Jim Monos w/ critical comments on Bills front office, coaching, roster moves

[boyst]

6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

McDermott absolutely ran the 2017 draft.  White and Dawkins were his picks.   Whaley and Monos were absolute clowns.  Whaley should have spent more time trying to find a QB and less time with the owners daughter.

Whaley wasn't on the owners daughter. It was some chick from Grand Island and a few others. Dude was baaaaddddddddd

[Jrb1979]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Are they good points because they're good, or you just want to agree with them?

Its both. I do agree with most of what he said and he made some really good points. I take it you didn't read it?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

35 minutes ago, wppete said:

They hit the lottery. Lucky guys. A child could make that pick. It more an indictment on Cleveland and the Jets. Thats why their front offices and coaches got fired a long time ago. McBeane didn’t do anything special. Just got lucky. 

The pick was booed by Bills fans.

[davefan66]

Many teams would be better if they drafted a generational talent.  
 

Beane and McD have done a great job fielding teams that have done great things.  Been a great ride and expect even more great things from them.

[Jrb1979]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

When I saw you call drafting Josh Allen "lucky" and that a child could have done that, your credibility went out the window 

 

You are crusading for the Bills to clean house.

I said nothing about drafting Josh as lucky.  That was someone else.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Is this supposed to be a mic drop argument?

 

Think he still goes as Pick 64th overall in a redraft? 

[BarleyNY]

23 hours ago, beebe said:

Monos was director of personnel for the Bills 2013-2017. Pretty good listen for those interested (this podcast is non paywall): https://www.golongtd.com/p/pod-state-of-the-buffalo-bills-with

 

-Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for the 1st and 2nd round selections they've made. Says they've done much better in the mid-rounds but says the 1st and 2nd rounds are the GM and the coach picking, and they simply haven't been good enough there. He thinks Beane needs to defer to someone else if need be to make those picks if he must and says self reflection needed.

 

-Monos: "Brandon Beane was never a scout, he was a salary cap operations type. He knows how to organize. I'm not saying they shouldn't have their jobs...the goal is for sustained success...and that's what the Bills have...I think the Bills need to understand, who is the trusted talent evaluator in that building? Who is making these calls in the first and second round? Where are the big physical freaks?"

 

-Monos on Buffalo's potential interest in a Myles Garrett trade: "You should want Myles Garrett. Go get him. It might help you win the Super Bowl. But that's lazy GM'ing. That's a lazy GM in my opinion. That's an easy one. The hard GM's are finding those first round." There was a discussion about NFL teams likely trying to replicate Philly's defensive approach after the Super Bowl by loading up on DL. But he says it's not like teams don't already try to do that. Buffalo has tried. They've drafted D-Line, and they took a big swing via free agency for Von Miller hoping it'd put them over the top and it backfired. 

 

-Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for bringing up the refs/officials before the Chiefs game and again afterward. He says it's loser talk. Dunne questions why they would even plant the seed of doubt in players' minds ahead of the game. Why let your players play the victim role? (Monos agreed.) 

 

-Monos criticizes the Bills' poor safeties, calling Bishop "a linebacker."

 

-Monos doesn't seem high on the Coleman pick and returned to his talking point about Buffalo not getting enough true difference makers at the top of the draft. "Guys that run 4.2's, they don't exist later in the draft. Coleman types exist later in the draft. You can get big jumpball wideouts that can't run. That's what the fourth round is for." 

 

-Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have ever won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." 

 

-Monos wonders if McDermott wrestles control of defensive play calling in playoff games. "I'd like to ask somebody on that staff if Sean does call any defenses in playoff games? I have a feeling there might be some...which is fine, that's your right to do whatever you want." 

 

-Dunne: "I think the GM understands everything should revolve around Josh Allen. I don't know if I can say the same about McDermott....he says complimentary things about him. When it comes to managing the game, what kind of game it's going to be, how the roster should be constructed, I'm not sure he sees it the same way as the GM. Gut feeling."

 

-Monos says he wouldn't pay Cook what he wants. 

Glad someone is bringing up all of this stuff. I agree with all of it. Heck, I’ve already said almost all of it. 

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, thenorthremembers said:

McDermott absolutely ran the 2017 draft.  White and Dawkins were his picks.   Whaley and Monos were absolute clowns.  Whaley should have spent more time trying to find a QB and less time with the owners daughter.

 

Whaley was only retained that draft to keep him from taking the Bills draft info to another team.

