If Josh did not want to extend his contract and potentially leave, would you blame him?

[FireChans]

34 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

You can keep spewing this BS and I'm going to keep challenging it.  You're a blame Josh too kind of guy and I find it preposterous.  Then you blame Beane.  Yet McD gets this weird pass from you.

 

Josh didn't lose the KC game as much as Hurts didn't win the KC game.  Coaching matters and ours fall short.  That Eagles game plan was the reason.  Josh is our reason and McD's playoff woes fall short.

I think McD and Beane have run their course, and I can admit if you told me I could get Josh with the ball in his hands down 3 with 3 minutes left, I would take it every time, regardless of coach or even talent around him.

 

Thats not being unfair

[JGMcD2]

It would be quite the shocking departure from who Josh Allen is. I mean, he’s been the same guy for what seems to be his entire life. 
 

A particular point of pride is that Allen attended public school here, and not private school, like many of the well-to-do kids in the area do. That cemented an undying loyalty in the town, according to Terry Anderson, who was the principal of Firebaugh High School when Josh and his three siblings attended. 
 

 

That play stuck in Allen's craw. It was just one of the reasons he decided to return to Laramie for his junior season despite the experts pegging him as a sure-fire early selection in the upcoming NFL Draft.

There were other factors, too.

Admittedly, maybe he wasn't ready to lead a locker room full of men. Loyalty was a main component. Craig Bohl was the lone Division-I coach to take a chance on Allen out of Reedley Community College. By now you've heard the story about Allen sending emails to more than 1,000 college coaches.

Only one answered and offered.

"I felt I owed him the respect," Allen said of Bohl.

 

The same guy that stood up on stage to thank  Terry, Kim, Brandon, Sean and the Buffalo Bills organization for taking a chance on drafting him. 
 

If he goes somewhere else, who he is has always been a lie. So it begs the question, do you think Josh Allen is a liar? 

[Mikie2times]

38 minutes ago, White Linen said:

 

You can keep spewing this BS and I'm going to keep challenging it.  You're a blame Josh too kind of guy and I find it preposterous.  Then you blame Beane.  Yet McD gets this weird pass from you.

 

Josh didn't lose the KC game as much as Hurts didn't win the KC game.  Coaching matters and ours fall short.  That Eagles game plan was the reason.  Josh is our reason and McD's playoff woes fall short.

Not sure how else he needs to phrase it. Regardless of any other variable, offense had the ball last with a chance to win. We didn't score a TD on either drive. Despite a ton of other reasons we fail in these moments we also failed in this spot. Just because none of it happens without Josh, if the measure is the Super Bowl, then he has to have some responsibility in those results. I'm sure he feels that way probably more than he feels he is being left out to dry. 

Edited yesterday at 12:01 AM by Mikie2times

[Virgil]

13 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Virg, he’s not going anywhere.  Don’t let your imagination get the best if you.  You’re one if the best posters on this board, and you know I think the world of you.

I’m not saying he is going anywhere nor implying I think he will.  
 

It’s just an offseason hypothetical.  Nothing more. 

[JerseyBills]

This would never happen,  Josh is as genuine of an athlete as it comes and loves it here, the Go Bills, always talking about bringing a SB here , rare breed

[Kelly to Allen]

If you avg 30 PPG 3x in arrowhead and lose all 3 playoff games you have systemic issues on defense in personnel and coaching. 

 

The only playoff game I can remember where Allen played bad was vs Cincinnati. And that's when his elbow was hurt. Plus the second half of his first playoff game.

 

Allen is number 1 all time in tds pg and yards pg in NFL playoff history.... Even Nick the troll wright has said Allen is the second best playoff qb right now.

 

They need to overhaul the dline and cbs along with looking at a possible philosophical change on defense. 

 

This has nothing to do with kc and everything to do with the bills defense. Why? Because too much data is in with other teams playing much better defense against kc in wins and losses. 

