I feel Tee Higgins = Peerless Price.

[ProcessTruster]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep been thinking the same. Keep Cooper and draft an outside guy with some speed in rounds 2 through 5.... and then make a more concerted effort at a long term #1 next year. 

yeah this draft class is not so much a WR class it seems

[HappyDays]

13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep been thinking the same. Keep Cooper and draft an outside guy with some speed in rounds 2 through 5.... and then make a more concerted effort at a long term #1 next year. 

 

Yeah sign Cooper to fill the hole, draft Isaiah Bond (for example) in the 2nd round to get some real speed and upside in the room. Then see how Coleman develops this season and take it from there in 2026... Something like that is probably the best case scenario which is a bit depressing.

[Alphadawg7]

I think Tee Higgins either stays in Cincy or ends up with either the Pats or Commanders.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah sign Cooper to fill the hole, draft Isaiah Bond (for example) in the 2nd round to get some real speed and upside in the room. Then see how Coleman develops this season and take it from there in 2026... Something like that is probably the best case scenario which is a bit depressing.

When he runs a 4.25 I really doubt he’s going to last until the 50’s - 60’s.

[Alphadawg7]

22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep been thinking the same. Keep Cooper and draft an outside guy with some speed in rounds 2 through 5.... and then make a more concerted effort at a long term #1 next year. 

 

3 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Yeah sign Cooper to fill the hole, draft Isaiah Bond (for example) in the 2nd round to get some real speed and upside in the room. Then see how Coleman develops this season and take it from there in 2026... Something like that is probably the best case scenario which is a bit depressing.

 

Personally, I think Hollywood Brown or Darius Slayton could also be the guy they bring in while also maybe drafting a guy.  And honestly, I think I prefer one of them over Cooper as they at least bring more of a downfield threat that this team lacks elsewhere.  

[HappyDays]

12 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

 

Personally, I think Hollywood Brown or Darius Slayton could also be the guy they bring in while also maybe drafting a guy.  And honestly, I think I prefer one of them over Cooper as they at least bring more of a downfield threat that this team lacks elsewhere.  

 

Man I just can't get excited about Slayton at all. PFF ranked him 91/98 WRs with a 59.0 grade. I know PFF isn't the end all be all and I know Slayton was in an awful passing offense, it just feels like a big projection for a WR that will probably get paid a fairly large contract in a weak WR market. I don't like paying a WR off a down year who's never really shown top end talent to begin with. DJ Chark, Gabe Davis, our own Curtis Samuel... Those are the recent comparisons that fit that profile.

 

Hollywood Brown I am open to but you can't rely on him staying healthy. I don't understand the contract projections I'm seeing for him. He had to accept a 1 year $7M deal last offseason presumably because teams wanted him to prove he could stay healthy, and he answered that question by suffering a major injury on the first play of preseason. Now I'm seeing projections of like 2 years $18M? If that's what he gets then I'm out. If he gets what he should which is another low cost 1 year prove it deal then sure I would take a flyer on him.

 

Edited Monday at 11:45 PM by HappyDays

[BADOLBILZ]

34 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Man I just can't get excited about Slayton at all. PFF ranked him 91/98 WRs with a 59.0 grade. I know PFF isn't the end all be all and I know Slayton was in an awful passing offense, it just feels like a big projection for a WR that will probably get paid a fairly large contract in a weak WR market. I don't like paying a WR off a down year who's never really shown top end talent to begin with. DJ Chark, Gabe Davis, our own Curtis Samuel... Those are the recent comparisons that fit that profile.

 

Hollywood Brown I am open to but you can't rely on him staying healthy. I don't understand the contract projections I'm seeing for him. He had to accept a 1 year $7M deal last offseason presumably because teams wanted him to prove he could stay healthy, and he answered that question by suffering a major injury on the first play of preseason. Now I'm seeing projections of like 2 years $18M? If that's what he gets then I'm out. If he gets what he should which is another low cost 1 year prove it deal then sure I would take a flyer on him.

 

 

 

Yeah, it's funny,  Bill Barnwell has an article on ESPN about how impressive the cast of available receivers are this offseason and it kinda' feels like none of them really fit the Bills EXCEPT Hollywood Brown........if he's healthy.    They lack a deep threat and most of the big names on there are like Cooper.  Who is, as Barnwell aptly describes, a 50/50 and back shoulder deep target at this stage of their career.   Really weird having like a dozen guys who have put up 1,000 yard season and the class feels weak because of the Bills specific need.

[Chicken Boo]

3 hours ago, Low Positive said:

My opinions might be colored by the fact that I live in Cincinnati and hate the Bengals more than any other team. 

 

😄 appreciate the honesty.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Yep been thinking the same. Keep Cooper and draft an outside guy with some speed in rounds 2 through 5.... and then make a more concerted effort at a long term #1 next year. 

This makes a lot of sense to me. We had a great offense last year, and given an preseason in the fold he should be better. We have higher priorities defensively and Coop is the way to go.

[DCofNC]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

I've started to wonder if bringing back Cooper is a real possibility. I had totally discounted the idea but a couple weeks ago Jeremy Fowler reported a return to Buffalo is "not off the table" and that the Bills are "intrigued" by the idea of bringing him back. I wouldn't love that as the solution but as you said there are no ideal options. I guess in that scenario you hope the wrist injury is the reason he couldn't perform down the stretch, and that after a full offseason working with Allen and Brady he can take on a bigger role. Spotrac estimates he'll get 2 years $28M. I think I could live with that, maybe with a $5M void year in 2027 to spread out the hit. That at least puts a band-aid on the position so you're not stuck making desperate moves in a weak draft class.

