Free Agents we like for the 2025 Bills?

[The Jokeman]

On 2/15/2025 at 10:19 AM, Orlando Buffalo said:

Just to everyone who is fixated on spending money on a WR, we scored the most points in the NFL and scored 27 and 29 pts in each playoff games that mattered. I doubt we spend much on offense when we have Josh and the OL playing well, especially for anyone over 20 million a year, which I agree with if we spend the money on DL.

I think the thought of WR is that likely we added Cooper mid season and likely to lose him leaving us with the WR core we started with at start of 2024 season. I'm okay adding one to the mix but not a number 1 need.

Edited Sunday at 09:57 PM by The Jokeman

[ProcessTruster]

13 hours ago, ghostwriter said:

I’m okay with $25M/year for Higgins. This offense would be unstoppable. Maybe he would take slightly less to play with Josh?

the offense is unstoppable now.   led the league in scoring and set the 60 year franchise record. 

 

not sure what you are thinking here.   Just play the offense back next season with a speed guy added, probably via the draft.   

 

The D is where work needs to be done.  

[FireChans]

1 minute ago, ProcessTruster said:

the offense is unstoppable now.   led the league in scoring and set the 60 year franchise record. 

 

not sure what you are thinking here.   Just play the offense back next season with a speed guy added, probably via the draft.   

 

The D is where work needs to be done.  

Huh.

 

we want to re-sign Cooper to $15M AAV?

[ProcessTruster]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Huh.

 

we want to re-sign Cooper to $15M AAV?

assuming injury-free Coleman, Samuel and Kincaid,  plus a speed WR draftee/FA or 2  I am reasonably good at WR even if Cooper walks for $15m+ somewhere else.   I need to sign Cook and Shakir as they make this offense go.   Cooper on the wrong side of 30 soon.  

 

Amazing how this board writes off guys who were playing seriously banged up for more than half the season (esp. Samuel) .   Amazing really.  Just write 'em off. 

 

Not a lot of thought goes into so many posts here.  

[JGMcD2]

4 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

assuming injury-free Coleman, Samuel and Kincaid,  plus a speed WR draftee/FA or 2  I am reasonably good at WR even if Cooper walks for $15m+ somewhere else.   I need to sign Cook and Shakir as they make this offense go.   Cooper on the wrong side of 30 soon.  

 

Amazing how this board writes off guys who were playing seriously banged up for more than half the season (esp. Samuel) .   Amazing really.  Just write 'em off. 

 

Not a lot of thought goes into so many posts here.  

Because most people think very binary… it’s either “good” or “bad” there’s no room for context in their minds. 

[Maine-iac]

Bargain (relatively speaking) bin shopping.  

 

BJ Hill at 10 mil a year would go a long way toward fixing some problems

Mike Williams could probably do enough Amari Cooper things at half the price (10mil)

Chase Young combines great size, speed, and strenght and if spotrac is right he only has 6 starts and no injuries in the last 2 years.  If we can sign him to an AJ like contract I'd do it (if?).

Julian Blackmon good size and speed and has a history at CB.  Might be too rich for my blood of a FA signing but he could be a starter.  Hopefully him and Bishop.

 

Not throwing too much bank at anyone and we still have draft picks for more needs.

[ProcessTruster]

19 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Because most people think very binary… it’s either “good” or “bad” there’s no room for context in their minds. 

yep.  I don't put much weight on rookie seasons.  Rookies' bodies just aren't ready for the NFL; for example, I expect D Carter to come back stronger, around 320 at 6'3" and be the monster he flashed a bit this past season.   I expect Coleman to come back smarter and pick up right where he left off in Seattle b4 Poyer cheap-shotted him.   These two came out as 21 year old college juniors.   Same for Bishop; physically that guy can play anywhere in the back 5.  Give them a chance to get an NFL body/smarts on themselves b4 judging them.   

 

I'd love to build a dream team of other teams superstars, but that is not happening with what is about to be a $60m+ per year QB (who has a few flaws of his own) cap hit.   It is a continual process of draft and develop, IMHO.   

Edited Saturday at 04:18 PM by ProcessTruster

[FireChans]

17 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

assuming injury-free Coleman, Samuel and Kincaid,  plus a speed WR draftee/FA or 2  I am reasonably good at WR even if Cooper walks for $15m+ somewhere else.   I need to sign Cook and Shakir as they make this offense go.   Cooper on the wrong side of 30 soon.  

 

Amazing how this board writes off guys who were playing seriously banged up for more than half the season (esp. Samuel) .   Amazing really.  Just write 'em off. 

 

Not a lot of thought goes into so many posts here.  

I mean, we banked on Curtis Samuel last year and we had to trade a day 2 pick to rent a WR for half the year. Samuel of course had like 200 yards.

 

So your stance of “let’s bank on him again, idiots!” is pretty ironic.

[ProcessTruster]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I mean, we banked on Curtis Samuel last year and we had to trade a day 2 pick to rent a WR for half the year. Samuel of course had like 200 yards.

