Jim Monos w/ critical comments on Bills front office, coaching, roster moves

[GunnerBill]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Another thing I think is true. The Chiefs for whatever reason get up for the Bills like no other team. I don’t know if the Bills just believe the Chiefs are going to do the same stuff they did in the regular season, but they tend to save their best for the Bills playoff matchup.

 

 

I am definitely coming around to this idea. They ran five plays I believe against the Bills that the people who look at these things could find no evidence of them running at all in the 2024 regular season. And then zero that met that description vs the Eagles. Why would that be? I think there is two things:

 

1. I think familiarity. They play the Bills so often that they are worried about them cottoning on to certain tendencies etc. In the regular season game I commented on the fact that both teams did major tendency breaking on defense for example. 

2. I think Andy Reid considers the Bills their biggest rival. I remember an interview with Sir Alex Ferguson, the former Manchester United manager about the rivalry with Arsene Wenger's Arsenal in the late 90s early 00s and he admitted they prepared more for Arsenal than for Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern Munich etc in the big Champions League ties. The reason he said he thought they were the best team they played. Didn't matter than the trophy hauls might not have said that, Arsenal always got United's best shot because he saw them as the team he had to get past to keep the dynasty on the road. 

[Royale with Cheese]

On 2/18/2025 at 9:30 AM, FireChans said:

Almost every Bills first round pick being their desperate need that offseason is just a coincidence. 

There are usually more than one needs in every offseason lol.  BPA and need can go hand in hand.  Do you think we are taking a right tackle if that’s the BPA on the board?

 

So basically if the Bills draft an Edge rusher, DT, Corner, WR or Safety this year, you’re going to scream “need pick!”  You can make an argument that every single early draft pick is a need because they are drafting to improve a position or unit from every team.

 

I wonder if KC will draft a Center in the first round?  Maybe the Eagles draft a RB?  Maybe the Lions will draft a slot WR?

Edited Wednesday at 03:02 PM by Royale with Cheese

[The Jokeman]

10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

There are usually more than one need in every offseason lol.  BPA and need can go hand in hand.  Do you think we are taking a right tackle if that’s the BPA on the board?

 

So basically if the Bills draft an Edge rusher, DT, Corner, WR or Safety this year, you’re going to scream “need pick!”  You can make an argument that every single early draft pick is a need because they are drafting to improve a position or unit from every team.

 

I wonder if KC will draft a Center in the first round?  Maybe the Eagles draft a RB?  Maybe the Lions will draft a slot WR?

Or hopefully a QB like Dart falls to us and we can take him at #30 cuz you know BPA. 

[Mikie2times]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Yes! But they’ll say look at the QB’s in the other playoff games. 
 

Belichick has lost playoff games to Ryan Tannehill and Mark Sanchez. Andy Reid has lost playoff games to Jake Dellhome, Kerry Collins, and Brad Johnson.

Another thing I think is true. The Chiefs for whatever reason get up for the Bills like no other team. I don’t know if the Bills just believe the Chiefs are going to do the same stuff they did in the regular season, but they tend to save their best for the Bills playoff matchup.

 

I do feel like there’s something to them creating game winning plays off of plays from the first matchup. Also Mahomes seems to run more vs us in the playoffs. Mahomes running is what really wins them the game.

 

For example, first matchup Mahomes had zero rushes. AFC championship game he had 11 for 43 yards and 2 TDs.

 

I don't think they "get up" more. I think they save more for the playoffs. Which puts us at a strategic advantage in the regular season and a deficit in the postseason.  

 

We basically rolled out a man centered approach on defense in the regular season game this year. Regardless of Benford, they were VERY prepared for that look in the rematch. Look at the quick throws they used on the first drive they had. Then look at how they ran Mahomes in the playoffs really pushing the edges. They didn't try any of that in the regulars season game. The year prior which was a must win so I get it, but that is when we unleashed the RB passing game. Cook blew up in the first quarter. 

 

IF KC finds an edge to exploit, they aren't using it in the regular season game, we will.   

Edited Wednesday at 03:13 PM by Mikie2times

[SoTier]

On 2/14/2025 at 2:41 PM, DasNootz said:

Rarely does criticism come from someone who is doing better than you....

Monos was director of personnel for the Bills 2013-2017. Let's look at the track record:

2013: Ej Manuel, Robert Woods, Kiko, Marquis Goodwin, Duke Williams, Jonathan Meeks Dustin Hopkins, Chris Gragg
2014: Sammy Watkins, Cyry Kouandijo, Preston Brown, Ross Cockrell, Cyril Richardson, Randell Johnson, Seantrel Hendersen
2015: Ronald Darby, John Miller, Karlos Williams, Tony Steward, Nick O'Leary, Dezmin Lewis
2016: Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington, Cardale Jones, Jonathan Williams, Kolby Listree, Kevon Semour
2017: Tre White, Zay Jones, Dion Dawkins, Matt Milano, Natah Peterman, Tanner Vallejo

 

One good draft class in 5 tries - coincidently the first year Beane and McDermott were here with him.

