If Josh did not want to extend his contract and potentially leave, would you blame him?

[Pete]

why are you putting this out in the universe Mr Negative?

[Jimmy Harris 69]

Well fu$k ya I’d blame him. But if it came down to a battle of wills, I expect management to get the most amount of assets for him. At some point it becomes useless to resist if a star wants out and goes public. It’s over. Get everything you can for the good of the team. 

Edited Thursday at 09:24 PM by Jimmy Harris 69

[billsfan714]

I laugh my butt off at people thinking this is some improbability.   Remember all the cups Hasek won in Buffalo, yeah me neither.   After a while it isnt going to be about the money but about winning a SB.

Edited Thursday at 09:26 PM by billsfan714

[Virgil]

15 minutes ago, eball said:

Sorry @Virgil -- you seem like a good dude but I couldn't disagree more.  I guess we won't know until it all plays out, but I believe it's very important to Josh that he play his entire career in Buffalo as long as they are clearly trying to win.

 

I mean, we just watched a guy who won the MVP finish his speech with "Go Bills."

 

Josh and Hailee appear to be making it work just fine, and she has said she enjoys spending time on both the east and west coast.  We're talking about another 10-12 years at most.

 

I don't think we're going to need to worry about Josh wanting to leave.

 

It’s really just a hypothetical.  Nothing serious.  Like I said, just an offseason post

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

I laugh my butt off at people thinking this is some improbability.   Remember all the cups Hasek won in Buffalo, yeah me neither.   After a while it isnt going to be about the money but about winning a SB.

That’s not even why he left. Sabres ownership didn’t spend.

 

I wouldn’t even know what the comparable might be. LeBron James going to Miami? 

Edited Thursday at 09:31 PM by Buffalo_Stampede

[folz]

Josh literally did an interview about a month ago (I'm not going to search for it) where he said the main goals for his career are to bring a Super Bowl to Buffalo and to retire as a Buffalo Bill. Obviously, people can change their mind...but I think leaving the team is the furthest thought from his mind right now. And I highly doubt that Josh sees their playoff failures the same way that some fans do (i.e. it's all due to our crappy head coach and his horrible defense---a defense that has actually been statistically the best defense in the NFL over the last 5-6 years---I know, I know...playoffs). But, I bet Josh blames himself (and maybe the refs, though that isn't really Josh-like either) as much as he does the coaches or other players.

 

Gonna be a long offseason.

[billsfan714]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

That’s not even why he left. Sabres ownership didn’t spend.

From Google:

 

Negotiation details

The Sabres were willing to keep Hasek for any price for the rest of his career. 

Hasek wanted a fresh start with another team and a chance to win a Stanley Cup. 

The Red Wings agreed to pay Hasek $8 million for the next season, with two option years at $8 million each. 

The Sabres traded Hasek to Detroit for forward Slava Kozlov and a 2002 first-round pick. 

[appoo]

Rage On

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

From Google:

 

Negotiation details

The Sabres were willing to keep Hasek for any price for the rest of his career. 

Hasek wanted a fresh start with another team and a chance to win a Stanley Cup. 

The Red Wings agreed to pay Hasek $8 million for the next season, with two option years at $8 million each. 

The Sabres traded Hasek to Detroit for forward Slava Kozlov and a 2002 first-round pick. 

Yes because the Sabres wouldn’t spend! They wouldn’t even pay their captain.

Edited Thursday at 09:43 PM by Buffalo_Stampede

[Peace Frog]

3 hours ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

 

Which Josh are we talking about here?

[shane nelson]

The best players bring championships to the teams that draft and develop them and not someone else's team.  I can never see Josh leaving Buffalo without a ring.  To classy and engage to the community.  

[BillsVet]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

You can trade down for Coleman because they probably had good intel that no one would take him before 33. 

 

Stretch Armstrong couldn't reach that far if he tried. 

[billsfan714]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Yes because the Sabres wouldn’t spend! They wouldn’t even pay their captain.

I think you need to read the first sentence from google again under negotiation details.

[Chaos]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

Since Allen is the Best QB in the NFL, the Bills would likely use the franchise tag twice if need be.   But if Allen explained that he wanted a coaching change, or being let go to free agency, and the team did not want to make a coaching change, I would Josh become a free agent, he has earned that.  And I would be extremely sad. ☹️

[Buffalo_Stampede]

7 minutes ago, billsfan714 said:

I think you need to read the first sentence from google again under negotiation details.

I don’t need to read anything. I lived through it. 

[Donuts and Doritos]

[billsfan714]

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Since Allen is the Best QB in the NFL, the Bills would likely use the franchise tag twice if need be.   But if Allen explained that he wanted a coaching change, or being let go to free agency, and the team did not want to make a coaching change, I would Josh become a free agent, he has earned that.  And I would be extremely sad. ☹️

If it ever comes to that, I would wish Sean well in his next opportunity.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

18 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

 

Stretch Armstrong couldn't reach that far if he tried. 

You think Keon Coleman was lying about the text he received from Allen before the draft?

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

You think Keon Coleman was lying about the text he received from Allen before the draft?

 

Wait, what exactly is this text we are talking about? 

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

 

I don't think the NFLPA would allow it.  They did not like when Brady did it either, but Brady didn't care.  

Nto the illegal investing in his business part lol. Taking a lesser contract in return for money being spent on other players