Former Bill DB - Dane Jackson Released

[OldTimer1960]

I think this would be a welcome addition.  I really like the idea of not being absolutely forced into a CB early.  I think they would still consider CB in round one or two, but not as disastrous if the board doesn’t fall their way for CB early.

[Einstein's Dog]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Elam is getting a 7th round pick swap at this point at best. 
 

He is approaching negative value now.

 

If you wanted anything substantial for him, he needed to be traded 2 years ago. 

This is why I would like him in a big package for the Garrett or Crosby.  It clouds the value of the trade.  You put in J Cook, Elam,  and AJE along with draft picks.

[Chaos]

3 hours ago, Virgil said:

 If he's healthy now, I'd bring him back.  He was solid depth.  

key word in this statement to be evaluated is "was"

[Captain Hindsight]

I said something after Levi Wallace was available. I'd keep him on the shortlist, but I'm not rushing to sign this guy.

 

Since he left, we have a new DC, likely a new coverage philosophy and we need an influx of talent. Jackson has done well for himself as a late-round pick. But I'd be bummed if they signed him and didn't add some talent in the draft as a result. 

 

This should only be a signing after the draft IMO. 

[HOUSE]

Cleveland Browns, MAYBE

[HappyDays]

I've been saying a cheap vet like Jonathan Jones makes sense but Dane Jackson makes even more sense given his familiarity with the scheme. And then ideally one of our first 3 picks will be a CB who would compete with him for the job.

[HappyDays]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

We don't have to bring in every ex-Bill or ex-Panther (or in this case ex-bill and ex-panther)  Maybe we can try for some better players? 

 

Nothing wrong with wanting Elam gone and to upgrade the CBs on this roster.  It's a necessity, but bringing back Jackson doesn't move the needle.  

 

We're probably going to pay Benford this offseason or next so we can't be breaking the bank for our CB2. I would treat CB like WR - ideally you want your #1 on a big contract that he's earned and your #2 on a rookie deal. We've made just one significant draft investment there since 2017 and obviously Elam turned out to be a massive bust so we have to try again. Best case scenario is a cheap vet competing with a rookie drafted relatively high. Save the big cap investments for WR, DL, and safety.

[GASabresIUFan]

18 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

We're probably going to pay Benford this offseason or next so we can't be breaking the bank for our CB2. I would treat CB like WR - ideally you want your #1 on a big contract that he's earned and your #2 on a rookie deal. We've made just one significant draft investment there since 2017 and obviously Elam turned out to be a massive bust so we have to try again. Best case scenario is a cheap vet competing with a rookie drafted relatively high. Save the big cap investments for WR, DL, and safety.

In the Athletic today they suggested re-signing Douglas for 1 year at $10 mill with a $7 mill cap hit with 3 mill in 2 void years.  
 

Then using a good draft pick on a CB in the draft.  I’d suggest actually drafting 2 CBs like we did  in 2022 draft. 

[HappyDays]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFan said:

In the Athletic today they suggested re-signing Douglas for 1 year at $10 mill with a $7 mill cap hit with 3 mill in 2 void years.  

 

Wow I would hate that. I have no clue what Joe Buscaglia was thinking. Douglas fell off big time this year and isn't getting any younger.

[Mike in Horseheads]

A red flag should go up if the Panthers released him

[The Jokeman]

I'm assuming he's better than Elam/Lewis/Ingram as definitely bring him to be very least to be our 3rd CB. Likely not good enough to replace Douglas but we could use one of our 2nds for that.  

[billsfan_34]

4 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

scenario - trade Elam to a man intensive D like the Browns for a 6th next year or 7th this year just to dump the salary and then consider a vet min offer to D Jackson as backup with incentives for the amount of playing time in the event of injury to a starter..perhaps...

Elam has zero trade value, unfortunately 

[That's No Moon]

Can we stop having slow, zone only corners? Please? Can we demonstrate that we have learned at least one thing from our consistent failure to the same team??

[MJS]

5 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

I think they’re going more to man so I don’t think it’s going to happen 

Where is this coming from? Why do fans keep saying this?

[That's No Moon]

Just now, MJS said:

Where is this coming from? Why do fans keep saying this?

Hope.

[Mikie2times]

5 hours ago, FireChans said:

Elam is getting a 7th round pick swap at this point at best. 
 

He is approaching negative value now.

 

If you wanted anything substantial for him, he needed to be traded 2 years ago. 

My new favorite insult for people 

[That's No Moon]

25 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Elam has zero trade value, unfortunately 

They should have cut bait last year, instead we rolled into the AFCCG with him as the primary backup. There are octopii with better hand discipline than him.

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

Where is this coming from? Why do fans keep saying this?

All the additions the Bills made to the defensive coaching staff since the season ended indicate a move to man coverage. 

[billsfan_34]

38 minutes ago, That's No Moon said:

They should have cut bait last year, instead we rolled into the AFCCG with him as the primary backup. There are octopii with better hand discipline than him.

Now that was funny! At least we know why he rarely sniffed the field. Elam may go down as Beanes biggest miss. 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, That's No Moon said:

Can we stop having slow, zone only corners? Please? Can we demonstrate that we have learned at least one thing from our consistent failure to the same team??

 

He's not being signed to be anything more than a possible backup and to at least give some breathing room to not force need in the draft. We're still drafting two CBS regardless imo.