Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 15 Posted February 15 (edited) it's somewhat reassuring that there are still some decent, honorable conservatives. But are there enough? https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/why-the-budding-trump-doj-scandal-is-a-big-deal/ar-AA1z7cvO Edited February 15 by Joe Ferguson forever
sherpa Posted February 15 Posted February 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: which maga policies do you oppose? i don't recall seeing one here. Sure. First, I will admit that when I see the term "maga," which is clearly a pejorative when used here, I don't pay much attention to the post. If you are asking about Trump's stuff, glad to respond. I don't think his Russia/Ukraine thing is correct. I don't think his no tax on tips thing is desirable, not because it's a bad idea but because it makes tip jobs more competitive than non tip jobs that pay about the same, and some of those are extremely valuable. I'm not a fan of some of the tariffs, though some are absolutely justified. I have no problem with his actions re the Justice Dept., which has become an arm of the Dem party with gross impropriety, but I don't want him screwing around with the CIA, which I know something about. My problem with you, and that knucklehead that never shuts up about him here, is that you join the media in posting absolute bullstuff. He never said what you have stated regarding good people with regard to white supremacists and neo nazis, and it didn't matter to your group when his actual quote was placed in evidence. That is total nonsense and gross, intentional ignorance/lying. My issue with Trump is that he is not a leader. He uses the power in his grasp to get done what he wants, which is usually a good idea. What he doesn't do is have the leadership ability to recruit more folks to his side. Reagan had that. George Bush had that. Clinton had it to some extent after he gave up after the debacle in 92, and the hiring of David Gergen. That skill leads to unification, and he doesn't care about that. Trump will never be a recruiter based on leadership. Still, there is no doubt that major change is justified, in the handling of the DOD, our international agreements, ie., NATO and the UN, and a host of other things that have been totally screwed up and become jobs programs for useless people. Edited February 15 by sherpa 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 15 Posted February 15 15 minutes ago, sherpa said: Sure. First, I will admit that when I see the term "maga," which is clearly a pejorative when used here, I don't pay much attention to the post. If you are asking about Trump's stuff, glad to respond. I don't think his Russia/Ukraine thing is correct. I don't think his no tax on tips thing is desirable, not because it's a bad idea but because it makes tip jobs more competitive than non tip jobs that pay about the same, and some of those are extremely valuable. I'm not a fan of some of the tariffs, though some are absolutely justified. I have no problem with his actions re the Justice Dept., which has become an arm of the Dem party with gross impropriety, but I don't want him screwing around with the CIA, which I know something about. My problem with you, and that knucklehead that never shuts up about him here, is that you join the media in posting absolute bullstuff. He never said what you have stated regarding good people with regard to white supremacists and neo nazis, and it didn't matter to your group when his actual quote was placed in evidence. That is total nonsense and gross, intentional ignorance/lying. My issue with Trump is that he is not a leader. He uses the power in his grasp to get done what he wants, which is usually a good idea. What he doesn't do is have the leadership ability to recruit more folks to his side. Reagan had that. George Bush had that. Clinton had it to some extent after he gave up after the debacle in 92, and the hiring of David Gergen. Trump will never be a recruiter based on leadership. Still, there is no doubt that major change is justified, in the handling of the DOD, our international agreements, ie., NATO and the UN, and a host of other things that have been totally screwed up and become jobs programs for useless people. I appreciate the answer. We should agree to fundamentally disagree. 1
sherpa Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I appreciate the answer. We should agree to fundamentally disagree. Disregarding and misstating words that were actually said an on recorded is not a fundamental disagreement. It is deliberate lying. Fundamental disagreement is like that AOC lune posting a video of saying Elon Musk is an idiot, as she has done in the last day. Like him or hate him, he is not an idiot. Her claim was becasue he has young folks in his group looking at stuff, which she claims does not qualify them. Turns out, one of these "young ignorant" people just used AI to decode a script from the eruption of Pompeii, 2000 years ago. So, in your bullpen you have a bartender from the Bronx criticizing this kid genius. Does that concern you? Do you think the rest of the country is confident of the party that pukes this out? 2 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 15 Posted February 15 20 minutes ago, sherpa said: Disregarding and misstating words that were actually said an on recorded is not a fundamental disagreement. It is deliberate lying. Fundamental disagreement is like that AOC lune posting a video of saying Elon Musk is an idiot, as she has done in the last day. Like him or hate him, he is not an idiot. Her claim was becasue he has young folks in his group looking at stuff, which she claims does not qualify them. Turns out, one of these "young ignorant" people just used AI to decode a script from the eruption of Pompeii, 2000 years ago. So, in your bullpen you have a bartender from the Bronx criticizing this kid genius. Does that concern you? Do you think the rest of the country is confident of the party that pukes this out? I admire AOC. She actually is concerned with improving the future for her constituents, many of whom are working class. I didn't lie about trump's statements after Charlottesville. But we surely disagree on the intended meaning of his comments. So where are you on the letter to Bove by the asst. US attorney. the thread topic is Eric Adams. You never answered. Not interested?
