Free Agents we like for the 2025 Bills?

[GunnerBill]

On 2/22/2025 at 1:48 AM, The Jokeman said:

One name that has speed and gets good separation I haven't heard mentioned yet is Tutu Atwell. Granted he is a slot guy but could also be in mix as return man too. Obviously not a #2 but maybe a #5 WR if want to use higher picks else where.

 

I've mentioned him in this thread..... and he played primarily wide this season (67%). He is small but he is not primarily a slot guy. 

 

For me it is Hollywood or take a punt on Atwell or Dyami Brown. 

Edited 13 hours ago by GunnerBill

[MikePJ76]

The athletics top free agents by tier

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6119321/2025/02/24/nfl-2025-free-agent-rankings-best-available/?source=user_shared_article

 

2025 NFL free-agency rankings top 150: Where do Aaron Rodgers, Tee Higgins, Sam Darnold fall?

 

their list has safety Andre Cisco as a tier 6 guy and Darius slayton as a tier 5 guy.

 

that seems perfect to me.   Cisco has the size, ability and potential and slayton has the tools to help day one make a difference.  
 

Paying Cisco for his potential is the perfect situation.  Wouldnt stop them from drafting a top safety if one falls to them and can play free safety.

Edited 11 hours ago by MikePJ76

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I've mentioned him in this thread..... and he played primarily wide this season (67%). He is small but he is not primarily a slot guy. 

 

For me it is Hollywood or take a punt on Atwell or Dyami Brown. 

I like Slayton because he can play on the outside for sure and haz better size than these other guys. 

[MikePJ76]

Here is what the list had to say about safety Andre Cisco

tier 6

 

Age: 25  Height: 6-0  Weight: 210

 

A third-round pick and three-year starter, Cisco brings a good combination of size, athleticism and ball skills (eight INTs, 24 PDs since 2022), but he needs to become more consistent. He appeared to be involved in several busts as the Jaguars’ defense fell apart in 2024; he lost snaps in November and was pulled from the starting lineup for two games in December.

 

Primarily a free safety, Cisco has the range to play deep but has shown enough in run support to merit a varied role. It would not be surprising to see him excel in the right environment.

 

and here is the piece on Darius Slayton

tier 4

 

Age: 28  Height: 6-1  Weight: 198

Slayton has quietly been one of the league’s better big-play threats for six seasons, averaging 15.0 yards per catch despite playing with Daniel Jones and a handful of replacement-level QBs.

 

He found a soft market in 2023, re-signing for two years and $12 million, and he’ll hit free agency again after totaling just seven catches in seven games with Tommy DeVito and Drew Lock.

 

In the right environment, Slayton could bring significant upside, ideally with a No. 1 target to draw attention and a QB willing to attack downfield. Darnell Mooney and Gabe Davis each got $13 million annually last spring, which feels a tad high for Slayton but not implausible.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

27 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I like Slayton because he can play on the outside for sure and haz better size than these other guys. 

 

I like him less becaus I the ceiling is lower. Though the floor is probably higher. I dunno. Whenever I watch him play he leaves me a bit cold. I suspect he will get more than I am comfortable paying, but who knows?

[The Jokeman]

31 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I like him less becaus I the ceiling is lower. Though the floor is probably higher. I dunno. Whenever I watch him play he leaves me a bit cold. I suspect he will get more than I am comfortable paying, but who knows?

I suppose his higher floor is my appeal as I keep my expectations tempered with most free agent/draft picks as to many years expect great things and guys just don't live up to the hype and it's not worth building it anymore IMO. 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, MikePJ76 said:

 

In the right environment, Slayton could bring significant upside, ideally with a No. 1 target to draw attention and a QB willing to attack downfield. Darnell Mooney and Gabe Davis each got $13 million annually last spring, which feels a tad high for Slayton but not implausible.

 

 

 

Yea Mooney was the guy I wanted last spring. I value Slayton lower than him. Spotrac has him at $15.8m AAV. There is zero point zero per cent chance I am in at that number!

[BuffaloBillyG]

On 2/20/2025 at 11:57 AM, Kirby Jackson said:

I think Sweat is good and a decent upgrade. At the same time, I have ZERO concern about cost or the cap situation in 2031 (or whatever). Jeremy White was talking about it this morning and I couldn’t agree more. Don’t settle. Don’t worry about cost. Don’t worry about dead money 6 or 7 years from now. None of that matters. Push all of your chips in. Go get Garrett. Go get more than Garrett. No reason to settle on anything. 

I think this is very valid. With Josh being 29 to start next season it's time to start long term planning for the end game of his career. We have those 6 or 7 more years with him. By that time he's 35-36 and in the twilight of his career. So throw whatever it takes right now into what it takes to win the big one once or a few times. Then hit the reset button, have a bad year and land a high draft pick and take a swing at finding the next great QB in 2030 or 2031. 

