Potential Cap Casualties 2025

[GolfandBills]

I think Grable is going to be the LG next season 

[Big Turk]

11 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Joe Marino made a case to cut Edwards.  Not for his play but just because the pipeline of talent is there with Anderson and grable and it saves money.  

 

The case to weaken your strongest overall position group is never a good one.

 

Overthecap is showing the Bills at a little bit over 10 million over a projected cap of 279.5 million next year.

 

Should be easy work for Beane to free up space for that.

Edited yesterday at 03:51 AM by Big Turk

[GASabresIUFan]

I’ve added a couple of polls.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

Von Miller, Dawson Knox post june 1st and hopefully trade Epenesa for anything, why did we re-sign this guy? 

[MJS]

13 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think he is finished. I wouldn't keep Jones at any money. I don't think he is physically able to contibute anything beyond replacement level play.

Yeah, how do people not see this? He was one of the big disappointments this year. He was bad. Cut him and move on.

[GunnerBill]

6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I'm cutting all 4. Edwards did not play well against the Chiefs. The AJE extension was stupid. And yes Von and DQ are done. We can bring up the young OL depth at guard. 

 

Edwards had a really good year. I am not throwing that away because he had a poor final game. I doubt the Bills will either. He is a big Kromer guy. 

 

I don't hate the idea of cutting AJE. He is what he is and that is a 6 sack a year guy. I wasn't in favour of bringing him back either, although they got him at a reasonable price. But unless you are able to land a vet upgrade it puts you in a bit of a hole. If their answer at edge is a rookie (especially if it is a 2nd or 3rd round rookie) then AJ should stay. 

[GunnerBill]

4 hours ago, LEBills said:

If we trade Elam before 6/1 we save 2.5 mill.

 

Would some team take Elam and a 6th for a 7th rounder?

 

Elam won't be on the team. Whatever way it happens. The chances if him being here in 2025 are less than 10% IMO. 

[Matt_In_NH]

5 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

The case to weaken your strongest overall position group is never a good one.

 

Overthecap is showing the Bills at a little bit over 10 million over a projected cap of 279.5 million next year.

 

Should be easy work for Beane to free up space for that.

How much space do you think he needs to free up?   

[LEBills]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Elam won't be on the team. Whatever way it happens. The chances if him being here in 2025 are less than 10% IMO. 

I agree, but only cap savings comes with a trade. So hopefully they figure that out rather than eating the $4 mill dead cap if they just release him.

[GunnerBill]

11 minutes ago, LEBills said:

I agree, but only cap savings comes with a trade. So hopefully they figure that out rather than eating the $4 mill dead cap if they just release him.

 

Yea. We just need a bottom feeder willing to take on the cap hit for the benefit of gaining a draft pick. 

[Big Turk]

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

How much space do you think he needs to free up?   

 

Maybe 30-40 mil which can easily be done without creating unneeded holes 

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe 30-40 mil which can easily be done without creating unneeded holes 

Agree that creating holesis not a good way to create cap space but it always depends on how much and whatnot.  However we disagree on Edwards, the point is you dont create a hole because you have the competent replacement on the roster already....and changing out Edwards does not blow up the talent on the line, the other 4 starter and first three backups all stay in place.  

[Desert Bills Fan]

Is there $14 million in JA salary that could convert to bonus and save that 14 in cap 2025? Or would 14 be spread over his remaining contract years? Not sure how that works..

[Magox]

5 minutes ago, Desert Bills Fan said:

Is there $14 million in JA salary that could convert to bonus and save that 14 in cap 2025? Or would 14 be spread over his remaining contract years? Not sure how that works..

They could extend him and save $11.7M from the cap.

 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills#google_vignette

[Big Turk]

23 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Agree that creating holesis not a good way to create cap space but it always depends on how much and whatnot.  However we disagree on Edwards, the point is you dont create a hole because you have the competent replacement on the roster already....and changing out Edwards does not blow up the talent on the line, the other 4 starter and first three backups all stay in place.  

 

But he also has continuity on the line with the other 4 players and performed well...you never know how changing pieces out will impact it. Sometimes it doesn't go as well as you think.

[TheBeaneBandit]

On 2/19/2025 at 9:20 PM, GolfandBills said:

I think Grable is going to be the LG next season 

My only thing is he strong enough to play guard. He was also a 25 year old rookie so he may already be as strong as he’s really gonna get. Those 21 and 22 years olds still can grow like weeds lol

[appoo]

On 2/19/2025 at 7:48 PM, Big Turk said:

 

The case to weaken your strongest overall position group is never a good one.

 

Overthecap is showing the Bills at a little bit over 10 million over a projected cap of 279.5 million next year.

 

Should be easy work for Beane to free up space for that.

We’ll have more than enough cap space for a big splash if beane chooses to do so

[GASabresIUFan]

DaQuan Jones is leading the most likely cap casualty after Miller.

 

The savings if we dump Jones is only about 1.65 million.  He also has a dead cap in 2026 of 3.7 regardless if he stays or goes.  

 

Unless Beane and Co think Jones is done as an NFL player, I don't think he'll be cut.  Given his cap in 2026, I also don't think he can reasonably be restructured. 

 

FYI - Reminder that the four largest straight up cap savings are

1 - Miller 8.397

2- Edwards 4.03

3. AJE 3.339

4. Trubisky 2.5 

 

By the way:  This blurb from ESPN has made me re-think keeping Miller at all.  June 1 designation here we come. 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/43903031/2025-nfl-offseason-salary-cap-questions-32-teams-contracts-cuts-trades

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Buffalo Bills

Are the Bills going to cut Von Miller?

That's the outcome that makes the most sense. Miller turns 36 next month and is under contract for three more years, but none of his remaining money is guaranteed. The Bills limited Miller's snap counts during the 2024 season thinking they would be able to use him more in the playoffs, but that didn't turn out to be the case; his snap counts in the playoff games against the Ravens (17) and Chiefs (16) were among his lowest of the season. Miller hasn't been the impact player Buffalo hoped he would be when it signed him, and the Bills would save $8.397 million against this year's salary cap by releasing him.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by GASabresIUFan

[Mat68]

I don't touch the Oline.  It was the strength of the team.  Was the strongest positional group on the team. They have the ability to bring everyone back and same reserves I do it.  
 

This offseason I see 3 areas thats needed.  Size and ability on the dline.  Increased athleticism in the secondary. Wr with vertical ability. Realistically, should find that in the draft.  Look to add the best young talent in through trade or Fa that help those areas.  Buffalo was at the door step of the Superbowl with average weapons and average defense.  No need to erode the strengths to fix the other areas.  
 

With so few UFAs.  They have the ability to add 2 above average starters.  Id look for Edge, Corner, Safety or Wr.  I think interior Dline is too strong a class to pay 8 plus a year for a vet.  Buffalo has 3 picks in the meat of the 25 class.  Outside the top 10 prospects good luck determining  11-60.  Those 3 paired with a few additions Buffalo will be more than formidable. 

[Matt_In_NH]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

But he also has continuity on the line with the other 4 players and performed well...you never know how changing pieces out will impact it. Sometimes it doesn't go as well as you think.

Same argument o fired last year when they released Morse.  I would not say you “never know”.  The coaches know a lot , no such thing as zero risk but they know the other players and have a track record of plugging guys in successfully.