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1 hour ago, Albwan said:

You just defined Democrats to a T, and you forgot one other thing Democrats do well..

Rules for radicals, accuse the enemy of what you're doing, it keeps them off balance.

 

An entire party or the members of that party display one set of characteristics? Seems well thought out. 

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CNBC: 

 

U.S. stocks fell on Friday as investors grappled with ongoing tariff uncertainty and digested key inflation data.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average traded 590 points lower, or 1.6%. The S&P 500 lost 1.6%, and the Nasdaq Composite shed 2.2%.

The major indexes traded lower after a report on consumer sentiment for March slightly missed expectations, as inflation expectations reach multidecade highs.

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4 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

CNBC: 

 

U.S. stocks fell on Friday as investors grappled with ongoing tariff uncertainty and digested key inflation data.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average traded 590 points lower, or 1.6%. The S&P 500 lost 1.6%, and the Nasdaq Composite shed 2.2%.

The major indexes traded lower after a report on consumer sentiment for March slightly missed expectations, as inflation expectations reach multidecade highs.

Crazy that the markets prefer some idea of what to expect vs the on / off Tariff game. 

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1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

Crazy that the markets prefer some idea of what to expect vs the on / off Tariff game. 

It’s worse. DT is a day trader ….waking up trying to paint over yesterdays bad bets by waging a new and bigger bet. He literally has no clue what he is doing. Pretty soon his economic plays are going to produce further and further losses with no signs of returns and he is gonna play a new card…like invading Greenland.  Remember Grenada anyone?

 

Getting his ass kicked by Putin…Middle East digging in for another century of pain…China blowing USA away in new tech and we retreat backwards with fossil fuels …

 

Everything he touches ultimately turns to tihs.  Golden Age. …what an effing loser 

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1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

Crazy that the markets prefer some idea of what to expect vs the on / off Tariff game. 

I believe today's sell off was about the PCE number coming in hotter than expected. Being what's been stated, the Feds favorite indicator of future inflation the market experienced the consequences of a new expectation of fewer rate cuts. 

Fact is the markets are one big speculation on the number and size of Fed rate cuts rather than a proxy for economic activity.

Why else do stocks growing at single digit rates trade at huge multiples. There's severe overvaluation problem that will eventually be resolved with either lower rates and higher profits or lower PEs and lower stock prices.

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17 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I believe today's sell off was about the PCE number coming in hotter than expected. Being what's been stated, the Feds favorite indicator of future inflation the market experienced the consequences of a new expectation of fewer rate cuts. 

Fact is the markets are one big speculation on the number and size of Fed rate cuts rather than a proxy for economic activity.

Why else do stocks growing at single digit rates trade at huge multiples. There's severe overvaluation problem that will eventually be resolved with either lower rates and higher profits or lower PEs and lower stock prices.

It was about the stupid tariffs which are hurting consumer confidence, increasing inflation and disrupting trade 

 

That's pretty straight forward, unless you rely on MAGA "logic" 

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Just now, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

It was about the stupid tariffs which are hurting consumer confidence, increasing inflation and disrupting trade 

 

That's pretty straight forward, unless you rely on MAGA "logic" 

No I rely on expert market sources and my own experience and knowledge of the financial world and economics. 

 

You just want it to be about Trump so bad to the point of an obsession that your mind can't process or consider alternatives or other factors. Its hatred driven by pure emotions.

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38 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I believe today's sell off was about the PCE number coming in hotter than expected. Being what's been stated, the Feds favorite indicator of future inflation the market experienced the consequences of a new expectation of fewer rate cuts. 

Fact is the markets are one big speculation on the number and size of Fed rate cuts rather than a proxy for economic activity.

Why else do stocks growing at single digit rates trade at huge multiples. There's severe overvaluation problem that will eventually be resolved with either lower rates and higher profits or lower PEs and lower stock prices.

Markets have already priced in rate cuts. It's been priced in for months. Did you see the weakness yesterday at the end of the session (prior to PCE?). We will be red in April, I expect at least another 6-7% down in the S&P. All of which is just stocks, but at the end of the day the biggest thing impacting stocks is speculation of future  market conditions and economic activity. Right or wrong the markets wanted to extend this bull run further at the $610 high for SPY. But even the risk adverse wall street bros can't toss cash into this burning pile. Did you read the outlook from Lululemon from yesterday? Nobody is projecting growth. Everybody is complaining about higher costs and concerns with tariffs. Inflation + reduction in disposable income is on the menu, which the economy was managing, but the Tariffs will tip it over and we are already seeing it. 

