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On 2/15/2025 at 1:12 AM, BillsFanForever19 said:

Tee Higgins is talked about all the time. Just like he was last year.... before he was tagged.

 

Joe Burrow is pushing hard to keep him. Like last year, they're in good shape cap wise. I'll believe he's actually available when there's no extension before Free Agency and they don't Franchise Tag him again by the deadline. 


If they can’t get a long term deal done (and I don’t think they can/will), I think they will franchise and trade him. 
 

 

I don’t know who specifically the Bills will go after, but I’d like to see them go for Adams when NY releases him.  2 year 40M type of deal. Maybe longer in years and no guaranteed money to spread cap hit, but get that real alpha X, let Shakir run the middle and see what, if anything, you have in Coleman.  Draft a burner..

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On 2/18/2025 at 11:58 AM, Mark Vader said:

The overreaction to rookie seasons is both laughable and maddening.

 

We all remember when people were saying how awful Eric Moulds was. More recently how terrible Spencer Brown and Terrel Bernard were. Now Dalton Kincaid and Keon Coleman are busts.

 

I get it, not all players work out, it happens. Some fans just refuse to let players develop and improve because they want instant all-pro success.

No one complained about Spencer Brown pick in the 3rd round.  Moulds played under Levy, who was notorious for not playing rookies.  Bernard was another third round pick, where instant expectations are not the same as first round picks.

 

Let’s hear you make the case that Dalton and Keon were good draft selections.  
 

I’m more hopeful for Dalton(even though he was reach and we overpaid imo)that maybe he can become a top 5 TE.  Keon was slow in college, and the NFL is much faster.  He can’t beat a jam cleanly, and his catch percentage after Poyer hit was minuscule.  Moulds could beat a jam and line up outside, so we saw potential.  Keon is no X WR

 

 

 

 

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I was just reading that Dalvin tomlinson could be cut in cleveland because of their bad cap situation.

 

He fits the bill as maybe an upgrade over Jones.  He might be too expensive though considering that position is 

probably going to see two rookies get drafted.

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5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

No thank you. Guy has more missed games over the last 3 years than sacks over the same period. He was good once upon a time...now he's made of glass. 

100%.

 

He is a giant No.  

 

seems like the kind of guy that will land in baltimore or the jets or something.  Maybe even Cincy if they end up gutting their roster because of money.

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https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-free-agency-derek-carr-tyler-lockett-among-21-notable-cut-candidates-in-nfc?campaign=Twitter_atn

 

potential cuts around the league.

 

interesting note there on cam Jordan.  We have his old coach from the saints on staff.

of course most teams would be interested in him if he is affordable though.

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19 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

100%.

 

He is a giant No.  

 

seems like the kind of guy that will land in baltimore or the jets or something.  Maybe even Cincy if they end up gutting their roster because of money.

Aging player that's still a big name and often injured? Miami is chomping at the bit already....

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1 hour ago, Pete said:

No one complained about Spencer Brown pick in the 3rd round.  Moulds played under Levy, who was notorious for not playing rookies.  Bernard was another third round pick, where instant expectations are not the same as first round picks.

 

Let’s hear you make the case that Dalton and Keon were good draft selections.  
 

I’m more hopeful for Dalton(even though he was reach and we overpaid imo)that maybe he can become a top 5 TE.  Keon was slow in college, and the NFL is much faster.  He can’t beat a jam cleanly, and his catch percentage after Poyer hit was minuscule.  Moulds could beat a jam and line up outside, so we saw potential.  Keon is no X WR

 

 

 

 

It's a big offseason for Keon.  I wonder if he's a big part of the reason Ciano was let go.  Release packages can be learned.  Strength must be earned.  Keon (and Kincaid) need to get a LOT stronger this offseason. 

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10 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-free-agency-derek-carr-tyler-lockett-among-21-notable-cut-candidates-in-nfc?campaign=Twitter_atn

 

potential cuts around the league.

 

interesting note there on cam Jordan.  We have his old coach from the saints on staff.

of course most teams would be interested in him if he is affordable though.

Lockett is the WR from Seattle to watch. DK isn't getting traded. It's been reported that every person interviewed for the OC position there was specifically asked what their plan was for DK. When asked about if Lockett is returning, their coach said something along the lines of "we are working through that". 

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Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

Lockett is the WR from Seattle to watch. DK isn't getting traded. It's been reported that every person interviewed for the OC position there was specifically asked what their plan was for DK. When asked about if Lockett is returning, their coach said something along the lines of "we are working through that". 


