Jim Monos w/ critical comments on Bills front office, coaching, roster moves

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Monos was fired .., he paid the price …

Moving onto Beane … these are his first picks in the draft since Josh Allen 

 

Ed Oliver 

AJE

Rousseau

Elam

Kincaid 

Coleman …

 

What are your thoughts ? 

 

Average at best. 

 

Oliver - He's been a starter since being drafted and earned a second contract. You always want more from him. B-

 

AJE - He had a disaster of a Combine with his 5.04 40-yard dash. So not surprising he had to drop weight right away and then turned into a rotational player. C

 

Rousseau - The best player on this list. 6'6" with real size and young. A

 

Elam - Flat out bust. No other way to put it. He's inactive all the time. F

 

Kincaid - Unfortunately there was run on WRs right before the Bills picked. It was always a weird fit with this "big slot WR" and Knox already under contract. For me, he's underwhelmed his entire time here. Always wished he was taller, stronger, faster. C

 

Coleman - He plays just like his Scouting Reports said he was. Maybe he was coming on with back to back good games against the Titans and Seahawks, but this ignores the 1-catch, 2-target red zone drop against the Dolphins. Down the stretch he was unusable. Allen would try a deep fade high and outside, otherwise nothing went his way. All you can hope is he is working non-stop this offseason on his speed. Right now? C?  

 

 

A = 4

B = 3

C = 2

D = 1

F = 0

 

Average = 2.17

 

Average as I went through this experiment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jimmy Harris 69]

There’s nothing groundbreaking about any of Monos’ opinions. His criticisms ignore Beane’s  successes. One need only look at the Bills roster and see it is filled with Beane draftees. (Currently 30 out of 70)During the drought, when Monos was with the team, the lack of rostered draftees was startling. The 24 draft alone yielded seven who are still with the club.

2 (33): WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

2 (60): S Cole Bishop, Utah

3 (95): DI DeWayne Carter, Duke

4 (128): RB Ray Davis, Kentucky

5 (141): C Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia

5 (160): LB Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington

5 (168): ED Javon Solomon, Troy

6 (204): T Tylan Grable, UCF

6 (219): CB Daequan Hardy, Penn State

7 (221): G Travis Clayton, International

 

The key in my view, McBeane MUST be one on the type of defense they are running and the type of players they need. I am hopeful their take-a-way from SB59 is that a big physical defense will give KC problems. Seeing that they build one through the draft and free agency. The time for mediocrity on defense is over. If the Rams and Philly can do it, you can. Nap time is over.

Edited February 14 by Jimmy Harris 69

[Buffalo716]

12 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

That happens when you sit in your room and drink yourself into a stupor every night. 

It has to happen to Buffalo 

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

There’s nothing groundbreaking about any of Monos’ opinions. His criticisms ignore Beane’s  successes. One need only look at the Bills roster and see it is filled with Beane draftees. (Currently 30 out of 70)During the drought, when Monos was with the team, the lack of rostered draftees was startling. The 24 draft alone yielded seven who are still with the club.

2 (33): WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

2 (60): S Cole Bishop, Utah

3 (95): DI DeWayne Carter, Duke

4 (128): RB Ray Davis, Kentucky

5 (141): C Sedrick Van Pran, Georgia

5 (160): LB Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington

5 (168): ED Javon Solomon, Troy

6 (204): T Tylan Grable, UCF

6 (219): CB Daequan Hardy, Penn State

7 (221): G Travis Clayton, International

 

The key in my view, McBeane MUST be one on the type of defense they are running and the type of players they need. I am hopeful their take-a-way from SB59 is that a big physical defense will give KC problems. Seeing that they build one through the draft and free agency. The time for mediocrity on defense is over. If the Rams and Philly can do it; nap time is over.

How many of those guys look like they will elite playmakers?

[ddaryl]

7 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Didn’t Buddy Nix basically force that pick anyway?

We were beyond desperate for a QB, and 2013 was probably the all time worse year for QBs, especially in the 1st rd. There was no way we were not drafting a 1st rd QB in 2013... we really were that desperate.

I remember the debates going back and forth about who we would draft and I actually put a spreadsheet together tracing everyones opinion that offseason.
I've kept that spreadsheeet because I used some funky formulas and did lots of research etc.. so I kept it as a tutorial in case I ever wanted remember

I attached it for fun.. This was done on the official Bills website forum that use to exist back then.

QB POLL concantenanted.xlsx

Edited February 14 by ddaryl

[Jimmy Harris 69]

5 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

How many of those guys look like they will elite playmakers?

Enough to win 13 regular season games, two playoff games, and get within 3 points of the Super Bowl. 
 

 

Edited February 14 by Jimmy Harris 69

[JohnNord]

2 hours ago, beebe said:

Monos was director of personnel for the Bills 2013-2017. Pretty good listen for those interested (this podcast is non paywall): https://www.golongtd.com/p/pod-state-of-the-buffalo-bills-with

 

-Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for the 1st and 2nd round selections they've made. Says they've done much better in the mid-rounds but says the 1st and 2nd rounds are the GM and the coach picking, and they simply haven't been good enough there. He thinks Beane needs to defer to someone else if need be to make those picks if he must and says self reflection needed.