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4 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Markets have already priced in rate cuts. It's been priced in for months. Did you see the weakness yesterday at the end of the session (prior to PCE?). We will be red in April, I expect at least another 6-7% down in the S&P. All of which is just stocks, but at the end of the day the biggest thing impacting stocks is speculation of future  market conditions and economic activity. Right or wrong the markets wanted to extend this bull run further at the $610 high for SPY. But even the risk adverse wall street bros can't toss cash into this burning pile. Did you read the outlook from Lululemon from yesterday? Nobody is projecting growth. Everybody is complaining about higher costs and concerns with tariffs. Inflation + reduction in disposable income is on the menu, which the economy was managing, but the Tariffs will tip it over and we are already seeing it. 

Dow 35000

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4 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

It was about the stupid tariffs which are hurting consumer confidence, increasing inflation and disrupting trade 

 

That's pretty straight forward, unless you rely on MAGA "logic" 


 

They’ve known about tariffs all month. 
 

The CPI data came in.  
 

The stock market is important.  
 

It soared from 2010 to 2024.  
 

What’s that got us?

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:


 

They’ve known about tariffs all month. 
 

The CPI data came in.  
 

The stock market is important.  
 

It soared from 2010 to 2024.  
 

What’s that got us?

 

 

 

Did they know the month prior when Trump postponed them? Nobody knows. He says on and off like he’s playing with a light switch. Trump clarified his auto Tarrif Wednesday. That IS the reason. The market was rallying until the announcement. Since that point it’s sold off to near lows on the year. 

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7 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I believe today's sell off was about the PCE number coming in hotter than expected. Being what's been stated, the Feds favorite indicator of future inflation the market experienced the consequences of a new expectation of fewer rate cuts. 

Fact is the markets are one big speculation on the number and size of Fed rate cuts rather than a proxy for economic activity.

Why else do stocks growing at single digit rates trade at huge multiples. There's severe overvaluation problem that will eventually be resolved with either lower rates and higher profits or lower PEs and lower stock prices.

All true but this on again off again trade policy only adds fuel to the fire.  Markets hate uncertainty.  An on/off tariff policy fuels panic, panic fuels selling, and selling brings lower prices.  Can't wait for Trump to use our tax money to "bail out" farmers again who never asked for it to begin with. 

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6 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

All true but this on again off again trade policy only adds fuel to the fire.  Markets hate uncertainty.  An on/off tariff policy fuels panic, panic fuels selling, and selling brings lower prices.  Can't wait for Trump to use our tax money to "bail out" farmers again who never asked for it to begin with. 

It’s not “markets” that hate uncertainty…it’s money. Bank money, investor money, corporate money, consumer money….no one wants to invest or spend while the 💩 for brains crew is at the wheel.

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18 hours ago, TH3 said:

It’s worse. DT is a day trader ….waking up trying to paint over yesterdays bad bets by waging a new and bigger bet. He literally has no clue what he is doing. Pretty soon his economic plays are going to produce further and further losses with no signs of returns and he is gonna play a new card…like invading Greenland.  Remember Grenada anyone?

 

Getting his ass kicked by Putin…Middle East digging in for another century of pain…China blowing USA away in new tech and we retreat backwards with fossil fuels …

 

Everything he touches ultimately turns to tihs.  Golden Age. …what an effing loser 

 

If all you're saying is true, then Trump is setting the Dems up PERFECTLY for big mid-term gains and recapturing the White House in 2028.

 

You should be rejoicing! But, you sound angry and frustrated instead.  angry-angry-face.gif

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President Donald Trump’s 25% tariff on foreign-made vehicles and parts stands to raise prices on vehicles by thousands of dollars, according to industry economists and other analysts.

Sticker prices are already near record highs — just shy of $50,000 on average, Cox Automotive. A record number of buyers are delinquent on their auto loan payments, according to Fitch Ratings. Tariffs threaten to raise prices by around $6,000 per vehicle on average, according to Cox Automotive.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/29/why-tariffs-could-push-car-prices-even-higher.html

 

Trump could care less 

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22 hours ago, JFKjr said:

 

If all you're saying is true, then Trump is setting the Dems up PERFECTLY for big mid-term gains and recapturing the White House in 2028.

 

You should be rejoicing! But, you sound angry and frustrated instead.  angry-angry-face.gif

I am Not a Democrat.  
 

I already see what’s happening and I work with people whose job it is to do that. If your not apoplectic with the current course of the economy ….your just ignorant or brainwashed 

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34 minutes ago, TH3 said:

I am Not a Democrat.  
 

I already see what’s happening and I work with people whose job it is to do that. If your not apoplectic with the current course of the economy ….your just ignorant or brainwashed 

 

Great, who's your Third Party Person for 2028?

 

I'm not apoplectic, that's a Libnut trait.

 

Just watching Trump do his thing and cheering him on.

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