Doc Posted February 21 Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Dang it, Trump The cost of silicone has increased... 1 4
Roundybout Posted February 21 Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, Doc said: The cost of silicone has increased... That got a good hearty chuckle from me 1
stevestojan Posted February 21 Posted February 21 24 minutes ago, Doc said: The cost of silicone has increased... ***** it! What’s next? Thanks Obama…
dgrochester55 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 2 hours ago, stevestojan said: How many months until you all stop comparing to Biden and just opine on the whacky ***** Trump is doing? Biden will go down in the top 3 worst presidents of all time. The bar he set was insanely low. And yet here we have a doofus of a POTUS talking about paper straws and annexing Greenland. Most of us dems know that Biden was a disaster. Can we just take Trump on face value and not say “well, at least it’s better than Biden!” No *****. That’s like getting a cancer diagnosis and saying “well at least it’s not stage 4 yet!!” Look at Trumps promises (on day 1!!) and compare to what he’s currently focused on. And to that point, I’ll give my disclaimer to give him credit for playing Mexico perfectly on the tariff threat that led to them sending troops to the border. Expertly business move. But beyond that, the areas he’s focused on are embarrassingly unimportant and more focused on spite and revenge - but that’s what we get for electing a narcissistic man child to run the country. The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout. I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far. Positive: Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires. Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor Negative: Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak. The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target Jury is out: DOGE: I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk. Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate. What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both. At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around. 90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't. Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult. Edited February 21 by dgrochester55 1 1 1 1
Roundybout Posted February 21 Posted February 21 1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said: The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout. I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far. Positive: Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires. Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor Negative: Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak. The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target Jury is out: DOGE: I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk. Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate. What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both. At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around. 90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't. Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult. I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money?
TH3 Posted February 21 Posted February 21 18 minutes ago, Roundybout said: I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money? Borrow it
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21 Posted February 21 Dems pushed transitionary script for years. Now they are confused. And ignore the fact bidens regime rammed massive chips cash to the fortune 500 in their last few months.
All_Pro_Bills Posted February 21 Posted February 21 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Homelander said: So far these tariffs are more a policy hammer than an inflationary price increase because few to none are actually in effect. And all these DOGE cuts are clearly deflationary by taking money out of circulation. If they're nothing else they'll trigger a recession around the DC area with things like real estate values droping as lots of people move out of the center of government being shrunk. Add to that high nation wide unemployment among the political activist profession. Edited February 21 by All_Pro_Bills
TH3 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout. I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far. Positive: Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires. Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor Negative: Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak. The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target Jury is out: DOGE: I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk. Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate. What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both. At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around. 90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't. Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult. Wut? Your last paragraph is a mirror of all the maga puds Edited February 22 by TH3
JFKjr Posted February 22 Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money? Our politicians' overseas bank accounts.
dgrochester55 Posted February 22 Posted February 22 (edited) 5 hours ago, TH3 said: Wut? Your last paragraph is a mirror of all the maga puds A lot more people think this now than MAGA's. I am not referring to every Harris voter or even every Trump hater when I say TDS. I am only referring to the small percentage than have made it their religion to complain about Trump. They saturate their social media accounts and every conversation with the topic and can't go on with life because of the thought of him. Most of those people only parrot what the media and democrat politicians call them. 5 hours ago, TH3 said: 7 hours ago, Roundybout said: I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money? That is a valid and fair question. Theoretically, there is enough recovered money to be able to do that. In reality, maybe, but most likely not. If it happens It is probably much less than that as Trump tends to exaggerate. As mentioned before, I have mixed feelings about DOGE, I love the concept but would be worried about Musk having too much power. My problem is more with the tone deaf thought of $5000 not helping the average person. Edited February 22 by dgrochester55
TH3 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) On 2/22/2025 at 12:06 AM, dgrochester55 said: A lot more people think this now than MAGA's. I am not referring to every Harris voter or even every Trump hater when I say TDS. I am only referring to the small percentage than have made it their religion to complain about Trump. They saturate their social media accounts and every conversation with the topic and can't go on with life because of the thought of him. Most of those people only parrot what the media and democrat politicians call them. That is a valid and fair question. Theoretically, there is enough recovered money to be able to do that. In reality, maybe, but most likely not. If it happens It is probably much less than that as Trump tends to exaggerate. As mentioned before, I have mixed feelings about DOGE, I love the concept but would be worried about Musk having too much power. My problem is more with the tone deaf thought of $5000 not helping the average person. You talk about TDS ….yet every MAGA poster here just can’t help constantly going back to talking about Biden. This includes the firehouse of social media links….Biden ….Biden…Biden…. other than pinching the border….47 has simply made everything worse…Elon hasn’t saved any money or changed the trajectory of debt, but 47 has tossed Putins salad …so there is that ….but Biden Biden Biden Edited February 25 by TH3 1
