If Josh did not want to extend his contract and potentially leave, would you blame him?

[Virgil]

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Bills fan mentality right here. Yikes.

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

9 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

Hypothetically... no I wouldn't.  He has given everything and the team still can't get to,let alone win,a Superbowl.   Winning is all he cares about.

[uticaclub]

Not at all.

[Gregg]

I think he loves playing for the Bills and this passionate fanbase. His next contract from the Bills will either make him a billionaire or close to it. As far as the west coast goes, he can spend the offseason there as it is a long offseason. I think he is a Bill for life as far as football goes. 

[Virgil]

Just now, Gregg said:

I think he loves playing for the Bills and this passionate fanbase. His next contract from the Bills will either make him a billionaire or close to it. As far as the west coast goes, he can spend the offseason there as it is a long offseason. I think he is a Bill for life as far as football goes. 

 

I agree with you here.  I think he really does love it here and wants to be the man who brings the city it's first trophy. 

 

I was more so thinking if he did decide to try something different, if people would be upset with him for it.

[Bill from NYC]

10 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

Isn't he under contract through 2028? After that the Bills could franchise him for another two years. Please someone correct me if I am wrong but if I have this right, I refuse to worry about what might happen with Josh Allen six years from now.

[oldmanfan]

11 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Forgive the offseason post, but this thought crossed my mind last night, so flame appropriately.  

 

It's hard for me to argue that Josh has been let down by the defense in key games, especially the playoffs.  You could also say that the Bills were outcoached in most of their playoff losses.  Add in being in the same conference as the Ravens, Bengals, Chiefs, and other improving AFC teams, it's not going to get any easier soon.

 

With being from the west coast and being engaged to a movie star, is it crazy to think it might make more sense for him to want to play out his contract and join a team like the Rams?  He would immediately become the NFL king of LA, have an offensive minded coach, and be closer to home.  I think his chances to get a ring would greatly improve, and he'd get to play in a dome where he excels.

 

To be clear, I don't want any of this to happen.  But if it did, I don't think I could really blame him.  Yes, the Bills took a chance on him, but he was still a top 10 pick and has paid the team and city back well beyond that.  I would hate it, but I would still support him. 

He has the Bills mentality.  He knows how much the fans are behind him here, what they did for his grandmother and such.  He’ll be here long term.

 

And as much as we all love Josh, and we all do, it is a fact that in the last two playoff games he had the ball in his hands with a chance to win and didn’t.  Not all his fault of course but the stuff about it just being coaching or defense or anything but Josh is old.  It is on the organization as a whole including Josh and he’s the first one to say that.

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

I think he loves playing for the Bills and this passionate fanbase. His next contract from the Bills will either make him a billionaire or close to it. As far as the west coast goes, he can spend the offseason there as it is a long offseason. I think he is a Bill for life as far as football goes. 

IMHO He needs a sit down with Terry, Beane and McDermott.   Tell them he is willing to Tom Brady his contract going forward IF the money is used to greatly upgrade this team.  That means veterans to help get us over the hump.

 

Will he?  I doubt it.

[PurpLegacy]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Bills fan mentality right here. Yikes.

 

 

He's not wrong. Yes, this organization drafted and gave him his chance, but he has been let down too often. He has never had a defense he can trust as we continue to draft d-lineman that are projects, undersized, or reaches. Outside of Diggs, his receiving options have been bottom third of the league.  It would be devastating to lose Josh but look at it this way. If at your job you are constantly overperforming, top in your field and earning your company tons of profits would you stick around when they cannot or fail to give you what you deserve? 

[SoonerBillsFan]

19 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Isn't he under contract through 2028? After that the Bills could franchise him for another two years. Please someone correct me if I am wrong but if I have this right, I refuse to worry about what might happen with Josh Allen six years from now.

And Josh could sit and blowup our cap. Or he could just retire.

Edited 4 hours ago by SoonerBillsFan

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

Isn't he under contract through 2028? After that the Bills could franchise him for another two years. Please someone correct me if I am wrong but if I have this right, I refuse to worry about what might happen with Josh Allen six years from now.

 

You are correct about his contract and it's not something I'm "worried" about.  Just something that I thought about and was curious to see how people would feel about it.

 

Like I said, a truly offseason bored post.

[T.E.]

The Rams make sense in so many ways, and the end of his current deal will likely align with the retirement of Stafford.

 

You just gotta hope that he desperately wants to be the one guy who brings Buffalo a title. And/or that he would prefer being a huge fish in a small pond over being just another famous guy in LA.

 

I'm also of the opinion - and I can't really articulate why I feel this way - that Allen might retire significantly earlier than expected.

Edited 23 hours ago by T.E.

[Virgil]

1 minute ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

IMHO He needs a sit down with Terry, Beane and McDermott.   Tell them he is willing to Tom Brady his contract going forward IF the money is used to greatly upgrade this team.  That means veterans to help get us over the hump.

 

Will he?  I doubt it.

 

I don't think the NFLPA would allow it.  They did not like when Brady did it either, but Brady didn't care.  

[PromoTheRobot]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Bills fan mentality right here. Yikes.

 

 

 

Maybe we should lose all our teams because we suck so much.

[Gregg]

Just now, SoonerBillsFan said:

IMHO He needs a sit down with Terry, Beane and McDermott.   Tell them he is willing to Tom Brady his contract going forward IF the money is used to greatly upgrade this team.  That means veterans to help get us over the hump.

 

Will he?  I doubt it.

 

No idea on that but he is driven to bring a championship to WNY. Hopefully Beane hits a grand slam this offseason and gets him the help he needs to win a Super Bowl for this organization and fanbase.

[GunnerBill]

Blame him? I am not sure I'd blame anyone. 

 

Do I think it is a quitter's mentality? Yes. If we get to him being 36/37 or something and he is like "hey I wanna go play in California near home" that's one thing. Leaving in the next few seasons because "I want to go somewhere else cos I keep falling just short of a Superbowl" yea, I'd consider that bottling it and quitting. 

 

Also I'd say the last two years the offense has had the ball with a chance to win the playoff game and hasn't got it done. I don't think that is primarily on Josh but as the Quarterback you own some of that.

[strive_for_five_guy]

Would not support it all.  Want Josh to win one for us.  He’d be dead to me.

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

IMHO He needs a sit down with Terry, Beane and McDermott.   Tell them he is willing to Tom Brady his contract going forward IF the money is used to greatly upgrade this team.  That means veterans to help get us over the hump.

 

Will he?  I doubt it.

 

Where did this notion that we don't want to sign good players come from? FYI, we have a lot of dead cap to clear from the Diggs trade. Remember Stefon Diggs? The WR we traded so Josh would have a #1 target? Yeah, how about that. Maybe we do care.

[Bill from NYC]

Just now, Virgil said:

 

You are correct about his contract and it's not something I'm "worried" about.  Just something that I thought about and was curious to see how people would feel about it.

 

Like I said, a truly offseason bored post.

If he gives us six years it's cool with me. His wife might insist on it. He might have kids by then and they may want to raise them close to the families. This means more than how much we like the Bills. 

Hopefully at some point Josh and the Bills won't have to field a team against Taylor Swift.