Jim Monos w/ critical comments on Bills front office, coaching, roster moves

[balln]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Can be critical but you can't be too bad considering they have the 2nd best winning percentage in all of pro sports in the last 6 years only to the Chiefs.

 

No matter who you have on your team, it's very very hard to be that consistently good to great over that length of time.

 

And considering they have the best point differential by am almost unheard of 250 points over the 2nd place team over that time, hard to say a lot.

 

People who do are just looking for something to complain about.

 

Sure, we could use more top end talent, but so could most teams if we are being honest.

 

At the end of the day, they just need to figure it out on D in the key playoff games.

To this I’d say. Josh Allen. 
 

Edited Tuesday at 05:54 PM by balln

[DCofNC]

11 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Unless you know what the Bills board, you really don’t know if it was a need or BPA pick.  All the players listed above could very well have been there BPA when they were picking.

If they were, that’s even worse.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

8 hours ago, balln said:

To this I’d say. Josh Allen. 
 

They literally have a top 5 defense since 2017.

 

The Bills defense from 2017-2024 is ranked # 1 in yards, #2 in points, and #2 in yards/play.

Edited Wednesday at 02:21 AM by Buffalo_Stampede

[GunnerBill]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They literally have a top 5 defense since 2017.

 

The Bills defense from 2017-2024 is ranked # 1 in yards, #2 in points, and #2 in yards/play.

 

Take 2024 out it might be even better.

Edited Wednesday at 02:27 AM by GunnerBill

[Buffalo_Stampede]

10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Take 2024 out it might be even better.

They regress considerably in the playoffs though. But we sit here and talk about the Bills like they’re a bad team besides Allen. It’s not the case at all.

The Bills have had a good overall team. Team being the key word. Individual players may be lacking but they play as a cohesive unit.

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:38 AM by Buffalo_Stampede

[balln]

35 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They literally have a top 5 defense since 2017.

 

The Bills defense from 2017-2024 is ranked # 1 in yards, #2 in points, and #2 in yards/play.

None of those metrics ACTUALLY tells you how good their defense is. Need epa / dvoa metrics

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, balln said:

None of those metrics ACTUALLY tells you how good their defense is. Need epa / dvoa metrics

Those are good too. And yes those other stats do tell you. Yards alone doesn’t say much but yards and points together tell you a factual story.

Edited Wednesday at 02:47 AM by Buffalo_Stampede

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Saw this today. Allen currently sitting 57%. 😲

 

 

[Mikie2times]

On 2/14/2025 at 3:21 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Now look up how many coaches have won 5 straight division titles and were fired.

 

Out of curiosity, when you have Josh Allen at QB and face the below, what do you expect the outcome to be? It's silly for either side of the argument to keep pretending no argument exists. If you want to disagree, so be it, but valid points on each side. 

 

QB"s with at least 2 starts since 2020

 

Miami

Tua Tagovailoa

Jacoby Brissett

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Teddy Bridgewater

Skylar Thompson

Tyler Huntley

 

New York

Aaron Rodgers

Zach Wilson

Trevor Siemian

Tim Boyle

Mike White

Joe Flacco

Sam Darnold

 

New England 

Cam Newton

Drake Maye

Jacoby Brissett

Mac Jones

Bailey Zappe

11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw this today. Allen currently sitting 57%. 😲

 

 

Allen must be underperforming then 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

 

Out of curiosity, when you have Josh Allen at QB and face the below, what do you expect the outcome to be? It's silly for either side of the argument to keep pretending no argument exists. If you want to disagree, so be it, but valid points on each side. 

 

QB"s with at least 2 starts since 2020

 

Miami

Tua Tagovailoa

Jacoby Brissett

Ryan Fitzpatrick

Teddy Bridgewater

Skylar Thompson

Tyler Huntley

 

New York

Aaron Rodgers

Zach Wilson

Trevor Siemian

Tim Boyle

Mike White

Joe Flacco

Sam Darnold

 

New England 

Cam Newton

Drake Maye

Jacoby Brissett

Mac Jones

Bailey Zappe

Many experts didn’t pick the Bills to win the AFC East the last 2 years but they did.

[MiracleAtRich1393]

20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Saw this today. Allen currently sitting 57%. 😲

 

 

What are their playoff defenses ranked?

[Mikie2times]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Many experts didn’t pick the Bills to win the AFC East the last 2 years but they did.

In hindsight do you feel the experts were totally off base or we overachieved? 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

6 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

What are their playoff defenses ranked?

