LABILLBACKER Posted Monday at 07:40 PM Posted Monday at 07:40 PM 1 hour ago, KOKBILLS said: I don't know? That we're trying to win a SB? Look...No one has been more critical of this Defense than I have. I totally agree it has to be re-built. But if the opportunity to add a player like Metcalf comes along, and all it's going to cost you is a 2nd and a 4th and a restructure that will keep him cap friendly for at least the next two years. That's a win/win. You can still do plenty on Defense. Playing it safe has got the Bills this far... They used a late 3rd on a DT last year and no one even mentions his name. The Bills need difference makers. DK Metcalf is a difference maker. The 2nd & 4th doesn't spook me that much. And obviously BB would restructure his contract to factor in void years. We'd still have a 1st & 2nd round pick for DL. DK would bring a speed/size element this team has never had since Eric Moulds. 3 1 Quote
Cray51 Posted Monday at 07:54 PM Posted Monday at 07:54 PM If you could bring DK in, with an extension (I would assume he would want $25M+ a year...) for 4-5 years that brings his cap down, I would consider our 2nd and a 5th. Can't make that scenario happen? You pass and try to find another way to improve the WR room. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted Monday at 10:47 PM Posted Monday at 10:47 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, Cray51 said: If you could bring DK in, with an extension (I would assume he would want $25M+ a year...) for 4-5 years that brings his cap down, I would consider our 2nd and a 5th. Can't make that scenario happen? You pass and try to find another way to improve the WR room. getting Metcalf for a 2 & 4 would be an incredible trade for us. If Beane could pull that deal and still manage to get Garrett or Maxx… ideal. Metcalf Shakir Coleman Hollins (needs to be re-signed) Samuel if Keon plays more like he did right before the injury…at times flashing very good Samuel was good in the playoffs. An off-season with no turf toe hopefully and maybe he pushes himself onto the field more we’re set on O Edited Monday at 10:48 PM by Warriorspikes51 2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Monday at 10:54 PM Posted Monday at 10:54 PM (edited) 7 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: getting Metcalf for a 2 & 4 would be an incredible trade for us. If Beane could pull that deal and still manage to get Garrett or Maxx… ideal. Metcalf Shakir Coleman Hollins (needs to be re-signed) Samuel if Keon plays more like he did right before the injury…at times flashing very good Samuel was good in the playoffs. An off-season with no turf toe hopefully and maybe he pushes himself onto the field more we’re set on O How would the team handle the salaries of Metcalf and Garrett? They would have literally no draft picks in the top 5 rounds left this year and probably would be without a few for next year. This would also cost the team players next offseason. So a bunch of guys like cook/shakir/bernard and benford might have to leave because there is no money left. Then you couple that with having no draft picks to replace those players. exactly how is this a good way to run an organization? Edited Monday at 10:54 PM by MikePJ76 2 Quote
Einstein's Dog Posted Monday at 11:06 PM Posted Monday at 11:06 PM 6 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: How would the team handle the salaries of Metcalf and Garrett? They would have literally no draft picks in the top 5 rounds left this year and probably would be without a few for next year. This would also cost the team players next offseason. So a bunch of guys like cook/shakir/bernard and benford might have to leave because there is no money left. Then you couple that with having no draft picks to replace those players. exactly how is this a good way to run an organization? Teams can have a well salaried QB, WR, and DE. Many do. The Bills were going in that direction with Josh/Diggs and Von. Now they can try again with Josh/DK and a DE (Garrett/Crosby/Mack). It is a good way to run an organization because those are premium positions. And yes, you may have to sacrifice Cook to do it. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted Monday at 11:08 PM Posted Monday at 11:08 PM Just now, Einstein's Dog said: Teams can have a well salaried QB, WR, and DE. Many do. The Bills were going in that direction with Josh/Diggs and Von. Now they can try again with Josh/DK and a DE (Garrett/Crosby/Mack). It is a good way to run an organization because those are premium positions. And yes, you may have to sacrifice Cook to do it. They would be sacrificing the premium picks for essentially 2 drafts back to back, the cap implications would cause them to lose at least 3 maybe 4 key players. This would also mean there is zero chance of keeping Groot. You think this is a good way to operate an organization? Quote
SCBills Posted Monday at 11:17 PM Posted Monday at 11:17 PM 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: They would be sacrificing the premium picks for essentially 2 drafts back to back, the cap implications would cause them to lose at least 3 maybe 4 key players. This would also mean there is zero chance of keeping Groot. You think this is a good way to operate an organization? I highly doubt we’re getting both Garrett and DK… But if we gave up a 2nd and 4th for DK and then packaged a 1, 2 and next years 1 for Garrett, we’d have that Rams Draft from years ago when we don’t get on the board until Day 3. IF we knew we had that locked down, I’d move Cook for a Day 2 pick to use on a DT. I’d wait on any contract negotiations until after the season, with the hope Rousseau is a monster with a 1A across him… extend him. Let Benford walk and see where we land on negotiations with Shakir/Bernard. Thats a team built to dominate this coming year before they have to revamp their linebackers & secondary minus our RD1 pick. Load up on DB’s and LB’s on Day 3 and get them ready for ‘27. 1 Quote
JoshAllin Posted Monday at 11:21 PM Posted Monday at 11:21 PM (edited) If you want a route guy Kupp seems to be the guy, And I just want a surprise in DE Edited Monday at 11:22 PM by JoshAllin Quote
