A thread to chronicle your loss of “democracy” under Trump

[Niagara Bill]

On 2/20/2025 at 6:25 PM, stevestojan said:

Ahhhh, there’s the whataboutism! Biden was a train wreck. See? I can speak negatively of my party’s candidate and the sky didn’t fall. He was awful. One of the worst presidents in history. Trumpers would never dare say “well that was whacky ***** he just said.” Weird. 
 

I love how you dolts never seem embarrassed by the orange tub’s actions when they are clearly humiliating. “bUT wHaT aBOuT biDEn?”  😂

He was awful. Trump is awful. Not mutually exclusive. 
 

 

Trump is the like a serial wife beater. He treats his party, his staff, his citizens like a sociopath would treat his batter wife, batters one day, buys pearls the next. 

How long before Republicans stop saying, yeah but Biden was...yeah but Harris, yeah but migrants, yeah but Obama care, yeah but Hilary, yeah but the media, 

What ever the time frame is, and he has been in charge longer than anyone since 2016, it likely will be too late. 

How about counting the top military people/generals he dismisses...that will be a real sign. Oh yeah. That has started because of that darn equality nonsense. Needed to be fixed. Wonder what Colin Powell would gave to say about that. 

He needs full control of the military to begin the conflict that will lead to the end of democracy in US. Maybe that is ok for the majority, who knows.

How about counting the number of ex presidents who speak out.

But the idea of a public score card is a good idea.

[JDHillFan]

9 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

He needs full control of the military to begin the conflict that will lead to the end of democracy in US.

Lol. Why go out of your way to make yourself look like a buffoon? Truly idiotic. 

[IrishLass]

13 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Trump is the like a serial wife beater. He treats his party, his staff, his citizens like a sociopath would treat his batter wife, batters one day, buys pearls the next. 

How long before Republicans stop saying, yeah but Biden was...yeah but Harris, yeah but migrants, yeah but Obama care, yeah but Hilary, yeah but the media, 

 

A Canadian with an opinion on Obamacare and Hillary. How does this relate to you? You're STILL thinking about 'Obamacare' and 'Hillary?' A presidential candidate from 9 years ago?

 

Anyway, thanks for confirming your mindset is one of victim status. You sure do give off 'victim of a wife beater vibes.'

 

[4th&long]

‘Trump Recruited as Moscow Asset,’ Says Ex-KGB Spy Chief

 

https://flip.it/BaCtD8

[Niagara Bill]

7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Lol. Why go out of your way to make yourself look like a buffoon? Truly idiotic. 

Why do you close your eyes to the possibility. 

He owns congress, the judicial systems, he is allowed to sign orders to do what he wants without the house of the people, he hugs dictators, kicks his allies, blames politicians from before, threatens allies, calls people dictators who are not, throws Ukraine under the bus, cuts your internal police forces, pardons militia, punishes everyone who spoke out against him, has turned on media because they disagree so only his message is seen or hears. 

I just hope it us mit too late. 

What would you do if 2026 elections don't happen? 

10 minutes ago, IrishLass said:

 

A Canadian with an opinion on Obamacare and Hillary. How does this relate to you? You're STILL thinking about 'Obamacare' and 'Hillary?' A presidential candidate from 9 years ago?

 

Anyway, thanks for confirming your mindset is one of victim status. You sure do give off 'victim of a wife beater vibes.'

 

I have no opinion that is positive about either Obama or Hilary. Obama was a fool, Hilary was over her head and Obamacare I don't understand.

But when will Trump stop using them as an excuse, and when will you stop listening to that kind of rediculous argument. 

[JDHillFan]

3 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Why do you close your eyes to the possibility. 

He owns congress, the judicial systems, he is allowed to sign orders to do what he wants without the house of the people, he hugs dictators, kicks his allies, blames politicians from before, threatens allies, calls people dictators who are not, throws Ukraine under the bus, cuts your internal police forces, pardons militia, punishes everyone who spoke out against him, has turned on media because they disagree so only his message is seen or hears. 

