Steelers approach Jags about a Trevor Lawrence Trade

[NewEra]

1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Yes nothing inspires confidence more than one of the worst teams in the NFL's 3rd string QB

He has the tools and he won’t cost a lot.  His upside is tremendous worth the risk.  

33 minutes ago, mannc said:

Rob Johnson vibes...

How so?

25 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

Not a chance. Most Patriots fans want to see a QB competition in training camp, especially after their "big" win over the Bills in the last game.

 

Doesn’t matter what fans want.  Maye is the future.  
 

 

that said- they may want to hold onto Milton and see if they can more for him in time

21 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

 

Milton is a lot more like EJ Manuel than he is like Josh Allen.  I've followed his career since he was recruited to Michigan and have detailed my analysis in other threads, so I won't get too deep into it here.  Milton has all the physical attributes and is a good kid (similar to EJ) and did look good against the Bills in a game that the Bills were trying to lose, but he doesn't have the accuracy and the ability to process the game fast enough to be a successful NFL starter.  There's a reason he was drafted in the 6th round.

Same can be said for several hall of famers.  
 

The cost is likely worth the risk imo

[mannc]

7 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

How so?

 

Like Rob Johnson, Milton’s perceived value shot up after an excellent performance in a totally meaningless end-of-season game…

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

If I needed a QB if reach out to the patriots about Joe Milton

I wanted us to draft him last year. He would be a great back-up to Josh Allen.

[strive_for_five_guy]

4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

I wanted us to draft him last year. He would be a great back-up to Josh Allen.

Riley Leonard caught my eye this season, felt like I was watching a less talented version of Josh, but similar styles.  Curious where he might go in the draft this year, just don’t know how he’d fit into the Bills’ roster if we’ve already got Trubisky, White, etc.

[SirAndrew]

Pittsburgh needs to reset, and commit to rebuilding. They aren’t going to find a free agent QB who leads them to the promised land. It only helps Tomlin’s job security to maintain first round playoff loses every year. 

[NewEra]

15 minutes ago, mannc said:

Like Rob Johnson, Milton’s perceived value shot up after an excellent performance in a totally meaningless end-of-season game…

Copy that, makes sense.  I think the price tag would be a lot cheaper.

9 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

I wanted us to draft him last year. He would be a great back-up to Josh Allen.

Same.  Was really bummed when we passed on him 3 times in rd 5

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Brand J said:

Lawrence equals Justin Herbert. Maybe lesser.

 

Definitely lesser

 

Herbert = Phillip Rivers 2.0

Lawerence = Jeff George 2.0

 

 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

32 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

The Steelers culture and Jags culture are basically opposite. 
 

I’ve never been a Lawrence guy dating back to college. He never looked like the generational guy that he was made out to be. Lol, it’s one of the rare times that I feel vindicated for a bold opinion. With that being said, I’ve probably been a little harder on him than most calling him, “the most overrated player in football.” 🤣🤣 If he got to Pittsburgh though, I’d expect him to become a quality QB.

The most overrated player is Herbert. 

[Augie]

I have to wonder what Pittsburgh would be willing to give up, and what the Jags would want to get. How wide is that gap? Probably enormous! People are talking about a king’s ransom for a DE, what does a supposed “franchise QB” fetch? 

 

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[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

The most overrated player is Herbert. 

He’s MILES ahead of Lawrence in my mind (especially this past year). I think Herbert has an argument as the 5th best QB (definitely top 10). Lawrence is closer to 20 for me.

[davefan66]

23 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s MILES ahead of Lawrence in my mind (especially this past year). I think Herbert has an argument as the 5th best QB (definitely top 10). Lawrence is closer to 20 for me.

Herbert is a strong armed guy. Seems to understand the game.

 

Lawrence doesn’t seem to me to be all in like Herbert. Maybe it’s his demeanor, but I wouldn’t trade for him.

