So How's that Air Travel Feeling These days, Folks?

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

Good luck on your aviation wishes.

I flew against the F-14 tons of times, as a Pacific Fleet Adversary.

The F-18 was multitudes better.

Topgun is a cool move, but I never had any serious problem beating the F-14 in a close in "knife fight."

Ever.

It was designed and employed as a beyond visual range Phoenix missile launcher.

I loved fighting it.

Two turns and you had it.

 

The FAA screwed up allowing visual operations along the final of runway 33 with civilian ops, who are not as good at looking outside.

 

 

I've known plenty of bad-ass pilots in my life, and you know what- every single one of them stuck by their plane, and every single one of them would get destroyed in that plane they defended until the end of time.  I know plenty of A-7 pilots who would beat the ever-lovin-snot out of your F-18.  

Edited Thursday at 01:33 AM by BringMetheHeadofLeonLett

[sherpa]

2 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

You're a ***** dick.  

 

OK.

Not sure where that comes from, but nothing surprises me here.

 

I have flown with the F-14 countless times in carrier airwing strikes, and against it countless times as an adversary.

I am extremely familiar with it, and it's weapons system.

There was nothing I enjoyed more than fighting an F-14, but you believe what you want.

Not my interest or issue.

[sherpa]

13 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

 

I've known plenty of bad-ass pilots in my life, and you know what- every single one of them stuck by their plane, and every single one of them would get destroyed in that plane they defended until the end of time.  I know plenty of A-7 pilots who would beat the ever-lovin-snot out of your F-18.  

 

Really?

I have 2000 hours in the A7E.

Two cruises to Westpac in it.  300+ traps and every conceivable mission.

I love the airplane.

The capability of that airplane never came close to the F-18 in the air to air arena,

I would love to talk to anyone who claims otherwise, but such an individual does not exist. 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

10 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

OK.

Not sure where that comes from, but nothing surprises me here.

 

I have flown with the F-14 countless times in carrier airwing strikes, and against it countless times as an adversary.

I am extremely familiar with it, and it's weapons system.

There was nothing I enjoyed more than fighting an F-14, but you believe what you want.

Not my interest or issue.

Cool man- but you were being a DICK.  I chose to retract what I said.  

4 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Really?

I have 2000 hours in the A7E.

Two cruises to Westpac in it.  300+ traps and every conceivable mission.

I love the airplane.

The capability of that airplane never came close to the F-18 in the air to air arena,

I would love to talk to anyone who claims otherwise, but such an individual does not exist. 

Well trust me, I know him.  

[BillsFanNC]

 

[sherpa]

3 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Cool man- but you were being a DICK.  I chose to retract what I said.  

Well trust me, I know him.  

 

I have no idea what you mean or intend, but having thousands of hours in the A7E, and doing the Topgun Pacific Fleet Adversary thing for a couple of years, as well as fighting against the F-18 hundreds of times, I stand by what I said.

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

1 minute ago, sherpa said:

 

I have no idea what you mean or intend, but having thousands of hours in the A7E, and doing the Topgun Pacific Fleet Adversary thing for a couple of years, as well as fighting against the F-18 hundreds of times, I stand by what I said.

 

Fair enough- the gentleman I'm thinking of in particular is named Rock. 
 

Curious, do you still fly, or is it something that you... did?

[sherpa]

9 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Fair enough- the gentleman I'm thinking of in particular is named Rock. 
 

Curious, do you still fly, or is it something that you... did?

 

I retired as a 777 captain.

Almost everyone who flies tactical airplanes gets out and does the airline thing.

Way more money, time off and no long deployments.

 

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

6 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I retired as a 777 captain.

Almost everyone who flies tactical airplanes gets out and does the airline thing.

Way more money, time off and no long deployments.

 

 

Well if you ever make it out to Oregon and want to fly, I've got a plane worth a spin around some icy volcanoes. I'm thinking we're on some different sides of how we think this country should go forward - I'm ani-felon, but some things are even bigger than that.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

Isn't it weird that we live in an age where we've discovered how to fly, like the birds... and even better, but somehow want to simultaneously drag ourselves back like 700 years?