Well this guy projects he gets screwed but the market saturation of older, has been vets, and the performance (or lack thereof) of similar guys from last cycle.  I’m betting his BEST offer is 2 years 22M with 14 guaranteed.

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Man I just can't get excited about Slayton at all. PFF ranked him 91/98 WRs with a 59.0 grade. I know PFF isn't the end all be all and I know Slayton was in an awful passing offense, it just feels like a big projection for a WR that will probably get paid a fairly large contract in a weak WR market. I don't like paying a WR off a down year who's never really shown top end talent to begin with. DJ Chark, Gabe Davis, our own Curtis Samuel... Those are the recent comparisons that fit that profile.

 

Hollywood Brown I am open to but you can't rely on him staying healthy. I don't understand the contract projections I'm seeing for him. He had to accept a 1 year $7M deal last offseason presumably because teams wanted him to prove he could stay healthy, and he answered that question by suffering a major injury on the first play of preseason. Now I'm seeing projections of like 2 years $18M? If that's what he gets then I'm out. If he gets what he should which is another low cost 1 year prove it deal then sure I would take a flyer on him.

 

I hear you on Brown, but don’t be surprised if he does in fact get that kind of money, that’s still a “low risk” signing these days.   He got backed into a corner last year, I’d bet he jumps earlier this year.

[Don Otreply]

10 hours ago, US Egg said:

WR’s are overvalued.

I read that somewhere …

[bearcat]

Rumors now is that Cincinnati will franchise tag Tee again. Got to imagine that if that's the case, he'll be very unhappy 

[njbuff]

I’ve heard the Dolphins might release Hill.

 

Can’t see that happening, but who knows.

[Alphadawg7]

3 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Man I just can't get excited about Slayton at all. PFF ranked him 91/98 WRs with a 59.0 grade. I know PFF isn't the end all be all and I know Slayton was in an awful passing offense, it just feels like a big projection for a WR that will probably get paid a fairly large contract in a weak WR market. I don't like paying a WR off a down year who's never really shown top end talent to begin with. DJ Chark, Gabe Davis, our own Curtis Samuel... Those are the recent comparisons that fit that profile.

 

Hollywood Brown I am open to but you can't rely on him staying healthy. I don't understand the contract projections I'm seeing for him. He had to accept a 1 year $7M deal last offseason presumably because teams wanted him to prove he could stay healthy, and he answered that question by suffering a major injury on the first play of preseason. Now I'm seeing projections of like 2 years $18M? If that's what he gets then I'm out. If he gets what he should which is another low cost 1 year prove it deal then sure I would take a flyer on him.

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I get your reservations fully, which is why I said you still draft one early if you sign either of those guys.  I personally don't put a lot of stock in what PFF says, especially with the situation hes been in compounding that further.  Slayton IMHO is certainly better than PFF is giving him credit for and its why he will have suitors too.  

 

I honestly havent seen what Browns market is estimated to be at, I just know he was cheap last year and did nothing to change that this year given he didn't really play much thanks to the injury.  If you are saying  $18M per year for 2 years then yeah, thats gross and I wouldn't be interested either.  But if you are saying $18M for the 2 years, or $9M a season, I would be fine with that because if healthy he is a better WR than a $9M a year guy and he adds an element to the offense we lack.  

 

None the less, signing either of them (or Cooper) needs to accompany drafting someone early still.  

[Thurman#1]

12 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Both did well with a true stud #1 opposite them.  Once Price went to Atlanta to be a #1, his numbers tanked.  I feel the exact same is going to happen with Higgins. 

 

And don't we want a guy with speed?  4.54 - 4.59 isn't the speed we need. At his best 4.54 isn't a huge difference between Colemans 4.61, and At worse 4.59 is virtually no real difference then 4.61.

 

 

 

 

Don't worry about him, he's not coming here.

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

 

Personally, I think Hollywood Brown or Darius Slayton could also be the guy they bring in while also maybe drafting a guy.  And honestly, I think I prefer one of them over Cooper as they at least bring more of a downfield threat that this team lacks elsewhere.  

 

 

Not really caught up on either guy. Just looking at their production, that's the kind of guy who they could reasonably afford to bring in, it looks like to me.

 

What particularly do you like about each guy, if you don't mind me asking. I don't know either one well at all.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 03:26 AM by Thurman#1

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, njbuff said:

I’ve heard the Dolphins might release Hill.

 

Can’t see that happening, but who knows.

Would be similar to the Diggs situation. They would break even on the cap give or take this year, but they would save like 53 mil or something like that next year on the cap.

Thats got to be tempting to do for an aging, diva receiver

[US Egg]

2 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

I read that somewhere …

No doubt someone stealing my thunder.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

I see Higgins as more of a DeVonta Smith (PHI) , to me they're almost identical twins. Both ran similar 40 times, both have the same similar stats, both are #2 WR. We are basically hoping that Coleman turns into Tee Higgins as a solid #2. Smith got a 3 year 75M contract, 25M per season and that's where Higgins should get but will most likely get a 30-35M deal which is way too high for him.

[BillsFanForever19]

8 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Apparently they now plan to tag him to try and sign him to a long term deal:

 

With Mike Brown involved I'll believe it when I see it. I can't imagine him giving the type of up front money that would be needed to extend both Higgins and Chase. Either way if they tag him that likely makes it impossible for us to acquire him.

 

I'm not surprised. They're once again in really good shape with the cap this year and Burrow's been making noise about wanting them to make sure he sticks around. The Tag seemed inevitable, again.