 

 

 

Exactly right.  Monos was part of a failed regime, and McDermott and Beane have exposed how badly they failed.  Lookiing at just how they drafted in the first two rounds of their drafts exposes the failures of the Monos/Whaley regime.

 

Monos/Whaley's first and second round picks:

• 2013: #16 QB EJ Manuel , #41 WR Robert Woods), #46 LB Kiko Alonzo
• 2014: #4 WR Sammy Watkins, #44 OT Cyrus Kouandijo
• 2015: #50 DB Ronald Darby
• 2016: #19 DE Shaq Lawson, #41 LB Reggie Ragland

In 2015, Darby was runner up in DROY voting.

In 2014, Watkins had 982 yards.  In 2015 he had 1047 yards.  Playing with Mahomes in 2019, he had 673 yards.

 

2017 was clearly McDermott's draft.  While Monos and Whaley were still officially in their titles, McDermott selected the picks.  Whaley was fired immediately after the 2017 draft, and Monos was among the Bills staff who were let go by Beane after he was hired as GM.

 

Sean McDermott's first and second round draft picks:

2017: #27 DB Tre'Davious White, #37 WR Zay Jones, #63 LT Dion Dawkins

 

In 2017, White was 2nd in DROY voting.  In 2019, White was first team All Pro and 5th in DPOY voting.  In 2020, he was 2nd team All Pro.

From 2021 through 2024, Dawkins was been named to the PB 4 times.

 

Beane's first and second round draft picks:

• 2018 - #7 QB Josh Allen,  #16 LB Tremaine Edmunds
• 2019 - #9  DT Ed Oliver, #38 OG Cody Ford
• 2020 -#54 DE AJ Epenesa
• 2021 - #30 DE  Gregory Rousseau, #61 LB Boogie Basham
• 2022 - #23 CB Kaiir Elam, #63 RB James Cook

In 2024, after numerous PB and AP awards, Allen was named NFL MVP.

In 2019 and 2020, Edmunds was named to the PB.

In 2023 and 2024, Cook was named to the PB.  He also ran for 1000+ yards in both seasons.  He also scored 16 TDs in 2024.

 

Of course, Monos is going to dump on Beane and McDermott.  Bean and McDermott exposed the institutional incompentency of their predecessors.

Edited Wednesday at 05:53 PM by SoTier

[GASabresIUFan]

@SoTier good rundown.  Much nicer than my previous comments.

 

I don’t put much stock in the opinions of a former Bills’ exec from a failed administration who hasn’t sniffed an NFL job since.  

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

I don't think they "get up" more. I think they save more for the playoffs. Which puts us at a strategic advantage in the regular season and a deficit in the postseason.  

 

We basically rolled out a man centered approach on defense in the regular season game this year. Regardless of Benford, they were VERY prepared for that look in the rematch. Look at the quick throws they used on the first drive they had. Then look at how they ran Mahomes in the playoffs really pushing the edges. They didn't try any of that in the regulars season game. The year prior which was a must win so I get it, but that is when we unleashed the RB passing game. Cook blew up in the first quarter. 

 

IF KC finds an edge to exploit, they aren't using it in the regular season game, we will.   

 

They actually did do quite a lot different on defense in that regular season game. They played the most zone coverage they have ever played vs the Josh Allen Bills. Was that just to trial it? To throw us off the scent? Or because they thought it was a wrinkle they could exploit? Who knows? But they did. 

 

The interesting point about them running new stuff on offense vs us but then not vs the Eagles is interesting though. There are reasons that might be the case but I genuinely think one of them is they hugely respect and are wary of Buffalo. As you would expect. No team has beaten them more often

 

 

 

[Einstein]

6 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I don't think they "get up" more. I think they save more for the playoffs. Which puts us at a strategic advantage in the regular season and a deficit in the postseason.  

Meanwhile we have Dorsey, err I mean Brady, running the same plays in the same situation that we have run all year, in the AFCCG. 

I especially enjoyed watching him run the same QB sneak over and over and over again that KC was stuffing. And running the same 4th down mesh play all year.

[808]

15 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

Exactly right.  Monos was part of a failed regime, and McDermott and Beane have exposed how badly they failed.  Lookiing at just how they drafted in the first two rounds of their drafts exposes the failures of the Monos/Whaley regime.