Lockett is 32, I'd rather just keep Amari 

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4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:


Lockett is 32, I'd rather just keep Amari 

Lockett still had a 49/600/2 stat line as basically the #3 WR option on a run first team. He can play. Especially on a team where they like to spread the ball...he can make those clutch catches still and move the chains. 

 

I would say he and Cooper are about the same these days so whoever could be had cheaper is the one I roll with 

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2 hours ago, Magox said:

DT - DJ Jones and Tier Tart -  FA acquisitions and use one of your premium draft picks and another mid to late rounder on DT's

Release - Daquan

Let everyone else walk except Oliver and Carter

 

DJ Jones should come in somewhere around $8M AAV - really good run stuffer who can push the pocket and Tier Tart who will be a lot cheaper

 

DE - No FA acquisitions - Swing for fences for either Garrett or Crosby - Assuming you can't get them - Use one of your three premium picks on a DE

 

Release Von

 

Keep Smoot

 

Safety - Justin Simmons will play the role that they are lacking, will add experience, should be relatively cheap around $5M - Draft another with mid to late rounder

 

CB - FA pickup DJ Reed, or Chavarious Ward - one of those two, based off the coaching additions it appears Bills will be employing more man to man schemes and they would be a fit - They need to get a higher end CB.  Draft one with a mid to late rounder

 

Trade Elam for whatever you can get.  

 

WR - Either Slayton or Hollywood Brown - someone who has speed and can stretch defenses, it would need to be under $10M AAV - Use one of your premium draft choices on a WR who can separate.

 

 

 

I think I'd tend to go slightly higher up to market at safety and slightly lower down the market at corner.... and Slayton is a meh for me. It's Hollywood Brown or a swing at Dyami Brown / Tutu Atwell as buy low options. Otherwise I like the plan.

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1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

No thank you. Guy has more missed games over the last 3 years than sacks over the same period. He was good once upon a time...now he's made of glass. 

 

The only way I'd agree to a deal with him is if it was very incentive based.   You offer a low guarantee of around $12 M with the possibility of earning $4M if he plays in 15 games and if he plays all 17 games he gets $6M.  And then another max potential of $6M per year if he hits certain sack production.

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31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I think I'd tend to go slightly higher up to market at safety

Safety market is absolutely loaded.  Justin Reid-Jeremy Chinn-Julian Blackmon-Jevon Holland-Trevon Moehrig-Andre Cisco-Camryn Bynum-Tahanoa Hufanga...  One of these will be a Bill, IMO.

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3 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/market-value/_/id/25231/josh-sweat

 

How do all you experts out there feel about Josh Sweat? I didn't know much about him until he performed so well in the SB. He certainly seems to fill a need, and at 27 yrs old and 18.8/yr he less expensive than Myles Garrett would be. Thoughts?

 

Sweat would be a great addition.  


If the Bills are truly serious, they can upgrade multiple DL spots.
 

Use the new cap increase and expected continued massive jumps to stack Void Years $

The Eagles have $290 Million worth of contracts in Void Years.  The Bills have less than $40 Million

 

time to take advantage of that cap circumvention 

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3 hours ago, Pete said:

No one complained about Spencer Brown pick in the 3rd round.  Moulds played under Levy, who was notorious for not playing rookies.  Bernard was another third round pick, where instant expectations are not the same as first round picks.

 

Let’s hear you make the case that Dalton and Keon were good draft selections.  
 

I’m more hopeful for Dalton(even though he was reach and we overpaid imo)that maybe he can become a top 5 TE.  Keon was slow in college, and the NFL is much faster.  He can’t beat a jam cleanly, and his catch percentage after Poyer hit was minuscule.  Moulds could beat a jam and line up outside, so we saw potential.  Keon is no X WR

 

 

 

 

There are many people here that complain about rookies and second year players, no matter where they were drafted. You know that.

 

It doesn't matter if Levy didn't play rookies, people were saying what bust Moulds was after his second season.

 

I think that the selection of Dalton Kincaid was a good selection, although it was odd that we had just given a big contract to Knox. Kincaid is not a traditional Tight End, he's more of a big Wide Receiver. 

I'm not going to condemn him or label him a bust after two seasons.

 

Same thing goes for Coleman. I was not a fan of drafting him, I've stated that before. In all honesty, he was doing pretty good before he got injured, he wasn't the same afterwards.  He cannot stretch the field because he is slow, and they should not be using him that way.

Still, I am not labeling him as a bust after ONE season.

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