I just hope it us mit too late. 

What would you do if 2026 elections don't happen? 

To the first - because it’s not a possibility. It’s an impossibility. 
 

To the second - aside from the time it’s taking to type this response I won’t ponder the idiocy of your question for even a second. Come back in November 2026 and admit that you have been hysterical in your overreaction. Embarrassing. 

[Niagara Bill]

29 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

To the first - because it’s not a possibility. It’s an impossibility. 
 

To the second - aside from the time it’s taking to type this response I won’t ponder the idiocy of your question for even a second. Come back in November 2026 and admit that you have been hysterical in your overreaction. Embarrassing. 

I hope that I am wrong, but I fear not. The new world order is coming. Who could ever have forseen, that the greatest threat to  world peace would emerge from the world's greatest democracy.

See you in Sept 26. By that time will shall be anke to see it.

I am not being glib about this, but outside your country, we see things differently.

[aristocrat]

7 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

I hope that I am wrong, but I fear not. The new world order is coming. Who could ever have forseen, that the greatest threat to  world peace would emerge from the world's greatest democracy.

See you in Sept 26. By that time will shall be anke to see it.

I am not being glib about this, but outside your country, we see things differently.

 

[stevestojan]

2 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

Lol. Why go out of your way to make yourself look like a buffoon? Truly idiotic. 

Just an observation, but it seems you literally only reply with insults and never address or reply to the points in a topic. Isn’t part of the point of this board to have discussion? I’m sure youll reply here with another insult, or say the original point was so stupid it didn’t deserve a reply. How about some political conversation? No? Too much for you? 

[Niagara Bill]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

 

Don't point to the past and the other guy for what is happening today and tomorrow.

You took your victory lap, you got the trophy, now your hero qb is about to destroy your team.

11 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Just an observation, but it seems you literally only reply with insults and never address or reply to the points in a topic. Isn’t part of the point of this board to have discussion? I’m sure youll reply here with another insult, or say the original point was so stupid it didn’t deserve a reply. How about some political conversation? No? Too much for you? 

Actually, they follow the leader who laughs and insults everyone except Putin the dictator and Kim from NK...

[aristocrat]

9 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Don't point to the past and the other guy for what is happening today and tomorrow.

You took your victory lap, you got the trophy, now your hero qb is about to destroy your team.

Actually, they follow the leader who laughs and insults everyone except Putin the dictator and Kim from NK...

If we don’t learn from the past how do we change for the better? Things couldn’t keep going the way they were going. Just relax it’ll be ok

[Joe Ferguson forever]

He's going to cost me at least $2600year from tariffs.  That's a ski trip with my club.

 

An analysis by the Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan research group, shows that the top 1 percent would save more than $70,000, about 3 percent of after-tax income, and the median household would get only about $1,000, about 1 percent of after-tax income. (from trumps 1st term tax cuts - to be continued)

While the poor get few of the rewards from those tax cuts, they bear more of the burden from tariffs, which are a tax on imported goods. The poor spend a larger share of their income than the rich do on things they want or need, including on imported goods, rather than saving or investing it, so tariffs operate as a sharply regressive tax.

It is a mistake to imagine that the imports subject to tariffs are luxury goods like fine wines and sports cars; the tariffs threatened so far would fall instead on everyday household goods made in China, Canada and Mexico, along with steel and aluminum, which are used in a vast array of things Americans buy. It’s not yet clear what the final level of tariffs will be, but the highest levels Mr. Trump proposed during the campaign — a 20 percent across-the-board tariff, combined with a 60 percent tariff on China — would cost a typical American household in the middle of the income distribution more than $2,600 a year.

Source:  NYT

[JDHillFan]

15 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Just an observation, but it seems you literally only reply with insults and never address or reply to the points in a topic. Isn’t part of the point of this board to have discussion? I’m sure youll reply here with another insult, or say the original point was so stupid it didn’t deserve a reply. How about some political conversation? No? Too much for you? 