 

-Monos: "Brandon Beane was never a scout, he was a salary cap operations type. He knows how to organize. I'm not saying they shouldn't have their jobs...the goal is for sustained success...and that's what the Bills have...I think the Bills need to understand, who is the trusted talent evaluator in that building? Who is making these calls in the first and second round? Where are the big physical freaks?"

 

-Monos on Buffalo's potential interest in a Myles Garrett trade: "You should want Myles Garrett. Go get him. It might help you win the Super Bowl. But that's lazy GM'ing. That's a lazy GM in my opinion. That's an easy one. The hard GM's are finding those first round." There was a discussion about NFL teams likely trying to replicate Philly's defensive approach after the Super Bowl by loading up on DL. But he says it's not like teams don't already try to do that. Buffalo has tried. They've drafted D-Line, and they took a big swing via free agency for Von Miller hoping it'd put them over the top and it backfired. 

 

-Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for bringing up the refs/officials before the Chiefs game and again afterward. He says it's loser talk. Dunne questions why they would even plant the seed of doubt in players' minds ahead of the game. Why let your players play the victim role? (Monos agreed.) 

 

-Monos criticizes the Bills' poor safeties, calling Bishop "a linebacker."

 

-Monos doesn't seem high on the Coleman pick and returned to his talking point about Buffalo not getting enough true difference makers at the top of the draft. "Guys that run 4.2's, they don't exist later in the draft. Coleman types exist later in the draft. You can get big jumpball wideouts that can't run. That's what the fourth round is for." 

 

-Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have ever won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." 

 

-Monos wonders if McDermott wrestles control of defensive play calling in playoff games. "I'd like to ask somebody on that staff if Sean does call any defenses in playoff games? I have a feeling there might be some...which is fine, that's your right to do whatever you want." 

 

-Dunne: "I think the GM understands everything should revolve around Josh Allen. I don't know if I can say the same about McDermott....he says complimentary things about him. When it comes to managing the game, what kind of game it's going to be, how the roster should be constructed, I'm not sure he sees it the same way as the GM. Gut feeling."

 

-Monos says he wouldn't pay Cook what he wants. 

Monos has been fair to Buffalo in the past and I don’t think he’s said anything too crazy.  I think Dunne has had an axe to grind with McDermott in the past.  Never got that sense from Monos.  
 

As far as why he said about Beane - he’s right.  There aren’t enough difference makers on the team.  Last season, I was indifferent on the Coleman pick.  This season, I’m less than encouraged.  He’s basically been the same player he was projected to be pre-draft.  Maybe a touch better but still not the answer we were looking for at WR.  
 

Jury is out on Bishop.  I think he’s played good so far and does have some upside.  
 

The line about “lazy GM’ing” is a joke though.  Plenty of SB contenders have traded for difference makers because they couldn’t draft one.  

Edited February 14 by JohnNord

[Ray Finkel]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Carter was inactive after the wrist injury. 

 

 

I believe Carter may be a guide player in this league if he stays healthy.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, JohnNord said:

Monos has been fair to Buffalo in the past and I don’t think he’s said anything too crazy

here.   I think has had an axe to grind with McDermott in the past.  Never got that sense from Monos.  
 

As far as why he said about Beane - he’s right.  There aren’t enough difference makers on the team.  Last season, I was indifferent on the Coleman pick.  This season, I’m less than encouraged.  He’s basically been the same player he was projected to be pre-draft.  Maybe a touch better but still not the answer we were looking for at WR.  
 

Jury is out on Bishop.  I think he’s played good so far and does have some upside.  
 

The line about “lazy GM’ing” is a joke though.  Plenty of SB contenders have traded for difference makers because they couldn’t draft one.  

Yeah - lazy is pretty relative - Myles Garrett went #1 overall. 

 

So only one team had a chance to get him. 

 

It's also not just about trusting your scouts - the Browns have 26 on their staff and they can't draft any difference makers. 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

35 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Because they read guys like Matt Harmon and Lance Zierlein who say - ehh he can't really separate so he needs to transition to the slot. 

 

And then you say - wait we already have Khalil Shakir for that. 

 

Then your GM trades with Kansas City and they take the fastest player in the history of the combine. 

 

And then your GM says he was disappointed with Keon after the wrist injury. 

 

What do you want fans to think? 

 

🤷‍♂️ 

 

I think it was simply we didn’t want a slow WR that couldn’t run routes in college.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I think it was simply we didn’t want a slow WR that couldn’t run routes in college.

He runs 4.64 unofficial in Attempt 1, 4.62 unofficial in Attempt 2. 

 

Official 4.61. 

 

Hopefully he is working out with Christian McCaffrey's track coach to get faster. 