16 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

I said nothing about drafting Josh as lucky.  That was someone else.

My apologies, the correct.

[LabattBlue]

56 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Further, did you also forget that the Bills made TWO trades to get up to #7 to draft Allen? Luck had nothing to do with it. Brandon Beane pulled a real-life "Draft Day: the Movie" to get our franchise QB. Too suggest anything less is hilarious.

They can profess how Josh was their target all along, but there was no guarantee that he wasn’t getting picked somewhere in the first 6 picks…so yes they were somewhat “lucky” he was still available after 6 selections were made. 

Edited February 15 by LabattBlue

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

They can profess how Josh was their target all along, but there was no guarantee that he wasn’t getting picked somewhere in the first 6 picks…so yes they were somewhat “lucky” he was still available after 6 selections were made. 

 

True, but the insinuation was that Allen was the obvious pick which he wasn't but for a few draft gurus like Mel Kiper.

[thenorthremembers]

56 minutes ago, boyst said:

Whaley wasn't on the owners daughter. It was some chick from Grand Island and a few others. Dude was baaaaddddddddd

No the owners daughter was all about him.   He made way too many appearances on her social media.  

1 hour ago, FLFan said:

Perhaps you have selective memory. Monos was widely panned as a clown when he was here, as was Whaley.  

Thats the point I was making. 

[Donuts and Doritos]

2 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

Most are accurate. IMO most here look at who said it and don't read it. The guy was a failure with the Bills so he has no idea what he's talking about and he has an axe to grind. 

Read it. Sure, many points are good. Drafting rounds 1 & 2 haven't been good enough, thank you Capt. Obvious. Questionable whether McD can get it done at this point. Already heard his good points from Joe Marino, Buffalo Plus, Cover 1, & discussed on this board (doubts about McD & Beane threads). I have been aware of & agreed w/ those points well before reading this. But it's also a fact the guy was a failure here & was fired by McD/Beane. So it's okay to read what he says with scepticism for the source/motives & still agree with the points. 2 things can be true. 

[SoTier]

On 2/14/2025 at 2:19 PM, T.E. said:

There were multiple drought rosters that were better than the current Bills one, but simply lacked the QB. 

 

In what alternative universe did these Drought era "rosters that were better than the current Bills one, but simply lacked the QB" exist?  

 

 

 

Edited February 15 by SoTier

[ghostwriter]

Say what you want, but the way Beane aggressively traded up for Josh Allen is enough to cover his sins but I agree with Monos to a degree.

[5ths the charm]

6 hours ago, davefan66 said:

Many teams would be better if they drafted a generational talent.  
 

Beane and McD have done a great job fielding teams that have done great things.  Been a great ride and expect even more great things from them.

Other than a few picks (like Josh) most if the 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks have been mediocre to poor.  That's on Beane.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

If people wonder why I defend Sean McDermott. Here’s Whaley and Jim Monos to tell you why.

 

Sean McDermott built everything. King McDermott. I’ve been saying it for a while. I never knew this video existed.
 

Listen at 1:15 in. Monos talks about McDermott tearing everything down. It’s relevant today as McDermott just fired Eric Ciano who was hired during the Whaley/Monos era.
 

 

[TBBills Fan]

Monos criticizing Beane is like me criticizing the guy ex wife #3 married after me

 

I mean, I could, but it's not a good look

 

I mean they popped out 4 kids, are still together and seem happy, so it just looks like sour grapes

Edited February 16 by TBBills Fan

[5ths the charm]

On 2/14/2025 at 1:49 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I do think people (me included) are a little unfair to Beane. He has hit on a lot of great draft picks, including early round ones. We just tend to dwell on the not-so-good picks.

 

Allen, Tre, Edmunds, Dion, Oliver, Rousseau, AJE. All first and second round picks who I think panned out very well. 

Allen and Dion yes, Tre would've if not for injury,  Edmunds is all potential but not a difference maker, Oliver, Rousseau and AJ? Second rounders at best.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

3 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

Monos criticizing Beane is like me criticizing the guy ex wife #3 married after me

 

I mean, I could, but it's not a good look

 

I mean they popped out 4 kids, are still together and seem happy, so it just looks like sour grapes

Watch the video above I just posted from years ago.

[TBBills Fan]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Watch the video above I just posted from years ago.

I did.  And i would have blown it up too.  And it has worked.  This franchise is no longer a joke but one that is a perennial contender that is considered by most to be one of the best run organizations in the league