Bill from NYC Posted February 14 Posted February 14 15 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: You're probably right. He did last 10 years in the league somehow. My take is probably more emotional than objective. I just remember the frustration of him looking like a human turnstile. He was pretty bad on the Bills but somehow decent on the Vikings iirc. 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted February 14 Posted February 14 20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: You're probably right. He did last 10 years in the league somehow. My take is probably more emotional than objective. I just remember the frustration of him looking like a human turnstile. I know I already mentioned Cornell Green as a terrible player. Other offensive linemen who were considerably worse than Lacina, were Mike Williams, Langston Walker, Derrick Dockery & Joe Panos. 2 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted February 14 Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: I know I already mentioned Cornell Green as a terrible player. Other offensive linemen who were considerably worse than Lacina, were Mike Williams, Langston Walker, Derrick Dockery & Joe Panos. I don't have a good memory, but you make me wish it was worse because, unfortunately, I remember all those guys. 1 Quote
Old Coot Posted February 14 Posted February 14 This is a tough question to answer. So many players are worthy of consideration. 2 Quote
Rigotz Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Personally, I factor 3 things into "worst Bills player" 1) What was the investment made in them? 2) How did they play while on the Bills? 3) Did they have any success for another team? I'm seeing a lot of "Maybin" and "Peterman" answers. Maybin had some success on the Jets and Peterman at least was in the league for a while... and was a 5th round pick. To me, there's only one answer: Mike Williams of the 2002 draft. #4 overall pick. Terrible for 3.5 years before the Bills gave up on him. No other team gave him another chance for 4 full years after that. Then played half a season (terribly) at a different position for one team. Then done. That's pretty unprecedented. #4 overall pick to nobody willing to give him a shot, he was so bad. 4 1 Quote
Gugny Posted February 14 Posted February 14 2 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: Did TUH-rod steal your lunch money? Maybe your girlfriend? A lot of hostility towards a generally good guy and quarterback. Not really his fault that he was a victim of “The Peter Principle” 😂 Hits of what? Acid? Generally good guys don’t whip out the race card. He’s a dick. He’s a horrible QB. He’s never made any team better in his entire career. He is Doug Flutie 2.0. Quote
DeltaDigital Posted February 14 Posted February 14 3 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said: Aaron Maybin immediately belongs on the list because he was a high draft pick and basically even every fan knew what the right pick was, but Bills still drafted the bust instead for one reason or another🤷🏻♂️. Orakpo was such an obviously better player/pick A couple other all time obvious-even-to-casual-fans drafting blunders: -James Hardy over Desean Jackson -Cody Ford over DK Metcalf -Torrell Troupe over Rob Gronkowski whitner over ngata Coleman over Dejean The list is absolutely endless. Quote
Ned Flanders Posted February 14 Posted February 14 OJ's driver: "My name is AC, you know who I am goddamnit." 1 Quote
DeltaDigital Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Personally, I factor 3 things into "worst Bills player" 1) What was the investment made in them? 2) How did they play while on the Bills? 3) Did they have any success for another team? I'm seeing a lot of "Maybin" and "Peterman" answers. Maybin had some success on the Jets and Peterman at least was in the league for a while... and was a 5th round pick. To me, there's only one answer: Mike Williams of the 2002 draft. #4 overall pick. Terrible for 3.5 years before the Bills gave up on him. No other team gave him another chance for 4 full years after that. Then played half a season (terribly) at a different position for one team. Then done. That's pretty unprecedented. #4 overall pick to nobody willing to give him a shot, he was so bad. "for the bills" is the only reason its maybin... the jets got what they could out of him sending him on what were essentially corner blitzes... IIRC mike williams didnt hold out like maybin.... but this IS a solid argument... Williams/Maybin 1a/1b ? deal? Edited February 14 by DeltaDigital 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) There were so many misses during the drought years. Maybin in for one. Edited February 14 by machine gun kelly Quote