JDHillFan Posted February 15 Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: She actually is concerned with improving the future for her constituents, many of whom are working class. Do you recall when AOC got in the way of Amazon and thousands of jobs? Cuomo was none too happy about that. Seems like a fair number of her working class constituents would have benefited.
sherpa Posted February 15 Posted February 15 13 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I didn't lie about trump's statements after Charlottesville. But we surely disagree on the intended meaning of his comments. Fatal. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 15 Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, sherpa said: Fatal. Eric adams? 13 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Do you recall when AOC got in the way of Amazon and thousands of jobs? Cuomo was none too happy about that. Seems like a fair number of her working class constituents would have benefited. https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/1/28/why-aoc-was-right-about-hq2
JDHillFan Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Eric adams? https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/1/28/why-aoc-was-right-about-hq2 Left wing propaganda organization. Knew you would run to them.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Left wing propaganda organization. Knew you would run to them. Rebut the argument, not the source.
JDHillFan Posted February 15 Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Rebut the argument, not the source. I notice you did not rebut the argument but instead linked to an article from a “progressive” think tank. Cuomo rebutted the argument. He speaks for me on the matter. If you want to believe driving thousands of jobs away is smart, have at it.
sherpa Posted February 15 Posted February 15 35 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I admire AOC. Admire her all you want, but keep her and her idiocy away from anything that effects my family or my country. She is a full blown idiot. 1
BillsFanNC Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Again Quack triples down. He knows what the orange dude said. But that's meaningless, Quack knows what he meant. 1
JDHillFan Posted February 15 Posted February 15 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: Again Quack triples down. He knows what the orange dude said. But that's meaningless, Quack knows what he meant. It’s really a weird thing. It’s ok to hate Trump and spend 4-8 years raging about him. There’s enough material there to do it in a sincere way. Why the need to lie over and over? Maybe Susan Collins has the answer to that. 1 1
Westside Posted February 15 Posted February 15 19 hours ago, 4th&long said: This country is *****en corrupt. It was bad before it's even worse under trump. If I was a foreign country there is no way I would trust the united States. Damn, stop being a little B word. Grow up and stop living off the public dole.
4th&long Posted February 15 Posted February 15 29 minutes ago, Westside said: Damn, stop being a little B word. Grow up and stop living off the public dole. Are you serious? I'm laughing at you girls all day long.
B-Man Posted February 15 Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Rebut the argument, not the source. OH MY GOD THE IRONY. How did you not burst into flames ? This is all you, Frankie, Tibsy and the others do. 🤣 1
B-Man Posted Tuesday at 02:36 PM Posted Tuesday at 02:36 PM Note that she didn't even contemplate this when he was indicted for corruption for being on the Turkish payroll. Only when he agreed to cooperate with the enforcement of federal law. If Eric Adams Is Removed as NYC Mayor, We All Know This Was the Reason Townhall, by Matt Vespa New York City Mayor Eric Adams faced a slew of resignations this week. It’s called into question whether he can govern the city, which is why Gov. Kathy Hochul is holding a series of meetings on the subject. It could end with her removing Adams from office, though the mayor said he isn’t going anywhere.Just four days ago, it was reported that Hochul isn’t rushing to decide on Adams, even though the circumstances surrounding the Department of Justice dropping their case against Mr. Adams has reportedly shaken Hochul. Still, we know it's all an act: As New York City descended into a full-blown crisis of confidence in Mayor Eric Adams this week, alarmed civic leaders and elected officials turned the pressure up on Gov. Kathy Hochul to invoke her authority to remove him from office. They argued that the extraordinary step had become necessary after the prosecutor overseeing a federal corruption case against Mr. Adams said on Thursday that the mayor and the Justice Department had struck a corrupt bargain to shield him from further prosecution. The prosecutor resigned rather than ratify the deal. Ms. Hochul, a Democrat, called the allegations “extremely concerning and serious,” and was soliciting views from powerful fellow Democrats and her closest advisers. Of course, the now-ex-prosecutor overseeing Adams’ case would feel that way. If she goes through with this ploy, however, it’s pretty clear that Hochul will remove Adams not over administrative and legal matters but because the mayor is working with Trump border czar Tom Homan to deport illegal aliens. Was Hochul considering this 'dump Adams' option when the DOJ filed corruption charges against him? The answer would be 'no' https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/02/18/ny-gov-seriously-consieering-removing-mayor-eric-adams-and-the-reason-is-beyond-transparent-n2652385
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