 

I have lost a lot of faith in this regime to fix it, usually in the history of sports, they would've figured it out by now. 

 

The super bowl demoralized me because of the contrast in defense and then ppl in bills media saying " it's not realistic for the bills to have a dline like that".... Seriously???

 

It's very frustrating and I've tried to not be bitter about everything. But it's a complete joke and embarrassing that we haven't been to a super bowl with this QB. Anyone saying anything else is just a cope.

 

Beane better build a great defense or I think it's time to move on. McDermott and Beane aren't entitled to infinite Elam and basham drafts while much lesser QBs get the glory of multiple rings because their front office can actually build a frickin pass rush and cover ppl

 

If you asked me in 20 where we would be in 25, I would have guessed 2 titles. It's been a catastrophic failure no matter how ppl want to spin it.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:28 AM by Kelly to Allen

[bobobonators]

Wouldn’t the 49ers make more sense? Shanahan ain’t no slouch either. 

[Ya Digg?]

2 hours ago, Homey D. Clown said:

not in the least.  it'll be his best chance for a championship.

How? I asked it earlier and I will ask it again-who is running a better organization than Buffalo right now that he could conceivably go to? 
 

Don’t make the blanket statement without the answer 

[NeverOutNick]

If Josh did not want to extend his contract and potentially leave, would you blame him?

 

no. He’s the only reason we’re consistently a playoff team. Our HC and GM has failed him during the playoffs and in offseason contracts going to defensive duds who never make a difference when it matters. Ownership has needed to make a move since the 13 second fiasco but is happy to be a perennial division winner and be KCs punching bag when we’re outmatched mentally every year in the playoffs. I love Josh and know he’s the best player in the NFL but it’s not his job to tell management to make a change. I wouldn’t be surprised or mad if he left the bills but I sure hope he doesn’t because the day he does I will no longer care about watching this ref inspired crap show we call NFL football anymore. Go bills. Please don’t leave Josh. You’re our only hope 

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, bobobonators said:

Wouldn’t the 49ers make more sense? Shanahan ain’t no slouch either. 

Buffalo is the only place that makes sense 

 

This thread makes me vomit

[Tulsabillsfanz]

This has to be one of most defeatist threads I’ve seen.  Why are we looking to come up with new problems that don’t even exist.

 

 I mean what happens if a world war starts this off season and our best players are drafted?  What happens if the war lasts 6 years and Josh’s best years are lost.   I’m sure everyone can up with one. 
 

There’s always enough real problems to worry about. We don’t need Buffalo fans dreaming up more!  

Edited yesterday at 02:27 AM by Tulsabillsfanz

[JohnNord]

8 hours ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

LOL possibly one of the silliest topics ever started.   You say you don’t think it will happen - then why even start this thread.  
 

For Josh to decline and extension and leave would make him look like a complete hypocrite, based on what he’s said about Buffalo.   He’s staying.  Case closed.  Silly topic.  

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

This has to be one of most defeatist threads I’ve seen.  Why are we looking to come up with new problems that don’t even exist.

 

 I mean what happens if a world war starts this off season and our best players are drafted?  What happens if the war lasts 6 years and Josh’s best years are lost.   I’m sure everyone can up with one. 
 

There’s always enough real problems to worry about. We don’t need Buffalo fans dreaming up more!  

Because it shows how pathetic some bills fans are

 

And I'm not calling out the original poster or anyone in particular but it shows the defeatist and self-loathing attitude some have 

 

They literally don't think we should have good things

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

This would never happen,  Josh is as genuine of an athlete as it comes and loves it here, the Go Bills, always talking about bringing a SB here , rare breed

That’s why this topic is insanely ridiculous and futile.  What’s next?

 

”If Bruce Smith were to leave Buffalo in 1991, could you blame him?”  Get out of heeeeere!