 

Monos/Whaley's first and second round picks:

• 2013: #16 QB EJ Manuel , #41 WR Robert Woods), #46 LB Kiko Alonzo
• 2014: #4 WR Sammy Watkins, #44 OT Cyrus Kouandijo
• 2015: #50 DB Ronald Darby
• 2016: #19 DE Shaq Lawson, #41 LB Reggie Ragland

In 2015, Darby was runner up in DROY voting.

In 2014, Watkins had 982 yards.  In 2015 he had 1047 yards.  Playing with Mahomes in 2019, he had 673 yards.

 

2017 was clearly McDermott's draft.  While Monos and Whaley were still officially in their titles, McDermott selected the picks.  Whaley was fired immediately after the 2017 draft, and Monos was among the Bills staff who were let go by Beane after he was hired as GM.

 

Sean McDermott's first and second round draft picks:

2017: #27 DB Tre'Davious White, #37 WR Zay Jones, #63 LT Dion Dawkins

 

In 2017, White was 2nd in DROY voting.  In 2019, White was first team All Pro and 5th in DPOY voting.  In 2020, he was 2nd team All Pro.

From 2021 through 2024, Dawkins was been named to the PB 4 times.

 

Beane's first and second round draft picks:

• 2018 - #7 QB Josh Allen,  #16 LB Tremaine Edmunds
• 2019 - #9  DT Ed Oliver, #38 OG Cody Ford
• 2020 -#54 DE AJ Epenesa
• 2021 - #30 DE  Gregory Rousseau, #61 LB Boogie Basham
• 2022 - #23 CB Kaiir Elam, #63 RB James Cook

In 2024, after numerous PB and AP awards, Allen was named NFL MVP.

In 2019 and 2020, Edmunds was named to the PB.

In 2023 and 2024, Cook was named to the PB.  He also ran for 1000+ yards in both seasons.  He also scored 16 TDs in 2024.

 

Of course, Monos is going to dump on Beane and McDermott.  Bean and McDermott exposed the institutional incompentency of their predecessors.

Wasnt the ej pick made by buddy nix? 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, 808 said:

Wasnt the ej pick made by buddy nix? 

 

Technically, yes. In reality power had passed to Whaley. 

[QCity]

When you can't refute the message, attack the messenger.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

19 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

There are usually more than one needs in every offseason lol.  BPA and need can go hand in hand.  Do you think we are taking a right tackle if that’s the BPA on the board?

 

So basically if the Bills draft an Edge rusher, DT, Corner, WR or Safety this year, you’re going to scream “need pick!”  You can make an argument that every single early draft pick is a need because they are drafting to improve a position or unit from every team.

 

I wonder if KC will draft a Center in the first round?  Maybe the Eagles draft a RB?  Maybe the Lions will draft a slot WR?

Bpa definitely needs to be within reason for instance we had a need for a Safety in last years draft nearly everyone and there mother had Cooper DeJean rated higher then Coleman or Braden Fiske or TaVondre Sweat at DT but instead we went with the big slow Wr that probably would've fell to the 3rd or 4th rd because of slow 40 times. 

[GunnerBill]

34 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Bpa definitely needs to be within reason for instance we had a need for a Safety in last years draft nearly everyone and there mother had Cooper DeJean rated higher then Coleman or Braden Fiske or TaVondre Sweat at DT but instead we went with the big slow Wr that probably would've fell to the 3rd or 4th rd because of slow 40 times. 

 

Coleman wouldn't have dropped out of round 2 I don't think. I didn't like him as a prospect, but even I had a late 2nd on him. Those other guys were all higher and better prospects IMO. DeJean is a corner though. I know a lot of draft sites listed him as a safety, but he only ever took the odd snap at safety in college - he played corner and a bit of nickel and he has played entirely as a nickel in the NFL. I always thought he was a corner. 

[SoTier]

8 hours ago, 808 said:

Wasnt the ej pick made by buddy nix? 

 

So it might have been Monos/Nix.  Even under Nix, Whaley evaluated most of the talent.  As bad as Manuel was, I will acquit Monos/Nix/Whaley of being so incompetent as to pick Manuel in the first round because they all reported to Russ Brandon, and Brandon wanted a QB in the first round even though there were no QB prospects worth taking in the first round.  Ralph Wilson was dying, and the team was going to be sold, so Brandon wanted a full stadium in 2013 to demonstrate the team's profitability to prospective buyers.  He saw a first round QB as the best way to achieve that given how crappy the Bills had been of late. 

 

4 hours ago, QCity said:

When you can't refute the message, attack the messenger.

 

When the "message" is an opinion, the "messenger's" agenda matters, dude. 

 

"My dog is a German Short-haired Pointer" is a fact.   "German Short-haired Pointers are better than Dachsunds" is an opinion.   That I owned a GSP for 15 years and that I do not like ankle-biter dogs just might have a little something to do with my opinion.