[Warcodered]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Interesting:

 

I doubt this goes anywhere but interesting on a couple of fronts. Clearly the Steelers are looking for a “win now” QB. Rodgers feels like a decent option. Maybe Darnold?  Maybe Cousins (despite his horrible year)? Maybe someone like Kyler or Geno? Who knows but it sounds like they are thinking outside the box. 
 

Secondly, the Jags must be horrible to deal with 🤣🤣. I’m pretty confident that Pittsburgh didn’t want this out there. 

from the horses mouth....Trevor said it himself?

[Big Turk]

Jags should do this in a New York Minute...

 

Lawrence got one of the worst contracts in the NFL and the Jags are hamstrung because of it...he isn't elite, never is going to be a franchise guy, they need to take this offer and run to the bank now, especially with it involving multiple high value assets.

[mushypeaches]

Honestly, if I were the Jags, I'd hop all over this opportunity.

 

Somebody wants your underwhelming, uninspiring QB on a big fat 2nd contract?

All while you won like 4 games last year and starting over with a new GM & coach?

 

Yes, you're gonna eat a lot of dead cap, but might as well do it while you're already horrible

Because really, if you don't have a Top 5 QB, but are paying someone like they are, then you're really nowhere now, and nowhere for the foreseeable future

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

False info, apparently. Steelers and jags haven’t spoken.

 

https://awfulannouncing.com/nfl/trevor-lawrence-steelers-report-shut-down.html

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, mushypeaches said:

Honestly, if I were the Jags, I'd hop all over this opportunity.

 

Somebody wants your underwhelming, uninspiring QB on a big fat 2nd contract?

All while you won like 4 games last year and starting over with a new GM & coach?

 

Yes, you're gonna eat a lot of dead cap, but might as well do it while you're already horrible

Because really, if you don't have a Top 5 QB, but are paying someone like they are, then you're really nowhere now, and nowhere for the foreseeable future

 

Would easily be able to do it since they would likely have a rookie QB under contract and not paying that position

[DrDawkinstein]

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Definitely lesser.  He hasn't been in the best situation, but I don't think Lawrence has ever looked like a franchise QB.

 

To be fair, he LOOKS like a franchise QB... but that's about it. He certainly doesnt play like one. And I never thought he ever did, even going back to Clemson.

 

He always seemed like a guy who made it that far because he's 6'6" 220lbs, and football teams just hoped he'd turn into a real QB some day.

[transient]

4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

II doubt this goes anywhere but interesting on a couple of fronts. Clearly the Steelers are looking for a “win now” QB. Rodgers feels like a decent option. Maybe Darnold?  Maybe Cousins (despite his horrible year)? Maybe someone like Kyler or Geno? Who knows but it sounds like they are thinking outside the box. 

Apparently he let slip in his end of season pressor that he was dealing with elbow and shoulder injuries and that Penix replacing him was because he wasn't able to deal with the pain of it any longer. 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43691382/falcons-kirk-cousins-says-shoulder-elbow-injuries-affected-play

[transient]

30 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

To be fair, he LOOKS like a franchise QB... but that's about it. He certainly doesnt play like one. And I never thought he ever did, even going back to Clemson.

 

He always seemed like a guy who made it that far because he's 6'6" 220lbs, and football teams just hoped he'd turn into a real QB some day.

Huh... I thought it was established at the NFL awards ceremony that he LOOKS like Nikki Glaser?

[Brand J]

2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He’s MILES ahead of Lawrence in my mind (especially this past year). I think Herbert has an argument as the 5th best QB (definitely top 10). Lawrence is closer to 20 for me.

I’d take any of these QBs ahead of Herbert:

Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Stroud, Stafford, Hurts, Daniels (yes, already), Dak, and Love. Herbert I’d have closer to Kyler Murray and Brock Purdy. Guys who are capable of making plays and winning games, but incapable of carrying a team. Maybe I should’ve said Lawrence is a more mistake-prone Herbert. They’ve both flashed at times and displayed big time ability, but I don’t believe in either of them for whatever reason.