If Josh did not want to extend his contract and potentially leave, would you blame him?

[Sweats]

If he leaves Buffalo to go play for someone else, he is dead to me.........dead, i say.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Not at all. 

 

When you follow Buffalo sports this has been the inevitability many times. 

 

Stars leave to try and win elsewhere (Sabres recently). 

 

I don't blame Josh if say he gets to the end of his current deal, he's 32-years old, at that point he's paid by the franchise 11-seasons (2018-2028) and says I have to try something else. 

 

After this season he's already given the franchise his entire 20's. 

 

2025, 2026, 2027, 2028 - That is a long time if McDermott and Beane can't win a Super Bowl. 

 

 

We have a winner. Comparing the worst team in the NHL to the Bills. This is exactly what I’m talking about. 

[FireChans]

45 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Where did this notion that we don't want to sign good players come from? FYI, we have a lot of dead cap to clear from the Diggs trade. Remember Stefon Diggs? The WR we traded so Josh would have a #1 target? Yeah, how about that. Maybe we do care.

Exactly. We also drafted CJ Spiller too!

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Nope. Josh watched film on WR’s and came away wanting Keon Coleman. 

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-gm-brandon-beane-josh-allen-pretty-pumped-we-drafted-wr-keon-coleman

 

The level of input that Allen had looks appropriate to me. 

 

Clearly Beane, and the rest of the NFL, judged Worthy/Pearsall/Legette/Coleman/McConkey/Polk to be about the same talent level. Those 6 WRs were all picked between 28th and 37th overall. 

 

We even traded down two different times before selecting Coleman. 

 

 

[wppete]

There is absolutely no way he would ever wont to leave, he is Buffalo. And the Bills would be very happy to pay whatever he asks for…. We got the best QB in the NFL and the perfect person for Buffalo. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We have a winner. Comparing the worst team in the NHL to the Bills. This is exactly what I’m talking about. 

Ok, you'd have a problem with Allen if four years from now he's still playing at his current level, and the Bills still haven't won a Super Bowl?

 

He's 32 at this point, played out his contract, and for his age 33 season he wants be a Free Agent and try it with another organization? 

 

I don't have a problem with that. 

 

Forcing your way out now? Yes I agree it's too early and damaging. 

 

This is professional sports, you have one career, and the United States measures your greatness with titles. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

https://www.nfl.com/news/bills-gm-brandon-beane-josh-allen-pretty-pumped-we-drafted-wr-keon-coleman

 

The level of input that Allen had looks appropriate to me. 

 

Clearly Beane, and the rest of the NFL, judged Worthy/Pearsall/Legette/Coleman/McConkey/Polk to be about the same talent level. Those 6 WRs were all picked between 28th and 37th overall. 

 

We even traded down two different times before selecting Coleman. 

 

 

Josh was talking about Keon Coleman way before that. Made me nervous. Loved his basketball background. Then we get to Keon on the Bills and we have Josh throwing up jump balls to Keon all the time.

 

 

[Devilmann]

The good old offseason blues. Why do some of you guys worry about so much stuff that you can’t control. If he leaves or if he stays it is what it is. There’s nothing I can do to change that. Would it suck if he leaves? Sure it would but on to the next and hope for the best. Just enjoy what you have while it’s here and live in the moments. For me it’s not a matter of blame or no blame but it’s thanks for what you’ve given the team and the city. I can’t hate a guy who’s doing something that what he thinks is best for him and his family. 

[Ga boy]

40 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I disagree. If for instance his wife is making his life miserable, this means more than playing football 3,000 milies from home (if there is an option). Should he put his foot down if she makes it an issue and demand a divorce?

And again,, we are talking about six years down the road.

Similar to LeBron, if he wins one in the next 2-3 years, he might wanna take his skills to the left coast.  Hope he wins one or more and retires a Bill at 38.

[Nephilim17]

If he's around a couple more years and doesn't see the receiver room he needs to win with a quality outside guy and some speed, no, I would not blame him. I'd be gutted but I'd understand he has a limited number of years to win and it hasn't happened here — yet — through no (or very, very little) fault of his own.

Edited Thursday at 06:57 PM by Nephilim17

[Aussie Joe]

The Buffalo Bills will be around a long time after Josh Allen leaves ..

[Mark80]

Yep, there is a reason you are one of the few users I have blocked.

[FireChans]

While I find it very comical how indignant fans get regarding this topic, it’s not really out of the realm of possibility.

 

Most elite franchise guys don’t move but some have. I think there’s very good odds Josh is the Bills QB until he retires, but I think Pats fans said the same about Brady for 20 years. And he’s the greatest ever and had done all there was to do.

 

Weird things happen.

 

If Josh decided to walk without winning one here, I would probably hate him for a long time unless we turned around and got a great replacement.

 

 

[FireChans]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

We have a winner. Comparing the worst team in the NHL to the Bills. This is exactly what I’m talking about. 

The Bills were arguably the worst team in football in the not too distant past lol

[Ya Digg?]

So let’s say he did say he wanted to leave? What team would he go to that has a better situation than Buffalo? I’m not convinced there are many out there

[Buffalo_Stampede]

5 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

If he's around a couple more years and doesn't see the receiver room he needs to win with a quality outside guy and some speed, no, I would not blame him. I'd be gutted but I'd understand he has a limited number of years to win and it hasn't happened here — yet — through no (or very, very little) fault of his own.

Josh loves his WR room. Josh is a big boy. 
 

If Josh Allen at age 29, MVP, has zero input on the offense then he is part of the problem.

 

Don’t have to worry though because I know for a fact he has a lot of input. 

[In Summary]

The demands of a family will be a factor.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

 

So I've thought of that happening too, it's not totally out of the question, but do think it would take a lot for it to occur.  He is under contract through 2028, doubtful anything would happen for the next 2 years and very likely the Bills would tag him probably at least twice before coming to the realization that he's not going to resign here and consider a trade.  There's another thread here talking about him only having 5 good years left so that would put him pretty close to the end of that 5 year period anyway so maybe Bills would be ready to take whatever they can get accoring to the other poster. 

 

The one thing I'd question is your comment about an offensive minded coach.  You're making a big assumption that McVey would still be there coaching in LA that he doesn't get fired prior.  For all the complaints about McD, McD has a winning percent of .642 compared to .602 for McVay  Yes McVay is 1-1 in the SB and that seems to give a lifetime contract with it in the NFL, but he's also had a 5-12 record in there.  Seems like everyone here gives a lifetime pass for any coach that wins a SB.  Tomlin, Harbaugh, and McVay are 3 names that come to mind, at least McVay won it within the past 5 years, I'll give him that.  Maybe those fanbases want their coach fired and possibly would be lobbying for the team to hire McD?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The Bills were arguably the worst team in football in the not too distant past lol

What are you talking about? Jack Eichel forcing himself off of a losing team will not be the same as Josh Allen forcing himself off one of the best teams in the NFL.

 

As I said, this thread is more for Joe Burrow and the Bengals. Constantly has a bad OL and defense.

Edited Thursday at 07:08 PM by Buffalo_Stampede

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, HOUSE said:

Xanax 500mg twice per day

Lots of water

Is that for Josh Allen ?