They’ve definitely allowed too many points vs the Chiefs. That’s a good argument for their failure I guess.

[Brand J]

15 minutes ago, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

What are their playoff defenses ranked?

That’s the crux of it right there. I don’t care how the Bills defense ranked at the end of the regular season. They always folded like origami in the playoffs. Always. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

14 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

In hindsight do you feel the experts were totally off base or we overachieved? 

I always said McDermott would’ve still won a couple division titles even without Allen, that’s what I think of the division we play in.

But they’ve also beat the Chiefs 4 straight times in the regular season so I don't think the Bills are only strong due to a weak division.

 

We use the Chiefs playoff losses to diminish everything good the Bills have done. I don’t understand why. When we were losing we made excuses for why we were losing. Now when we are winning we make excuses for why we are winning.

 

You have a team that has been successful on offense because of Josh Allen and successful on defense because of Sean McDermott. It’s that simple. They’ve been a very good team.  
 

We can talk playoff losses to the Chiefs and Bengals all day if we want but let’s not make it more than it is.

[OldNMBillsFan]

7 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They regress considerably in the playoffs though. But we sit here and talk about the Bills like they’re a bad team besides Allen. It’s not the case at all.

The Bills have had a good overall team. Team being the key word. Individual players may be lacking but they play as a cohesive unit.

 

Since 2019 the Bills have played 9 playoff games that were not against KC, allowing only 19.2 points per game and having a record of 7-2.

Since 2019 the Bills have played 4 playoff games against KC allowing a whopping 35 Points per game and an 0-4 record.

The problem with the Defense is against only 1 team.

It's significant, over a 15.8 point game swing. 

Edited Wednesday at 10:31 AM by OldNMBillsFan

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

In hindsight do you feel the experts were totally off base or we overachieved? 

 

I think in 2023 they were just off base and in actual fact the Bills probably underachieved by a win or two. In 2024 I think they were possibly too high on our divisional opponents, but I think they were pretty much right on the Bills and we probably overachieved by a win or two (especially if you consider they almost certainly win week 18 if they needed the game). 

[OldNMBillsFan]

7 hours ago, balln said:

None of those metrics ACTUALLY tells you how good their defense is. Need epa / dvoa metrics

Nonsense, To win a game you need to score more points than the opponent. A defense that is second in the league with fewest points allowed since 2019 is going to win a lot of games with an average offence. And win many more with a stellar offence.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

26 minutes ago, OldNMBillsFan said:

Since 2019 the Bills have played 9 playoff games that were not against KC, allowing only 19.2 points per game and having a record of 7-2.

Since 2019 the Bills have played 4 playoff games against KC allowing a whopping 35 Points per game and an 0-4 record.

The problem with the Defense is against only 1 team.

It's a significant, over a 15.8 point game swing. 

Yes! But they’ll say look at the QB’s in the other playoff games. 
 

Belichick has lost playoff games to Ryan Tannehill and Mark Sanchez. Andy Reid has lost playoff games to Jake Dellhome, Kerry Collins, and Brad Johnson.

Another thing I think is true. The Chiefs for whatever reason get up for the Bills like no other team. I don’t know if the Bills just believe the Chiefs are going to do the same stuff they did in the regular season, but they tend to save their best for the Bills playoff matchup.

 

I do feel like there’s something to them creating game winning plays off of plays from the first matchup. Also Mahomes seems to run more vs us in the playoffs. Mahomes running is what really wins them the game.

 

For example, first matchup Mahomes had zero rushes. AFC championship game he had 11 for 43 yards and 2 TDs.

 

Edited Wednesday at 10:41 AM by Buffalo_Stampede

[Einstein]

10 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

They literally have a top 5 defense since 2017.

 

The Bills defense from 2017-2024 is ranked # 1 in yards, #2 in points, and #2 in yards/play.

 

Smoke and mirrors, and I mean it.

 

Those defenses were very good in the regular season and AWFUL in the playoffs.

 

2 hours ago, OldNMBillsFan said:

Since 2019 the Bills have played 9 playoff games that were not against KC, allowing only 19.2 points per game and having a record of 7-2.

 

Again, smoke and mirrors.

 

In those 9 other playoff games that were not against KC, we played Blake Bortles, Skyler Thompson, Mac Jones, Mason Rudolph, Rookie Bo Nix, Playoff Lamar, etc.

 

The only great QB we played in those 9 other games was Joe Burrow and we gave up 27 points.

 

We have had one of the easiest stretches of wildcard play in history.

Edited Wednesday at 12:48 PM by Einstein