Let's be honest, Josh probably has 5 good seasons left

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, Steptide said:

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here

Well, you’re 0 for 2 slugger.

[Steptide]

50 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

So in a year where EVERYONE said they would be rebuilding, would be no better than 3rd in their division, would be lucky to make the playoffs…turn that into dominant saying the division, make the AFC championship game, and Josh wins MVP. A year in which they far exceeded expectations…

 

You feel this low about the team??

 

 

No, I feel good about them, but Imo its very obvious the defense is this teams downfall(at least in playoffs) . Allen has proved he can carry the offense even with mediocre talent. My point was, the front office has to change up their philosophy a bit and go "all in" per say. Drafting guys and hoping they develop has not worked. At least not with the guys they've drafted in high rounds. Kinkaid, Oliver, elam, rossou, epenessa.. All these guys have had flashes, but they're not game changers. We need guys who can make an impact and not rely soley on Allen. Von was supposed to be that guy but obviously it didn't pan out 

[Big Turk]

He has way more than 5 years left most likely as long as he takes care of himself 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

Arm strength is the last thing to go. Allen’s arm will make him an effective starter well into his late 30s. 

[tigerthelion]

I don't think it's that far fetched.  Hope he has more like 8 to 10 top years left, but not everyone can be elite in their mid to late thirties.  I agree with the idea of the team going all in for the next five or six years.  You can't just assume Allen's health is a guarantee and you can't assume he will be elite at 36 or older.   You can hope, but maximizing the resources while he is the middle of his prime is the way to go, I think.  That does not mean trading all your draft picks, but it means void years on contracts and trading some premium picks for top talent if need be. 

 

Having said that, Allen is a freak and it would not shock me for him to be a top five QB into his late thirties.  

[BillsPride12]

Regardless of how much longer Josh has left, there should be urgency on Beane and McDermott's end to get over the hump and get a Lombardi.  

[RyanC883]

Bean has been awful in the 1st and often 2nd rounds.  Totally agree.  Trade those picks for vets.  Bean has done very well at getting the contributors that you would need to pare with stars in the middle rounds.  Keep those picks.  Ideally: 

 

--acquire DE and/or WR by trades. 

--or WR in FA.  There are a lot that can help.  First Higgins, Slayton, Godwin, etc.  

--CB in FA.  

--draft DI in the middle to late rounds, RB, etc.  Some very good DI, RBs will be available here, even S or CB.  Another "role" WR or run-stopping DE if needed.  Backup LB also. 

Edited Monday at 02:42 AM by RyanC883

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here, but if we're being honest with ourselves, he'll be 29 this year and probably has 5 or 6 good years left. Typically, qbs start to decline around their mid 30s. Hopefully he doesn't and plays till he's 40, who knows. 

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but the bills have to have some urgency here when it comes to winning a superbowl. My confidence is so low in beane drafting guys at this point, that I almost don't care if he trades most of our picks away to bring in proven guys. Obviously this won't happen, and I know beane has drafted some really good players but, I'm sorry I think we're past the point of being able to develop guys from the draft and wait 2 or 3 years and see. Anyways just my Sunday thoughts, need some free agent and superbowl urgency this season 

 

Barring career changing injury, I would argue he has double that at 10-years.  

[JimBob2232]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

This I can agree with. 

At some point his physical freak-ness will begin to wane and he will win with his mind.

We really do need to take advantage of the next 5 years.

Ya'll need to enjoy it.  Lombardi or not.  Dude is more fun to watch than any other QB in the league, and probably for the rest of your life.  Enjoy it.

 

Edited Monday at 03:18 AM by JimBob2232

[Thurman#1]

3 hours ago, Steptide said:

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here, but if we're being honest with ourselves, he'll be 29 this year and probably has 5 or 6 good years left. Typically, qbs start to decline around their mid 30s. Hopefully he doesn't and plays till he's 40, who knows. 

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but the bills have to have some urgency here when it comes to winning a superbowl. My confidence is so low in beane drafting guys at this point, that I almost don't care if he trades most of our picks away to bring in proven guys. Obviously this won't happen, and I know beane has drafted some really good players but, I'm sorry I think we're past the point of being able to develop guys from the draft and wait 2 or 3 years and see. Anyways just my Sunday thoughts, need some free agent and superbowl urgency this season 

 

 

Let's be honest.

 

What you have there is a guess. 

 

Some QBs decline much earlier, as Cam Newton did. Others much later, as Tom Brady did. Within the middle area where most are, there's huge variability and a lot of it depends on injuries. Peyton Manning could have gone another year or two at a tremendously high level if not for the arm injury. Stafford's playing as well as ever at 37. Five or six years is plucked out of the air.

 

Will his run game drop off probably around then? Yeah, maybe. But he's got the same ability to move in the pocket as someone like Brady did and Brady stayed 100% relevant way into his 40s. The way he played this year is something he can most maintain, very possibly for a long time.

 

Being honest doesn't mean you're correct. It only means that your opinion is deeply felt.

 

Urgency winning a Super Bowl? Absolutely. As they have every year. They should in the future have as much or more. We were probably one play away this year, damn it. They need to improve. Every year. They're aware of this.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

I’ve been thinking about this MVP season and just lamenting the fact that we’re definitely heading back to the Wastelands someday.

Just trade Josh already.

 

If we’re gonna wander the desert for an entire birth to adulthood I’d rather we start now before I enter my 40s.

[Rocky Landing]

40 is the new 30. And 50 is the new 40. And by the time Josh is 40, that 40 will be the new 30 from the previous 30, which will be the new 20. Probably by the time Josh hits Social Security age (which will have been raised to at least 70 by then) That 70 will be the new 60, at least three times removed, meaning that Josh should be a dominant NFL quarterback well into his "Golden Years," which by then will be "the new 80" which will, of course, be around 90 years old. 

 

Math.

[K D]

Good thing he will be playing for the Rams in 5 years once he sucks. Hopefully he can win one here before then

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

4 hours ago, Buffalo Ballin said:

He feels low because he couldn't get 2 chicks at the same time.

 

That always bums me out also.

[Steptide]

10 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

Regardless of how much longer Josh has left, there should be urgency on Beane and McDermott's end to get over the hump and get a Lombardi.  

And I think they'd tell you that there is, but I think their philosophy needs to change a bit. 

[Mr. WEO]

Beane brings in a bunch of "proven guys" each year.  And here we are...

[Einstein]

9 hours ago, JimBob2232 said:

Ya'll need to enjoy it.  Lombardi or not.  Dude is more fun to watch than any other QB in the league, and probably for the rest of your life.  Enjoy it.

 

You won’t find a bigger Josh Allen fan than me.

[Gregg]

9 hours ago, JimBob2232 said:

Ya'll need to enjoy it.  Lombardi or not.  Dude is more fun to watch than any other QB in the league, and probably for the rest of your life.  Enjoy it.

 

 

Definitely enjoy watching Allen play. He is one of the most exciting players to watch. But if the Bills can't win a Lombardi in the Allen era, then it will take away some of the enjoyment watching his career. They have to win at least one while he is the QB.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

9 hours ago, The Cincinnati Kid said:

I’ve been thinking about this MVP season and just lamenting the fact that we’re definitely heading back to the Wastelands someday.

Just trade Josh already.

 

If we’re gonna wander the desert for an entire birth to adulthood I’d rather we start now before I enter my 40s.

Just to, um, clarify, this was sarcasm related to the topic of the thread. 
 

🤷‍♂️ 

[without a drought]

How many great ones does he have left?