 

The AFC has some good teams and we are near the top of that list year in and year out... without having much in the department of elite talent. This roster with a few more blue chip type guys (the Eagles method) would put the Bills on another level than teams like Baltimore and KC. 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think this is very valid. With Josh being 29 to start next season it's time to start long term planning for the end game of his career. We have those 6 or 7 more years with him. By that time he's 35-36 and in the twilight of his career. So throw whatever it takes right now into what it takes to win the big one once or a few times. Then hit the reset button, have a bad year and land a high draft pick and take a swing at finding the next great QB in 2030 or 2031. 

 

The AFC has some good teams and we are near the top of that list year in and year out... without having much in the department of elite talent. This roster with a few more blue chip type guys (the Eagles method) would put the Bills on another level than teams like Baltimore and KC. 

 

The 25 bills are right there with many returning starters. This should be the best roster they build in the Allen era. 

 

I expect 14-16 wins and complete dominance. They have the cap room and draft picks 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[SoonerBillsFan]

Charvarius Ward at CB is someone I can see McBeane looking hard at. After the Tragic passing of his child, he wants as far way from California as he can get. Damn good player that our locker room Culture could help him from the emotional standpoint I think.  He seems the guy that would cling to our culture and play well.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Charvarius Ward at CB is someone I can see McBeane looking hard at. After the Tragic passing of his child, he wants as far way from California as he can get. Damn good player that our locker room Culture could help him from the emotional standpoint I think.  He seems the guy that would cling to our culture and play well.

 

Is it asking too much for both C.Ward and DJ Reed + adding an elite player to the DL

probably....but WE ARE ASKING 

let Hamlin and Douglas walk.    Move Benford to safety  (in the wild event we add 2 quality corners)

Edited 6 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[Magox]

Don't be surprised if the Bills seriously kick the tires on Josh Palmer.    He's 25, estimated to come in at around $5M per season, he is a boundary receiver who has good size.   And surprisingly, his ability to separate and win against man to man coverage is among the better ones in the NFL.

 

 

 

I could see the Bills going after a low cost high upside option like Palmer, paired with either a premium or middle round draft choice.

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Is it asking too much for both C.Ward and DJ Reed + adding an elite player to the DL

probably....but WE ARE ASKING 

let Hamlin and Douglas walk.    Move Benford to safety  (in the wild event we add 2 quality corners)

Ward, and a damn good DL is a big start

[poblano]

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Is it asking too much for both C.Ward and DJ Reed + adding an elite player to the DL

probably....but WE ARE ASKING 

let Hamlin and Douglas walk.    Move Benford to safety  (in the wild event we add 2 quality corners)

Why  move your best cover corner to safety.   Clearly you need better safety play, but not  sacrificing CBs

[NastyNateSoldiers]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think this is very valid. With Josh being 29 to start next season it's time to start long term planning for the end game of his career. We have those 6 or 7 more years with him. By that time he's 35-36 and in the twilight of his career. So throw whatever it takes right now into what it takes to win the big one once or a few times. Then hit the reset button, have a bad year and land a high draft pick and take a swing at finding the next great QB in 2030 or 2031. 

 

The AFC has some good teams and we are near the top of that list year in and year out... without having much in the department of elite talent. This roster with a few more blue chip type guys (the Eagles method) would put the Bills on another level than teams like Baltimore and KC. 

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[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

On 2/14/2025 at 8:50 PM, ghostwriter said:

He’s very good but not $30M good. Spotrac says $25M, you say $30M, I guess we’ll have to wait and see..

 

Can you imagine our offense with Higgins, Shakir and Cook though? Especially if Coleman and Kincaid take a step?

Higgins would be a huge upgrade. 

[MikePJ76]

Made a thread for this but I will put it here too.

 

Made a Andre Cisco highlight reel this morning.  He makes all the sense in the world to me even if he grew up a jets fan.

 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

47 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Made a thread for this but I will put it here too.

 

Made a Andre Cisco highlight reel this morning.  He makes all the sense in the world to me even if he grew up a jets fan.

 

 

He kind of reminds me of Henry Jones.

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

Higgins would be a huge upgrade. 

 

Keep in mind he's only played 12 games each of the last 2 seasons  + has Chase taking away top defenders 

[GunnerBill]

3 hours ago, Magox said:

Don't be surprised if the Bills seriously kick the tires on Josh Palmer.    He's 25, estimated to come in at around $5M per season, he is a boundary receiver who has good size.   And surprisingly, his ability to separate and win against man to man coverage is among the better ones in the NFL.

 

 

 

I could see the Bills going after a low cost high upside option like Palmer, paired with either a premium or middle round draft choice.

 

 

 

Palmer at that price is a better option than Slayton at $13-15m AAV.

1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Keep in mind he's only played 12 games each of the last 2 seasons  + has Chase taking away top defenders 

 

His numbers without Chase are excellent though. I see the Chase thing the other way. He depresses Higgins' numbers because he hogs targets.

2 hours ago, poblano said:

Why  move your best cover corner to safety.   Clearly you need better safety play, but not  sacrificing CBs

 

I agree. No way am I moving Benford.