high will Jihaad Campbell go? Is he on the Micah Parsons path? Play him all around for a year or two until he grows into a dominant Edge? He's a really interesting prospect with crazy upside and a solid floor. He will go top 25. Stud. Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: This is who I would bet on for the Bills pick. Fits this regime's type. I really, really, hope not. That would be almost as disappointing a pick to me as Keon Coleman last year. Don't like his get off. Zero bull rush. Can't play the run (not just because of his size but because he loses contain frequently). He is bendy. I give him that. And I do like his hands. But I do not see a first round football player there at all. There are no Western Kentuckys on the NFL schedule. I think his ceiling is a situational pass rusher at the next level. That has value. Not first round value. If he made it to our second round pick (he won't) and we wanted to take a shot? Sure. I'd be fine with that. But he is a reach at #30. Brugler has loved him all along the road. I think he is wrong. Edited February 28 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote
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