Mat68 Posted Monday at 05:41 PM Posted Monday at 05:41 PM Tall talented guy. I would be more concerned with his injury history. I think he would be a very good addition to the offense if healthy. Takes over the X with real deep ability. Allows Coleman to move around the formation more. If he goes to a team without an elite Qb I think it will be difficult for him to live up to the contract. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Monday at 06:10 PM Posted Monday at 06:10 PM Imma say something crazy: I'd rather pay Cook than throw that money at Higgins. Pay Cook and draft a WR early over paying Higgins and drafting a RB. Higgins will disappoint at that price tag. Cook has already lived up to the salary. Plus, Cook's $12-14M is less than Higgins' $20+M. JMO. (I look forward to getting the red x from @GunnerBill ) 1 1 Quote
Mango Posted Monday at 06:15 PM Posted Monday at 06:15 PM 3 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Both did well with a true stud #1 opposite them. Once Price went to Atlanta to be a #1, his numbers tanked. I feel the exact same is going to happen with Higgins. And don't we want a guy with speed? 4.54 - 4.59 isn't the speed we need. At his best 4.54 isn't a huge difference between Colemans 4.61, and At worse 4.59 is virtually no real difference then 4.61. Aye, they were just talking about this on NFL radio. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 06:26 PM Posted Monday at 06:26 PM 13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Imma say something crazy: I'd rather pay Cook than throw that money at Higgins. Pay Cook and draft a WR early over paying Higgins and drafting a RB. Higgins will disappoint at that price tag. Cook has already lived up to the salary. Plus, Cook's $12-14M is less than Higgins' $20+M. JMO. (I look forward to getting the red x from @GunnerBill ) Haha. I am not sold on the Bills being all in on Higgins, so no ❌️ from me! I do think he is better than you think he is. But I don't think he is completely what this team lacks. And I don't think we are in a spot in our cycle where we can spend top of the WR market on a player who isn't the ideal fit for what we need. 1 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted Monday at 06:28 PM Posted Monday at 06:28 PM 1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I literally made the same comparison a few days ago in the FA thread. He will never live up to whatever contract he signs IMO I thought the OP was stealing my comparison from months ago. I think it’s spot on and people claiming Higgins is “way better” than Price are living with the ability to know what Price turned into as a 1, not remembering the hype he had when he was a 2 that everyone thought was the next big thing. Higgins is made of glass for one and if he ever even scratches the level of Anquon Boldin, he’d be making a giant leap, I don’t see him making. Maybe I’m wrong, but he’s used to possibly the best pure passer in the league tossing him the ball, in an offense where he’s not the primary focus. His drop off is going to look like Gabe Davis if he doesn’t pick his spot well. 1 Quote
No_Matter_What Posted Monday at 06:32 PM Posted Monday at 06:32 PM 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Haha. I am not sold on the Bills being all in on Higgins, so no ❌️ from me! I do think he is better than you think he is. But I don't think he is completely what this team lacks. And I don't think we are in a spot in our cycle where we can spend top of the WR market on a player who isn't the ideal fit for what we need. Maybe you mentioned this somewhere, but what do you propose at WR? My understanding is that you wouldn't pay Higgins and you don't like this draft class. So would you bring back Hollins, sign some serviceable FA like Brown or Brown and draft someone (preferably) in first two rounds? Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted Monday at 06:34 PM Posted Monday at 06:34 PM While I'm NOT on the Higgins train he's definitely a notch above Price was. Higgins did pretty well in the games Chase missed. Price never could carry the load. 1 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Our offense needs a Diggs type separator, not Tee. I'd rather grab a guy like Slayton, than Tee. Half the money, at least, and would be quite productive in our offense. Use the rest of that $ to lock up talent in the secondary....so many very good to almost elite CBs and Safeties available in FA this year. This could be a great time to either find a deal, or just go after a premier talent like Holland/Murphy Jr combo. Then attack DL early and often in draft. Been banging this drum for week+, this is a franchise-changing type draft at DL if we grab 2-3 early. Could remake our DL for years to come and on the cheap. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 06:56 PM Author Posted Monday at 06:56 PM 27 minutes ago, DCofNC said: I thought the OP was stealing my comparison from months ago. I think it’s spot on and people claiming Higgins is “way better” than Price are living with the ability to know what Price turned into as a 1, not remembering the hype he had when he was a 2 that everyone thought was the next big thing. Higgins is made of glass for one and if he ever even scratches the level of Anquon Boldin, he’d be making a giant leap, I don’t see him making. Maybe I’m wrong, but he’s used to possibly the best pure passer in the league tossing him the ball, in an offense where he’s not the primary focus. His drop off is going to look like Gabe Davis if he doesn’t pick his spot well. Sorry, I didn't see your post a few months back. I was sitting in the minor emergency waiting to run a couple of tests, and it hit me lol. Quote