Cray51 Posted Tuesday at 01:15 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:15 AM 1 hour ago, SCBills said: I highly doubt we’re getting both Garrett and DK… But if we gave up a 2nd and 4th for DK and then packaged a 1, 2 and next years 1 for Garrett, we’d have that Rams Draft from years ago when we don’t get on the board until Day 3. IF we knew we had that locked down, I’d move Cook for a Day 2 pick to use on a DT. I’d wait on any contract negotiations until after the season, with the hope Rousseau is a monster with a 1A across him… extend him. Let Benford walk and see where we land on negotiations with Shakir/Bernard. Thats a team built to dominate this coming year before they have to revamp their linebackers & secondary minus our RD1 pick. Load up on DB’s and LB’s on Day 3 and get them ready for ‘27. If you get DK for a 2 and a 5, and you turn around and get Miles for 1,2,1 next year… you will end up letting Shakir and likely Rousseau walk the next season and you take comp picks that are probably pretty good as you look towards 2026 to restock. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted Tuesday at 01:21 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:21 AM 3 minutes ago, Cray51 said: If you get DK for a 2 and a 5, and you turn around and get Miles for 1,2,1 next year… you will end up letting Shakir and likely Rousseau walk the next season and you take comp picks that are probably pretty good as you look towards 2026 to restock. Id rather let Shakir and Benford walk, but I get what you’re saying. I just think a dominant DL is so much more important than a good, not great slot or good, not great corner. I also trust us to find another Shakir and Benford. Coleman might even be better suited to play inside if he can’t develop his route running and contested catch ability. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted Tuesday at 01:26 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:26 AM 7 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: Maybe the 2nd most... And FYI... He's VERY tradable for the Hawks this year (21M in dead cap with a 10M in cap savings), and because both he and the Bills would want to work an extension (he has an 18M base salary in 2025) it could be very cap friendly in 2025 and probably 2026... Or third!! 1 Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted Tuesday at 01:28 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:28 AM Let me just play devil's advocate. Do you think a top WR like DK or Tee Higgins would perennially disappoint in the "everyone eats" Joe Brady offense? Amari disappointed from a production standpoint and we gave up significant draft capital to get him. I'm just thinking that maybe part of what makes this offense hum is that Josh can run the play called and hit the open guy, not force feed his star #1 WR. I think we need more talent at WR, but maybe the better option is to add a younger guy with talent that won't break the bank, as opposed to a self-labeled #1 diva that will demand $ and draft capital. I'm thinking guys like Daymi Brown, Hollywood, Slayton, might be better fits in the end. But I'm open to being wrong too 1 Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Tuesday at 02:28 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:28 AM 59 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Or third!! I live in my TBH history some days and ponder what could have been had Beane not had me arrested that night I camped out on his lawn... 1 Quote
ghostwriter Posted Tuesday at 03:34 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:34 AM (edited) Here’s my Top 10 (in no particular order): 1.) Jevon Holland, Safety, Miami 2.) DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Chiefs 3.) Marquise Brown, WR, Chiefs 4.) Amari Cooper, WR, Bills 5.) Darius Slayton, WR, Giants 6.) Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Packers 7.) Jeremy Chinn, Safety, Commandors 8.) Joshua Uche, EDGE, Chiefs 9.) Marcus Maye, Safety, Chargers 10.) Jay Tufele, DT, Bengals Edited Tuesday at 03:56 AM by ghostwriter 1 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted Tuesday at 03:40 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:40 AM 4 minutes ago, ghostwriter said: Here’s my Top 10: 1.) Jevon Holland, Safety, Miami 2.) DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Chiefs 3.) Marquise Brown, WR, Chiefs 4.) Amari Cooper, WR, Bills 5.) Darius Slayton, WR, Giants 6.) Tedarrell Slaton, DT, Packers 7.) Jeremy Chinn, Safety, Commandors 8.) Joshua Uche, EDGE, Chiefs 9.) Marcus Maye, Safety, Chargers 10.) Jay Tufele, DT, Bengals Hopkins 2? He may retire. He didn't do much with the queefs. 1 1 Quote
ghostwriter Posted Tuesday at 03:44 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:44 AM 4 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Hopkins 2? He may retire. He didn't do much with the queefs. In no particular order. Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted Tuesday at 04:05 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:05 AM 20 minutes ago, ghostwriter said: In no particular order. Oh my bad. Read these too quick sometimes. 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted Tuesday at 04:19 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:19 AM (edited) K. Allen and Slayton. Garret or Crosby. A CB or S. Edited Tuesday at 04:19 AM by RyanC883 Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted Tuesday at 06:04 AM Posted Tuesday at 06:04 AM Could you imagine a defensive player to root heavy for like we do for JA17 on offense?! Another player with the significance and dominance of a BS78…! Haven’t had that in looooong time. Let’s go, Bills, get ‘er done! Gimme a defense player to love Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted Tuesday at 06:33 AM Posted Tuesday at 06:33 AM 5 hours ago, harmonkillebrew said: Let me just play devil's advocate. Do you think a top WR like DK or Tee Higgins would perennially disappoint in the "everyone eats" Joe Brady offense? Amari disappointed from a production standpoint and we gave up significant draft capital to get him. I'm just thinking that maybe part of what makes this offense hum is that Josh can run the play called and hit the open guy, not force feed his star #1 WR. I think we need more talent at WR, but maybe the better option is to add a younger guy with talent that won't break the bank, as opposed to a self-labeled #1 diva that will demand $ and draft capital. I'm thinking guys like Daymi Brown, Hollywood, Slayton, might be better fits in the end. But I'm open to being wrong too Everyone eats is because nobody is good enough to steal all the food from the others. That’s not good…the second part. Big big problem when you need 6 in the red zone, eh 1 Quote
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