 

So your stance of “let’s bank on him again, idiots!” is pretty ironic.

Injuries matter.  Samuel had a turf toe, which is devastating to a speed guy.   Pretty much wiped his season, as that type of injury tends to do.  Once healed, we saw what he could do.    If Samuel is healthy, Cooper doesn't happen. 

 

Yeah its a restart for him, but the fundamentals of why Beane went and got him should still be there, right?    

[pennstate10]

3 hours ago, aristocrat said:

Chris Godwin then draft all defense

Chris Godwins skill set is similar to Coleman’s, just better. 
 

When he was young and healthy. 
 

If he still has the juice, he’d be a great signing. 

[LabattBlue]

5 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Chris Godwins skill set is similar to Coleman’s, just better. 
 

When he was young and healthy. 
 

If he still has the juice, he’d be a great signing. 

Isn’t Godwin a slot guy?  Not sure he is anything like Coleman. 

[Low Positive]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

No. 😂😂😂

[gonzo1105]

Paulson Adebo is my # 1 guy in FA for the Bills. Can we afford him I’m not sure but he’s the guy I want # 1

 

Nick Westbrook Ikhine might be a nice field stretching WR with us who shouldn’t break the bank. 
 

Malcolm Koonce is a good wild card Defensive End to take a chance on. Upside is definitely there to be a good player. 
 

Jason Pinnock is a solid safety much in the same realm of Hyde when we signed him. 

[billykay]

13 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

For me personally.

 

safety Andre Cisco.  Makes plays on the ball, went to SU and is from Long Island.   He is only 24 years old.  His former DC in Jax is now on the bulls staff.  He becomes the deep/free safety allowing bishop to play near the line and rapp to go back to being the third guy in sub packages.

 

the problem here is spotrac is speculating Cisco is going to get 4 for 60.  I am not sure the bills are willing to do that at safety.  
 

I am of the opinion the defense is about to get the same treatment the offense got after the loss to the bengals, be coaches added to the staff and a rebuild on the line of scrimmage.  I think this might make them more willing to spend money at safety because it frees them up on draft day.

 

my other player is Darius slayton.  He brings the element the bills lack outside and is very explosive.  He has the personality to fit in to the locker room.  He has good size to go along with his speed.  Not much smaller than Higgins.  
 

signing those two players along with hollins and Gilliam keeps the offense as is and improves it imo.  I don’t think they pay Ty Johnson.

 

these two signings free them up to attack the defensive line and corner.  Plus if a wr slips to them that they love they can always draft him and make hollins a special teams guy. 
 

 

We'll pay Ty, definitely.

[Jrb1979]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

the offense is unstoppable now.   led the league in scoring and set the 60 year franchise record. 

 

not sure what you are thinking here.   Just play the offense back next season with a speed guy added, probably via the draft.   

 

The D is where work needs to be done.  

This past season it's been unstoppable but there is no guarantee it's going to continue to be that way. Teams have tape now and will work on stopping it. I'm not saying to ignore the defense but you need playmakers on both sides of the ball. 

They still need that dominant WR. 

[GunnerBill]

16 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I didn't say I was against signing him, but he isn't going to sign for anything close to $20M.  Spotrac has Shakir at like $19.7M (although I think he signs on a home town discount for less).  

 

Higgins is the only high quality WR on the market.  Next best is Cooper who is a class below Higgins.  And I didn't say he was worth $30M, but that doesn't mean he won't still get closer to $30M than $20M.  I mean Christian Kirk who was far less accomplished than Higgins got $20M per when he signed with the Jags and that was like 3 years ago.  

 

$25M is about what I think he is worth, but I think there is a reasonable chance he can get more, probably like $27M+ per  

 

28-30 is where I guess it lands. Boundary receivers that good rarely hit FA. He only is because he is on the same team as a true elite guy in Chase. I'm trying to remember the last prime age guy as good as Higgins to hit the market?

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

Injuries matter.  Samuel had a turf toe, which is devastating to a speed guy.   Pretty much wiped his season, as that type of injury tends to do.  Once healed, we saw what he could do.    If Samuel is healthy, Cooper doesn't happen. 

 

Yeah its a restart for him, but the fundamentals of why Beane went and got him should still be there, right?    

By all means, if you wanna double down on the 29 year old staying healthy all of next year, that’s your prerogative.

[Lofton80]

Free agent Safety is the most likely add. I don't see McDermott starting a rookie alongside Bishop next year. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

the offense is unstoppable now.   led the league in scoring and set the 60 year franchise record. 

 

not sure what you are thinking here.   Just play the offense back next season with a speed guy added, probably via the draft.   

 

The D is where work needs to be done.  

The offense wasn't unstoppable on that jailbreak play vs KC where Kincaid couldn't come up with the catch. Plus, you cannot stay complacent in the ever changing NFL.

[Nephilim17]

Not sure spending money on Tee Higgins is worth it when we need a field stretcher at WR and the piggy bank is far from full. Would he improve the team? Sure. Is it the best use of approx. $25 million or more per year. I don't think so.