Charles Romes Posted Monday at 06:57 PM Posted Monday at 06:57 PM If he’s like peerless price, maybe the Bengals GM will lure him back to cincy in a few years with a lucrative contract even where there are no other bidders. Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 06:58 PM Author Posted Monday at 06:58 PM 3 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Our offense needs a Diggs type separator, not Tee. I'd rather grab a guy like Slayton, than Tee. Half the money, at least, and would be quite productive in our offense. Use the rest of that $ to lock up talent in the secondary....so many very good to almost elite CBs and Safeties available in FA this year. This could be a great time to either find a deal, or just go after a premier talent like Holland/Murphy Jr combo. Then attack DL early and often in draft. Been banging this drum for week+, this is a franchise-changing type draft at DL if we grab 2-3 early. Could remake our DL for years to come and on the cheap. I agree, Slayton would be a better fit. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted Monday at 07:04 PM Posted Monday at 07:04 PM Higgins is light years better than any WR the Bills have. 1 Quote
Nephilim17 Posted Monday at 07:06 PM Posted Monday at 07:06 PM I'd prefer Metcalf to open up the vertical game more. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 07:08 PM Posted Monday at 07:08 PM 4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Both did well with a true stud #1 opposite them. Once Price went to Atlanta to be a #1, his numbers tanked. I feel the exact same is going to happen with Higgins. And don't we want a guy with speed? 4.54 - 4.59 isn't the speed we need. At his best 4.54 isn't a huge difference between Colemans 4.61, and At worse 4.59 is virtually no real difference then 4.61. I get why you are making the comparison, but he is better than Price IMHO as he has shown that when he was the WR1 at times due to injuries and still producing at top end WR1 levels. 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted Monday at 07:21 PM Posted Monday at 07:21 PM 25 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Our offense needs a Diggs type separator, not Tee. I'd rather grab a guy like Slayton, than Tee. Half the money, at least, and would be quite productive in our offense. Use the rest of that $ to lock up talent in the secondary....so many very good to almost elite CBs and Safeties available in FA this year. This could be a great time to either find a deal, or just go after a premier talent like Holland/Murphy Jr combo. Then attack DL early and often in draft. Been banging this drum for week+, this is a franchise-changing type draft at DL if we grab 2-3 early. Could remake our DL for years to come and on the cheap. This guy gets it!☝️ Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted Monday at 07:39 PM Posted Monday at 07:39 PM 36 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Our offense needs a Diggs type separator, not Tee. I'd rather grab a guy like Slayton, than Tee. Half the money, at least, and would be quite productive in our offense. Use the rest of that $ to lock up talent in the secondary....so many very good to almost elite CBs and Safeties available in FA this year. This could be a great time to either find a deal, or just go after a premier talent like Holland/Murphy Jr combo. Then attack DL early and often in draft. Been banging this drum for week+, this is a franchise-changing type draft at DL if we grab 2-3 early. Could remake our DL for years to come and on the cheap. Why stop there - guys like Olamide Zaccheaus, Tutu Atwell, Dyami Brown, Josh Palmer, Greg Dortch, Tylan Wallace are all available and would be even cheaper. Quote
Doc Brown Posted Monday at 07:49 PM Posted Monday at 07:49 PM 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yep. I asked this the other day. Who is the last prime age, boundary receiver, as good as Tee Higgins to hit FA? I was honestly struggling for an answer. Maybe Mike Wallace from the Steelers? Possibly Santonio Holmes? Anquan Boldin? (removed Bolden he was traded from AZ to BAL) Maybe Kenny Golladay but that's pry stretching it a bit. Quote
GETTOTHE50 Posted Monday at 07:53 PM Posted Monday at 07:53 PM It doesn’t matter. Patriots will make this guy a top paid wide out. They have no weapons and too much cap space. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted Monday at 07:56 PM Posted Monday at 07:56 PM 2 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: It doesn’t matter. Patriots will make this guy a top paid wide out. They have no weapons and too much cap space. Im perfectly ok with the Pats tying up $25M/year on Higgins as their #1 WR. If that is their big weapon add, we're doing ok. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted Monday at 08:09 PM Posted Monday at 08:09 PM Apparently they now plan to tag him to try and sign him to a long term deal: With Mike Brown involved I'll believe it when I see it. I can't imagine him giving the type of up front money that would be needed to extend both Higgins and Chase. Either way if they tag him that likely makes it impossible for us to acquire him. 1 Quote
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