51 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Hang on, what????  Is BillsFanNorth Carolina starting to get it... impossible.  

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

It ain't like Ive got any agenda on who is going to give me proper instructions on how to return to the ground.

[4th&long]

Some of the 400 jobs that were cut at the FAA helped support air safety, a union says

 

https://flip.it/xt6yDF

[BillsFanNC]

 

[JFKjr]

16 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

At some point you're going to understand what happens under incompetent leadership.   It's only just starting.  

 

Definitely check for DEI hires in the cockpit!

 

 

[Orlando Buffalo]

I fully understand that the copilot was not ready for that landing, it was tricky, but who was the actual pilot? If the actual pilot was new also, I am curious how often that happens that two new pilots are in the cockpit together? I don't understand why the FAA makes it so difficult to get answers because all it does is allow the speculation to take hold. 

13 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Well if you ever make it out to Oregon and want to fly, I've got a plane worth a spin around some icy volcanoes. I'm thinking we're on some different sides of how we think this country should go forward - I'm ani-felon, but some things are even bigger than that.  

I am not a pilot but this does sound awesome. And remember we all love each other here when you are the one offering such great things😀

[sherpa]

28 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

I fully understand that the copilot was not ready for that landing, it was tricky, but who was the actual pilot? If the actual pilot was new also, I am curious how often that happens that two new pilots are in the cockpit together? I don't understand why the FAA makes it so difficult to get answers because all it does is allow the speculation to take hold.

 

I will offer an answer that I am quite confident suggesting.

The reason the FAA, NTSB or the particular company does not offer much until the official accident report comes out is quite simple.

Lawsuits.

In every aviation accident there are tons of lawsuits as ambulance chasing lawyers swarm the victims and families.

Anything said is going to end up repeated in court, not matter how goofy or speculative.

 

Inside the industry, people know the answers almost immediately, with very few exceptions. MH 370 comes to mind, but even that is pretty well known, they just can't find it.

Airlines don't keep records of recurrent training on individuals for that same reason. If there is a problem, they are certain to correct it, but they want no record subject to subpoena.

 

Here's a real life example.

One night I as flying a 757 on the LA to Chicago all nighter. This was two days prior to OJ's flight, but that was coincidence.

We had just leveled off and the FO answers the phone from the flight attendants and tells him there is a first class pass who has just had a heart attack. Sitting next to this guy is a UCLA Medical Center heart guy.

They get the guy on the floor and the MD uses the defib and is working on the guy.

He keeps him alive, but we get another phone call, and the MD says the guy has no chance.

I get from 35000' to touchdown in Phoenix in 16 minutes, and emergency medical people are at the gate and the guy lives.

This MD tells me once we get to Chicago that if this guy was at home, he would have never made it even to the ambulance arriving.

 

Anyway, he sued the airline anyway, didn't win, and then sent a Christmas card to the airline for saving his life, which they forwarded to me.

 

The point is that once an "event" occurs, everyone behaves with the knowledge that lawsuits are inevitable, so nobody talks until the report comes out.

[Doc]

20 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Sure thing!   You're a former Navy pilot... and I'm jealous- please tell me you flew the Tomcat!!, and I'm an aircraft owner and private pilot- I don't want to misrepresent myself.  

But what I see, and this is not a stretch, is a system losing its functionality... or coincidences, but I don't believe that.  
 

We have an administration dead-set on dismantling our known norms- Have you ever seen anything like an Army helicopter colliding with a passenger jet on final, or a passenger het rolling over on a landing they should have 'gone 'round'?

 

You're a pilot and you started this and the FAA thread?  That's embarrassing...

 

16 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

Hang on, what????  Is BillsFanNorth Carolina starting to get it... impossible.  

 

They were turned away because they were white.  And have filed a class action lawsuit.

Edited Thursday at 07:26 PM by Doc