The Jokeman Posted February 14 Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Personally, I factor 3 things into "worst Bills player" 1) What was the investment made in them? 2) How did they play while on the Bills? 3) Did they have any success for another team? I'm seeing a lot of "Maybin" and "Peterman" answers. Maybin had some success on the Jets and Peterman at least was in the league for a while... and was a 5th round pick. To me, there's only one answer: Mike Williams of the 2002 draft. #4 overall pick. Terrible for 3.5 years before the Bills gave up on him. No other team gave him another chance for 4 full years after that. Then played half a season (terribly) at a different position for one team. Then done. That's pretty unprecedented. #4 overall pick to nobody willing to give him a shot, he was so bad. Williams ballooned up to 410 lbs prior to joining the Redskins. Yes a total bust and remember campaigning hard that draft season to take Bryant McKinnie over BIG Mike. 2 Quote
hondo in seattle Posted February 15 Posted February 15 6 hours ago, Mark Vader said: He was a good player. Yes, the kickoff fumble sucked Robert Royally, but he was a good CB. McKelvin was good at shadowing receivers but had terrible ball awareness. He'd often be draped all over a guy and allowed a big reception anyway just because he didn't know where the ball was. That's how I remember him. Quote
Mark Vader Posted February 15 Posted February 15 8 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: McKelvin was good at shadowing receivers but had terrible ball awareness. He'd often be draped all over a guy and allowed a big reception anyway just because he didn't know where the ball was. That's how I remember him. Maybe, but he is not a player that deserves to be mentioned in this topic. Quote
Livinginthepast Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Peterman and its not even close. Statistically worse QB performance ever, a chance to pull out a playoff game with a comeback and failed miserably. All that bad enough but what makes him worse for me is that McD and Beane kept believing in him that he was almost there and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th chances he got ? No Bill ever had! Why he got a shot, I'll never know! Quote
danc Posted February 15 Posted February 15 On 2/13/2025 at 6:53 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I think this player has to be a non QB starter. Im going with the “Punt Catcher” Chris Watson. Eddie Robinson was a close second because I’ll never get the image of him getting his ankles broken by Chad Pennington out of my head. Robinson wasn’t a bills draft pick Quote
Mailman Posted February 15 Posted February 15 On 2/13/2025 at 6:03 PM, ChronicAndKnuckles said: Wang was a total PR move to get Chinese fans. Had Russ Brandon written all over it. Russ Brandon was the absolute worst general manager I ever saw in many years of watching the NFL. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 15 Posted February 15 15 minutes ago, danc said: Robinson wasn’t a bills draft pick Was that part of the criteria? I don’t know. Quote
JohnNord Posted February 15 Posted February 15 On 2/13/2025 at 6:16 PM, The Wiz said: Just watch a clip and obviously people are picking players that either blew a big game or were just bad (Peterman, Norwood, JP Losman were some of them). I know most on here would probably throw out some better names like Erik Flowers and Aaron Maybin but it left me thinking. Is Elam approaching the threshold? I would say he could be if you were talking about "worst pick of all time" but in terms of player, he has been boom or bust. Offseason topic since everything is slow so would be interested to see how everyone feels. There’s long really bad players. As far as the “worst” if you factor in the opportunity cost you might consider John McCargo, Torell Troupe, or TJ Graham 11 minutes ago, Mailman said: Russ Brandon was the absolute worst general manager I ever saw in many years of watching the NFL. Marv Levy and Buddy Nix were bad too, and I think Bills fans really overrate Doug Whaley. Bottom line - this team was a mess before McDermott and Beane. 1 Quote
Simon Posted February 15 Posted February 15 For a multitude of reasons, the worst Bills player of all time was Drew Bledsoe. Quote
Jay_Fixit Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Wild that Norwood is mentioned. Guy played 108 games for the Bills. He missed a 47 yard kick which is no chip shot. Especially in 1991. All thanks to his head coach being brutally out coached and out smarted. One play? LOL. Jake Arians is worse than Norwood. Should I hold people’s hands? Do I need to show you what bad really is? I may. I might. I see a lot of ***** from Bills fans these days. A lot of crap that comes from the newbies. I don’t respect you. You waste my time. You show up cause the Bills are the flavor of the week and you ruin what I’ve loved for 37 years. Get the ***** out of here. Quote
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