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Because it shows how pathetic some bills fans are

 

And I'm not calling out the original poster or anyone in particular but it shows the defeatist and self-loathing attitude some have 

 

They literally don't think we should have good things

It’s also projecting the fan viewpoint onto the best player on the team.  Since some fans believe McDermott is the problem, they automatically assume Josh feels the same way - when in reality there’s never been any evidence to suggest otherwise.  
 

It’s foolish to even indulge in this goofy topic.  

[Nelius]

His wife loves Buffalo. They both love Buffalo. This constantly generalized “movie star” thing always ignores these very important points. What is also with the assumption that “movie stars” must live in LA like it’s 1978? They’re also fully aware that LA sucks. Rural agricultural Cali is also not LA whatsoever, there’s no ingrained love 

[Virgil]

9 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

LOL possibly one of the silliest topics ever started.   You say you don’t think it will happen - then why even start this thread.  
 

For Josh to decline and extension and leave would make him look like a complete hypocrite, based on what he’s said about Buffalo.   He’s staying.  Case closed.  Silly topic.  

You realize this is a fan forum right?  The majority of what we speculate or talk about never comes to fruition.  
 

Just some conjecture 

[Kelly to Allen]

10 minutes ago, JohnNord said:

That’s why this topic is insanely ridiculous and futile.  What’s next?

 

”If Bruce Smith were to leave Buffalo in 1991, could you blame him?”  Get out of heeeeere!

It’s also projecting the fan viewpoint onto the best player on the team.  Since some fans believe McDermott is the problem, they automatically assume Josh feels the same way - when in reality there’s never been any evidence to suggest otherwise.  
 

It’s foolish to even indulge in this goofy topic.  

 

I don't think McDermott is a " problem" in the context of just being a good coach and leader. Him and Beane are 100% a problem in the context of winning a championship 

 

The problem is his defense and beanes picks are indefensible and utterly embarrassed in the playoffs. In many respects it literally can't be worse on defense. So maybe there's nowhere to go but up. 

 

But ppl are rightfully pissed off. And it's tiresome. There is such a thing as someone being somewhere too long and failure after failure creating the urge to change leadership. 

 

Nobody here wants to think we're going to be remembered for 13 seconds and silly failures like the Warren Moon oilers. 

 

It's just gaslighting the fans when ppl act like we should be happy with that. 

 

I'm going to keep repeating it, it's a complete joke and embarrassing that we haven't been to at least one super bowl with this QB 

 

Elway who I and many compare Allen with went to 5 super bowls. We should have the same expectations with any regime that has Allen 

Edited yesterday at 02:44 AM by Kelly to Allen

[bobobonators]

37 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Buffalo is the only place that makes sense 

 

This thread makes me vomit

I completely agree. I was kinda playing along to the ridiculousness of the thread. Why the Rams? Bc his fiance is in Hollywood? Allen isn’t from LA. 

He grew up a 49ers fan. Shut it down. 

[Buffalo716]

7 minutes ago, Virgil said:

You realize this is a fan forum right?  The majority of what we speculate or talk about never comes to fruition.  
 

Just some conjecture 

Eh I actually slightly agree that this thread doesn't need to exist Virgil 

 

There's a segment of Bills fans who are self-loathing and masochists and don't think we should have good things.. that's why they call in to wgr and say things like this 

 

And they do believe it.. they believe that we don't deserve anything good and anything good we have is bound to leave us 

 

But it's all bull.. there is zero basis for this thread it's not rooted in any truth or factual statement... It's pulling at the heart strings of Bills fans who already are emotionally damaged

Edited yesterday at 02:48 AM by Buffalo716

[DapperCam]

I wouldn’t really blame any player that wanted to switch teams as long as they didn’t screw us on the way out (tank their trade value, sit out, air grievances to the press, kill us with a huge dead cap hit, etc).

 

It’s his life, and he can pretty much do as he pleases within the confines of his contract IMO. I do think if the Bills were in the NFC we’d have been in 1 or 2 SBs in the past 6 seasons.