 

Step One is to improve all facets of his speed and acceleration. 

[Ray Finkel]

23 minutes ago, DapperCam said:

Didn’t Buddy Nix basically force that pick anyway?

He said he was going to draft a QB no matter what before he retires.

[JGMcD2]

8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah - lazy is pretty relative - Myles Garrett went #1 overall. 

 

So only one team had a chance to get him. 

 

It's also not just about trusting your scouts - the Browns have 26 on their staff and they can't draft any difference makers. 

 

 

 

 

How many difference makers exist in the NFL? 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

44 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

I believe no coach and QB combo has won their 1st Super Bowl after 5 seasons together.

 

BTW, John Fox with the Broncos coached 4 seasons, won 4 division titles, won .720 of games, 1 Super Bowl appearance and was fired after year 4.  Gary Kubiak came in the next season and won the Super Bowl.

Only 4?

 

I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face, Sean McDermott will have to go backwards. Your example is perfect. Fox made the Super Bowl but then got upset at home in the playoffs.

 

Thats the type of thing that would get McDermott fired at this point.

[Jrb1979]

Just now, JGMcD2 said:

How many difference makers exist in the NFL? 

There must be quite a few cause the teams that have won the Super Bowl recently always seem to have a few on their roster. 

[Ray Finkel]

9 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah - lazy is pretty relative - Myles Garrett went #1 overall. 

 

So only one team had a chance to get him. 

 

It's also not just about trusting your scouts - the Browns have 26 on their staff and they can't draft any difference makers. 

 

 

 

 

I hope lazy GM finds a way to get Myles!

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Beane has a good team around him. It has been weakened some over the years as other teams take some of his guys.

 

And let’s not forget when McDermott was hired he was given the same power as a coach like Andy Reid. McDermott actually stepped back some a few years ago in the personnel department.

Well McDermott did start his NFL as a scouting coordinator so makes some sense. Toss in with Whaley fired right after the draft Terry might not have wanted us getting stuck with guys from the previous regime ties.

[Steptide]

Imo Beane and McDermott have made 2 really good 1st round picks - Allen and Tre White. That's litterally it. Nobody else has lived up to being drafted round 1 

[Aussie Joe]

6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Average at best. 

 

Oliver - He's been a starter since being drafted and earned a second contract. You always want more from him. B-

 

AJE - He had a disaster of a Combine with his 5.04 40-yard dash. So not surprising he had to drop weight right away and then turned into a rotational player. C

 

Rousseau - The best player on this list. 6'6" with real size and young. A

 

Elam - Flat out bust. No other way to put it. He's inactive all the time. F

 

Kincaid - Unfortunately there was run on WRs right before the Bills picked. It was always a weird fit with this "big slot WR" and Knox already under contract. For me, he's underwhelmed his entire time here. Always wished he was taller, stronger, faster. C

 

Coleman - He plays just like his Scouting Reports said he was. Maybe he was coming on with back to back good games against the Titans and Seahawks, but this ignores the 1-catch, 2-target red zone drop against the Dolphins. Down the stretch he was unusable. Allen would try a deep fade high and outside, otherwise nothing went his way. All you can hope is he is working non-stop this offseason on his speed. Right now? C?  

 

 

A = 4

B = 3

C = 2

D = 1

F = 0

 

Average = 2.17

 

Average as I went through this experiment. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your detailed thought out response …👍

 

Im not as high as you in these picks …. I would class these picks overall as below average …

 

Oliver was a Top 10 pick , and the other DTs that went later in the first round were better ….so you could say they missed here .. He is not a disaster by any means and is probably paid according to his abilities … he had a great 2023 …and for the first time this year …he showed up in the playoffs …. still …we need more as you say from what might be the only Top 10 guy they will have In the JA era ..

 

AJE - I really hate that they drafted him and made him drop weight …. Pick someone else if you gotta change the guy …rotational guy at Pick 54 ? Wouldn’t say it’s a win…

 

Rousseau .. yep the best guy on the list …. Didn’t make a murmur in the biggest game of the year though …no A grade from me …solid B+ though .. if they land a big name in the offseason … I think they chose not to pay him and let him go…

 

Elam-  not even worth commenting on 

 

Kincaid - the most disappointing guy on the team in 2024..in hindsight a luxury pick for Dorsey’s scheme …still too early to close the book …but needs a big improvement in 2025 

 

Coleman …. Not the pick I would have made… but I did see some potential before the injury ….he has got a long way to go though to justify the pick …

 

Well..that’s my opinion for what that’s worth ( exactly  nothing ) …. Hoping for better moving forward … 😎

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Well McDermott did start his NFL as a scouting coordinator so makes some sense. Toss in with Whaley fired right after the draft Terry might not have wanted us getting stuck with guys from the previous regime ties.

Who do you think signed Poyer and Hyde? Drafted Tre White, Matt Milano, and Dion Dawkins?

 

Beane was hired after.