Good observation. I just went back and read your two prior posts in this thread. Is that what you consider discussion? Do you believe that you normally show up with a reasonable opinion or are you a bit of a flamethrower in your own right? The only decent point you made is that both Biden and Trump suck. I have made the same point numerous times. That doesn’t stop (insult incoming) the dimwitted lefties here from labeling me one of the bad MAGA people. 
 

When I read a post about the end of democracy, fascists, nazis, people that care about the border being racists, Biden being mentally fit and a foreign policy genius, or anything similar, I chime in. There is no discussion to be had with idiocy at that level. 

[dgrochester55]

On 2/21/2025 at 7:30 AM, 4th&long said:

They won't get it. Trump won't make it through this term. 

 

With the extremism saturating the left, the presence of politicians who care about nothing else besides taking him down and the fact that there was already two assassination attempts, I am afraid that you could possibly be right.  Democrats and media have proven for almost ten years know that they will play as dirty as required and stoop to any level necessary to go back to establishment based status-quo.

 

Edited 11 hours ago by dgrochester55

[stevestojan]

26 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Good observation. I just went back and read your two prior posts in this thread. Is that what you consider discussion? Do you believe that you normally show up with a reasonable opinion or are you a bit of a flamethrower in your own right? The only decent point you made is that both Biden and Trump suck. I have made the same point numerous times. That doesn’t stop (insult incoming) the dimwitted lefties here from labeling me one of the bad MAGA people. 
 

When I read a post about the end of democracy, fascists, nazis, people that care about the border being racists, Biden being mentally fit and a foreign policy genius, or anything similar, I chime in. There is no discussion to be had with idiocy at that level. 

Honestly, that’s a fair, level-headed response and I agree with all of it (including that I can do better in this area to try to make PPP great again 🙂). 
 

Cheers. 🍻

[4th&long]

19 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

With the extremism saturating the left, the presence of politicians who care about nothing else besides taking him down and the fact that there was already two assassination attempts, I am afraid that you could possibly be right.  Democrats and media have proven for almost ten years know that they will play as dirty as required and stoop to any level necessary to go back to establishment based status-quo.

 

Don't blame the left.  There is a reason people don't like him and they are not just on the left. And stop with the establishment based status quo stuff. He got elected didn't he? No one likes govt waste. He's actually trying to get something done but he is going to ***** it all up as always because that is all he knows how to do. 

[Niagara Bill]

1 hour ago, aristocrat said:

If we don’t learn from the past how do we change for the better? Things couldn’t keep going the way they were going. Just relax it’ll be ok

You are correct...but

How is it that many citizens suddenly believe that a group of billionaires are suddenly working tirelessly for the benefit of the working class of America. 

[sherpa]

22 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are correct...but

How is it that many citizens suddenly believe that a group of billionaires are suddenly working tirelessly for the benefit of the working class of America. 

 

Because that's how people act when they have enough.

Other things become more important, like solving obvious problems and doing a greater service.

Some people are like that, and we seem to have a few, thankfully.

[nedboy7]

On 2/20/2025 at 4:25 PM, stevestojan said:

Ahhhh, there’s the whataboutism! Biden was a train wreck. See? I can speak negatively of my party’s candidate and the sky didn’t fall. He was awful. One of the worst presidents in history. Trumpers would never dare say “well that was whacky ***** he just said.” Weird. 
 

I love how you dolts never seem embarrassed by the orange tub’s actions when they are clearly humiliating. “bUT wHaT aBOuT biDEn?”  😂

He was awful. Trump is awful. Not mutually exclusive. 
 

 

He could literally ***** down their throats and they would love it.  You’re witnessing what’s called brainwashing.  Very dangerous place we’re in.  I thought Biden was a clown. But he wasn’t a dictator.  

[Albwan]

58 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

You are correct...but

How is it that many citizens suddenly believe that a group of billionaires are suddenly working tirelessly for the benefit of the working class of America. 

yea because biden kamala and the democrats did so much for the working class.

lol @ you, simp.