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9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

And we saw Allen be turnover prone and the offense was not nearly as good as what it was this season which was historically great.  I really don't think they are interested in going back to that feed the ball to one guy style of offense, nor should they.  Doesn't mean you don't add a great talent, but I think that talent needs to buy in to what we do, not force us to change what we just did that led to Allens first MVP, the 16th best offense in NFL history, and numerous offensive team and individual records.

Yet they felt the need to give up a 3rd round pick for a rental player hoping to give Allen a #1 outside WR.  The "everybody eats" mantra started because Beane is a hell of a salesman.

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4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Yet they felt the need to give up a 3rd round pick for a rental player hoping to give Allen a #1 outside WR.  The "everybody eats" mantra started because Beane is a hell of a salesman.

 

Yet the whole team bought into it, became the 16th greatest offense of all time, was historically great, set numerous offensive reocrds, Allen had his most effective season and won MVP, we exceeded all expectations going 13-3 with Allen, won our division and got the 2 seed and went further in the playoffs than we have in 5 years and missed a SB thanks to refs stealing the game in the 4th.  

 

 

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3 hours ago, Rigotz said:

"Informed they are will be moving in another direction"

 

I.e. "please trade with us before we release him"

 

LOL good luck with that. Also ... LOOK AT THE VOID YEARS ON HIS CONTRACT!!

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/3745/aaron-rodgers

 

The Jets are going to have to pay him $21M the next 2 years to NOT be on the team... and THEN $14M ... and THEN $7M.

 

4 more years of commitment.

 


Actually Jets don't need to pay him anything more after releasing him. These numbers are cap hit, not actual money figure. Jets already paid him the 35M signing bonus in 2023 and another 35M roster bonus in 2024. These cap hit numbers are the prorated amount from these bonus already paid. Jets will either take 49M cap hit this year or spread it to 14M cap hit this year and 35M cap hit next year, but no new money needs to pay to Rodgers anymore.

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2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Even better hilarity - Geno Smith

 

Semi-seriously, I don't see the ingredients that allowed Darnold to be successful with the Vikings as present with the Jets:

1) good run game with Aaron Jones

2) decent OL in pass protect and run game

3) top-notch WR talent with Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and TJ Hockinson


Well said, not a slight toward Darnold but his resurrection was a team effort. Absolute perfect scenario. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Yet the whole team bought into it, became the 16th greatest offense of all time, was historically great, set numerous offensive reocrds, Allen had his most effective season and won MVP, we exceeded all expectations going 13-3 with Allen, won our division and got the 2 seed and went further in the playoffs than we have in 5 years and missed a SB thanks to refs stealing the game in the 4th.  

 

 

Great.  Explain the trade for Cooper then.

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12 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Great.  Explain the trade for Cooper then.

 

What does that have to do with anything we are discussing?  I mean you really want to discuss a WR that had 20 catches in 8 games and averaged 37 yards per game?  

 

And Cooper came here and fully bought into the everybody eats style of offense too.  

 

But hey...lets disregard the greatest offense in Bills history, 16th best in NFL history, Allens first MVP, the numerous offensive records this team set, the most points scored in the NFL this year...and go back to the old ways because you don't care about how many points we scored and only seem to care about "how" or "who" scores the points.  That is what makes sense?

 

I can assure you that no one person inside the Bills organization is entering this offseason thinking "we need to change the offense back to the old ways" and feed one alpha WR every game to the tune of 160 targets a year.

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52 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

Actually.  It would be funny if he went somewhere and led that team to the playoffs.

 

He's not capable of taking any team that's willing to take him to the playoffs.

49 minutes ago, syhuang said:

Actually Jets don't need to pay him anything more after releasing him. These numbers are cap hit, not actual money figure. Jets already paid him the 35M signing bonus in 2023 and another 35M roster bonus in 2024. These cap hit numbers are the prorated amount from these bonus already paid. Jets will either take 49M cap hit this year or spread it to 14M cap hit this year and 35M cap hit next year, but no new money needs to pay to Rodgers anymore.

 

Fans don't care about real money and when anyone talks about 'paying a guy' they are talking about the cap.

Posted
4 hours ago, BigdaddyinOrlando said:

I can see Davonte Adams asking for a release or trade now as well, I’m sure he doesn’t want to be there for another wasted year for a rebuild of any sort. And how long before Wilson and Gaurdner want out as well? JMO

This might be an opportunity to poach a Jets defensive player with all this drama and uncertainty?

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Great.  Explain the trade for Cooper then.

 

The Bills brought in Cooper because they thought he could be an asset.  A guy with his talent and reputation draws coverage away from others, further allowing everybody to "eat."  Plus, Cooper himself is a good receiver who can and did make some plays of his own.  Cooper also bought in to the culture, publicly stating he was happy being with a team that was a contender and going far in the playoffs, versus putting up big stats on an also-ran.

 

Just because the team philosophy was to spread the ball around doesn't mean that they were opposed to adding receiving talent.  If anything, Cooper was the perfect fit, buying into the culture, versus a diva type who might have caused tension in the locker room if they didn't get enough touches.

 

As to Aaron Rodgers, the guy was an all-time great during his time in Green Bay, but, by the time he got to the Jests, he was well on the downside of his career, and that downhill slope got steeper after his achilles injury against the Bills.  He can play next season, but he's no longer a difference maker.  He's also become a self-centered media hound who is easy to dislike.  I was a big fan of his during his heyday with the Packers, but have grown tired of his act.  I really don't care if he plays next season, or where he plays, as I don't see him making a major impact.

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

The jets are so, so bad.

They could realistically go another 5-7 years without making the postseason. They aren’t even heading in a positive direction. They are going backwards. Firing Saleh was a dumb move. He knew how to beat the Bills, their biggest obstacle. And he did it without a competent QB. Rodgers was cooked. 

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Rogers is a tool, now without tools.  He will make millions more from some team or two who are trying to make a marketing move to cover up other flaws. 
 

he will have a few moments bit will suck-and suck the life out of a team or two before he retires 

 

will be a fun watch whatever happens because we arent the fools!! 

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I was hoping he had a couple more years left there.

 

In the words of the great Clubber Lang, “Challenge? I don’t accept no challenge because Rodgers is no challenge. But I’ll be more than happy to knock his block off again.”

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