dgrochester55 Posted February 25 Posted February 25 (edited) 3 hours ago, TH3 said: You talk about TDS ….yet every MAGA poster here just can’t help constantly going back to talking about Biden. This includes the firehouse of social media links….Biden ….Biden…Biden…. other than pinching the border….47 has simply made everything worse…Elon hasn’t saved any money or changed the trajectory of debt, but 47 has tossed Putins salad …so there is that ….but Biden Biden Biden Are we going to pretend that your party did not do this with Trump? Hell, it was literally Biden, then Harris's entire platform. I know that progressives enjoy two-tiered standards, but this is ridiculous. Edit, I also find it hilarious that some dems on this board are saying "Yeah Biden was bad, but this is now!" Wait? Wasn't Biden the greatest President ever with a record economy? That is what we were told by politicians, media and trolls for four years. Are you admitting four years of lying? Edited February 25 by dgrochester55 1 2
TH3 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) On 2/25/2025 at 5:20 PM, dgrochester55 said: Are we going to pretend that your party did not do this with Trump? Hell, it was literally Biden, then Harris's entire platform. I know that progressives enjoy two-tiered standards, but this is ridiculous. Edit, I also find it hilarious that some dems on this board are saying "Yeah Biden was bad, but this is now!" Wait? Wasn't Biden the greatest President ever with a record economy? That is what we were told by politicians, media and trolls for four years. Are you admitting four years of lying? I am a Republican …not a maga. Big difference On 2/21/2025 at 3:22 PM, dgrochester55 said: The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout. I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far. Positive: Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires. Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor Negative: Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak. The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target Jury is out: DOGE: I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk. Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate. What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both. At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around. 90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't. Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult. Positive. Letting sex traffickers into the US to own the libs Edited February 28 by TH3
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 On 2/21/2025 at 3:22 PM, dgrochester55 said: The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout. Wooooo! Full stop! Biden with the lowest unemployment like ever? No stupid idiotic trade wars, no licking up to Putin. Biden was way better than this stupid ass clown who has no clue what he is doing. You think Trump is so good that only a nuclear war would make him worse than an actual successful President? Wow 🤷♂️
dgrochester55 Posted February 28 Posted February 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Wooooo! Full stop! ********Biden with the lowest unemployment like ever?******** Wow 🤷♂️ I would consider putting that card back in your deck and retiring it from the game altogether. The unemployment rate only counts those who are actively job searching and eligible to collect. If a person runs out of eligibility, or settle for a underpaying job, they are not counted towards that number but certainly not better off or doing well. It also does not count people who retired early because they couldn't find anything and the underemployed working side gigs and/or part time jobs. Even the dems are starting to admit that most of the economy stats during Biden's term were an inflated sham. Talk to anyone that is job hunting or run a search on the topic on your preferred social media outlet for "job searching 2024" and you will see quite a different sentiment from people of all ages, races, genders and walks of life. In 2024, Thousands of people out there could not find any job. Not a job in their field, any job. People have to put out hundreds of applications and go through multiple interviews to even get an entry level minimum wage job in many areas. Some may dismiss it is "they are just lazy or underqulaified.", "it's okay because I have a job" or worst of all "It'S aNeCdOtAl!", but the sheer volume of clips with the same experience make me think otherwise. It is not really any better in 2025 yet and remains to be seem whether Trump will improve that, but jobs were not good under Biden. Regarding the second question "You think Trump is so good that only a nuclear war would make him worse than an actual successful President?" The answer is no, I think that Biden was so bad that it would take a civil or nuclear war for Trump or anyone other future president for that matter to be worse. Huge difference. Disagree if you want, but please don't twist my words. Edited February 28 by dgrochester55
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted February 28 Author Posted February 28 33 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: I would consider putting that card back in your deck and retiring it from the game altogether. Even the dems are starting to admit that most of the economy stats during Biden's term were an inflated sham. Talk to anyone that is job hunting or run a search on the topic on your preferred social media outlet for "job searching 2024" and you will see quite a different sentiment from people of all ages, races, genders and walks of life. In 2024, Thousands of people out there could not find any job. People have to put out hundreds of applications and go through multiple interviews to even get an entry level minimum wage job in many areas. Some may dismiss it is "they are are lazy.", "arent trying hard enough" or "it's okay because I have a job" but the sheer volume of clips with the same experience make me think otherwise. It is not really any better in 2025 yet and remains to be seem whether Trump will improve that, but jobs were not good under Biden. The unemployment rate only counts those who are actively job searching and eligible to collect. It does not count people who have been searching beyond that, people who retired early because they couldn't find anything and the underemployed working side gigs and two part time jobs. Regarding the second question "You think Trump is so good that only a nuclear war would make him worse than an actual successful President?" The answer is no, I think that Biden was so bad that it would take a civil or nuclear war for Trump or anyone other futre president for that matter to be worse. Which Democrats are "admitting" Biden's numbers were lies? Are you just making things up? And so Trump, in your opinion can do no wrong, unless the world is destroyed. Great standard bud.
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