Let's be honest, Josh probably has 5 good seasons left

[Steptide]

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here, but if we're being honest with ourselves, he'll be 29 this year and probably has 5 or 6 good years left. Typically, qbs start to decline around their mid 30s. Hopefully he doesn't and plays till he's 40, who knows. 

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but the bills have to have some urgency here when it comes to winning a superbowl. My confidence is so low in beane drafting guys at this point, that I almost don't care if he trades most of our picks away to bring in proven guys. Obviously this won't happen, and I know beane has drafted some really good players but, I'm sorry I think we're past the point of being able to develop guys from the draft and wait 2 or 3 years and see. Anyways just my Sunday thoughts, need some free agent and superbowl urgency this season 

[Billzgobowlin]

Top end QBs last till at least 40.  Qbs that tend to rely on running only are early to mid 30s

[H2o]

He's about to turn 29. As long as he stays healthy, and continues to slide or get out of bounds more, then he could have another 8-10 good years. 

[bobobonators]

2 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Top end QBs last till at least 40.  Qbs that tend to rely on running only are early to mid 30s

Part of what makes Allen top end is his physicality. I agree with the OP - realistically he likely has ~5yrs left of top end production. Not to say he’ll be bad at 35 but I can’t expect him to perform at this level. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

He has to become more cerebral and stop running as much.  I would say 8 more years.

[Don Otreply]

To to OP, 

 

That’s  what Hailey said, 🤣

[JohnNord]

25 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here, but if we're being honest with ourselves, he'll be 29 this year and probably has 5 or 6 good years left. Typically, qbs start to decline around their mid 30s. Hopefully he doesn't and plays till he's 40, who knows. 

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but the bills have to have some urgency here when it comes to winning a superbowl. My confidence is so low in beane drafting guys at this point, that I almost don't care if he trades most of our picks away to bring in proven guys. Obviously this won't happen, and I know beane has drafted some really good players but, I'm sorry I think we're past the point of being able to develop guys from the draft and wait 2 or 3 years and see. Anyways just my Sunday thoughts, need some free agent and superbowl urgency this season 

I think the Bills know this, which is why they reset the roster last season.  It’s putting them in position for a second “window” which is currently open.  

[Ya Digg?]

42 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here, but if we're being honest with ourselves, he'll be 29 this year and probably has 5 or 6 good years left. Typically, qbs start to decline around their mid 30s. Hopefully he doesn't and plays till he's 40, who knows. 

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but the bills have to have some urgency here when it comes to winning a superbowl. My confidence is so low in beane drafting guys at this point, that I almost don't care if he trades most of our picks away to bring in proven guys. Obviously this won't happen, and I know beane has drafted some really good players but, I'm sorry I think we're past the point of being able to develop guys from the draft and wait 2 or 3 years and see. Anyways just my Sunday thoughts, need some free agent and superbowl urgency this season 

So in a year where EVERYONE said they would be rebuilding, would be no better than 3rd in their division, would be lucky to make the playoffs…turn that into dominant saying the division, make the AFC championship game, and Josh wins MVP. A year in which they far exceeded expectations…

 

You feel this low about the team??

 

 

[Buffalo Ballin]

He feels low because he couldn't get 2 chicks at the same time.

[Mike in Horseheads]

48 minutes ago, Steptide said:

I don't want to sound like Debbie downer here, but if we're being honest with ourselves, he'll be 29 this year and probably has 5 or 6 good years left. Typically, qbs start to decline around their mid 30s. Hopefully he doesn't and plays till he's 40, who knows. 

 

Not trying to beat a dead horse here, but the bills have to have some urgency here when it comes to winning a superbowl. My confidence is so low in beane drafting guys at this point, that I almost don't care if he trades most of our picks away to bring in proven guys. Obviously this won't happen, and I know beane has drafted some really good players but, I'm sorry I think we're past the point of being able to develop guys from the draft and wait 2 or 3 years and see. Anyways just my Sunday thoughts, need some free agent and superbowl urgency this season 

So another Beane hit thread

[billsfan714]

We're trying to time it out when Mcd passes Marvin Lewis for most games coaching a team without a superbowl appearance.

[Cray51]

He just had his most efficient season at 28 years old.  He isn’t Newton where his body is already showing signs of breaking down.  He is extending his mental game and it’s creating new ways that he can win.

 

he may have 5 seasons left of “wow” plays, but he has 10 seasons left of winning ability IMO

[BuffBillsForLife]

He probably has 5-6 years of being Superman, and then another 5 years of being really good left.

[Mikie2times]

14 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

He just had his most efficient season at 28 years old.  He isn’t Newton where his body is already showing signs of breaking down.  He is extending his mental game and it’s creating new ways that he can win.

 

he may have 5 seasons left of “wow” plays, but he has 10 seasons left of winning ability IMO

Perhaps. How he avoids the pass rush with his legs, scrambles in many of the "got to have it moments", and his off script and extended plays are things I'm not sure he can do long term. Those are young mans tools but have been such a huge part of his game. It's weird to think what would become of a Josh Allen who never leaves the pocket. Ben Roethlisberger is probably a likely comp as he ages. Some people talk about Ben now and it's a bit off the mark. Allen has more athleticism in his toe. 

Edited Monday at 12:40 AM by Mikie2times

[Bills!Win!]

Death, taxes and 5 months of awful offseason posts 

[Success]

Josh defies every expectation.

 

He's a hardcore competitor.  He's going to have longer than that.

 

[HamptonBillsfan]

So the guy who plays through minor injuries and is built like Reacher has 5 good years left. What kind of frustrated hater who trolls Bills forums with incendiary foolishness are you?  Great athlete QBs like Josh don’t hit their prime until 32 to 35. Silly post.

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

I wish I could kick this post in the balls

[transplantbillsfan]

Let's be honest, Big Ben notoriously took HORRIBLE care of himself and had great seasons in his age 36 and 38 season...

 

So no... you're probably wrong.

[Einstein]

25 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said:

He probably has 5-6 years of being Superman, and then another 5 years of being really good left.

This I can agree with. 

At some point his physical freak-ness will begin to wane and he will win with his mind.

We really do need to take advantage of the next 5 years.