beebe Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) Monos was director of personnel for the Bills 2013-2017. Pretty good listen for those interested (this podcast is non paywall): https://www.golongtd.com/p/pod-state-of-the-buffalo-bills-with -Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for the 1st and 2nd round selections they've made. Says they've done much better in the mid-rounds but says the 1st and 2nd rounds are the GM and the coach picking, and they simply haven't been good enough there. He thinks Beane needs to defer to someone else if need be to make those picks if he must and says self reflection needed. -Monos: "Brandon Beane was never a scout, he was a salary cap operations type. He knows how to organize. I'm not saying they shouldn't have their jobs...the goal is for sustained success...and that's what the Bills have...I think the Bills need to understand, who is the trusted talent evaluator in that building? Who is making these calls in the first and second round? Where are the big physical freaks?" -Monos on Buffalo's potential interest in a Myles Garrett trade: "You should want Myles Garrett. Go get him. It might help you win the Super Bowl. But that's lazy GM'ing. That's a lazy GM in my opinion. That's an easy one. The hard GM's are finding those first round." There was a discussion about NFL teams likely trying to replicate Philly's defensive approach after the Super Bowl by loading up on DL. But he says it's not like teams don't already try to do that. Buffalo has tried. They've drafted D-Line, and they took a big swing via free agency for Von Miller hoping it'd put them over the top and it backfired. -Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for bringing up the refs/officials before the Chiefs game and again afterward. He says it's loser talk. Dunne questions why they would even plant the seed of doubt in players' minds ahead of the game. Why let your players play the victim role? (Monos agreed.) -Monos criticizes the Bills' poor safeties, calling Bishop "a linebacker." -Monos doesn't seem high on the Coleman pick and returned to his talking point about Buffalo not getting enough true difference makers at the top of the draft. "Guys that run 4.2's, they don't exist later in the draft. Coleman types exist later in the draft. You can get big jumpball wideouts that can't run. That's what the fourth round is for." -Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have ever won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." -Monos wonders if McDermott wrestles control of defensive play calling in playoff games. "I'd like to ask somebody on that staff if Sean does call any defenses in playoff games? I have a feeling there might be some...which is fine, that's your right to do whatever you want." -Dunne: "I think the GM understands everything should revolve around Josh Allen. I don't know if I can say the same about McDermott....he says complimentary things about him. When it comes to managing the game, what kind of game it's going to be, how the roster should be constructed, I'm not sure he sees it the same way as the GM. Gut feeling." -Monos says he wouldn't pay Cook what he wants. Edited February 14 by beebe 22 2 2 1 8 3 7 10 Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Monos and Dunne are buddies. No particularly surprising things here though and on a lot of the personnel takes I agree with him. 11 1 Quote
MJS Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Seems like they are just saying all the normal talking points and speculative criticisms. Alright. 2 5 Quote
JP51 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 I dont have a ton of disagreements with what he is saying... 1 16 2 Quote
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 14 Posted February 14 I wish I could disagree but ….. 8 1 4 1 2 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted February 14 Posted February 14 I just wish I had the chance to sit down with McDermott, have a couple of beers and convince him to embrace the big sloppies at DT 3 3 1 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted February 14 Posted February 14 "-Monos criticizes Beane/McDermott for bringing up the refs/officials before the Chiefs game and again afterward. He says it's loser talk." ooof. 4 Quote
WNYFAN1 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Honestly, this all sounds just about right to me. How much of the success of Beane/McDermott is just getting lucky with Allen? 8 1 4 1 6 2 Quote
Jrb1979 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have only won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." That quote is the one that many dismiss a lot. 1 1 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 14 Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said: Honestly, this all sounds just about right to me. How much of the success of Beane/McDermott is just getting lucky with Allen? Makes you wonder. 1 1 Quote
Process Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) Didn't listen but read your summary and yea, there's not much to say. If you want to sum up why this team has zero Superbowls it's very simple...Coleman, Kincaid, Oliver, Greg and Elam. Can throw in AJE and Basham. Even Singletary and Moss since third round is pretty high for RBs. We don't even know what we have in Cole and Carter because they spent most of the year sitting on the bench. Zero elite players or difference makers. There's no sugarcoating or debate, Beane has been a massive failure with early draft picks. Edited February 14 by Process 16 11 4 2 Quote
bills6969 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Wait - was this guy head of player personnel when we drafted EJ manual in the first round? If so, no credibility 6 4 3 5 7 Quote
KentuckyBillsFan Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Beane's failures in the early round are why we can't get over the hump. This team doesn't have enough high end talent. It's also been hamstrung by bad contracts given out by Beane. 3 5 Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted February 14 Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said: Honestly, this all sounds just about right to me. How much of the success of Beane/McDermott is just getting lucky with Allen? Almost all, in my opinion. I think both would have been fired long ago had they not drafted Allen. 1 8 2 Quote
Billsflyer12 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: Dunne noted that McDermott is entering his 9th year and only three coaches ever - Tom Landry, Hank Stram, Bill Cowher - have only won Super Bowls that deep into their tenure with an organization. "Even Andy Reid had to leave Philly and draft Mahomes before he got his first ring." That quote is the one that many dismiss a lot. And all 3 of those coaches had made a prior Super Bowl apperance before finally winning one. McDermmot is now the longest tenured coach with 1 team to have never made a Super Bowl appearance in NFL history. Edited February 14 by Billsflyer12 2 1 2 Quote
JGMcD2 Posted February 14 Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: And all 3 of those coaches had made a prior Super Bowl apperance before finally winning one. McDermmot is now the longest tenured coach with 1 team to have never made a Super Bowl appearance in NFL history. Umm, yeah this isn’t true. Double check wherever you’re getting your information from. Quote
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted February 14 Posted February 14 So a guy who was part and parcel of the drought is critical of the 2nd most successful regime in the franchise's 60 year history. OK. 12 1 4 4 7 2 Quote
Low Positive Posted February 14 Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: And all 3 of those coaches had made a prior Super Bowl apperance before finally winning one. McDermmot is now the longest tenured coach with 1 team to have never made a Super Bowl appearance in NFL history. Marvin Lewis coached in Cincinnati for 15 seasons without winning a playoff game. 1 3 1 Quote
Back2Buff Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Pretty spot on. I have been disappointed that there has been no change in the front office. Going into this draft with the same group that drafted Elam, Kincaid, Coleman and Bishop in the first two rounds is just throwing away another draft. 1 Quote
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