Trumponomics Is Giving Us Stagflation.

[Roundybout]

 

 

Dang it, Trump 

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

Dang it, Trump 

 

The cost of silicone has increased...

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The cost of silicone has increased...

That got a good hearty chuckle from me 

[stevestojan]

24 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The cost of silicone has increased...

***** it! What’s next? Thanks Obama… 

[dgrochester55]

2 hours ago, stevestojan said:

How many months until you all stop comparing to Biden and just opine on the whacky ***** Trump is doing? Biden will go down in the top 3 worst presidents of all time. The bar he set was insanely low. And yet here we have a doofus of a POTUS talking about paper straws and annexing Greenland. 
 

Most of us dems know that Biden was a disaster. Can we just take Trump on face value and not say “well, at least it’s better than Biden!” No *****. That’s like getting a cancer diagnosis and saying “well at least it’s not stage 4 yet!!”  
 

Look at Trumps promises (on day 1!!) and compare to what he’s currently focused on. And to that point,  I’ll give my disclaimer to give him credit for playing Mexico perfectly on the tariff threat that led to them sending troops to the border. Expertly business move. But beyond that, the areas he’s focused on are embarrassingly unimportant and more focused on spite and revenge - but that’s what we get for electing a narcissistic man child to run the country. 

 

The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout.  I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far.

 

Positive: 

 

Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it 

 

Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires.

 

Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor

 

Negative: 

 

Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak.

 

The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target

 

Jury is out: 

 

DOGE:  I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk.

 

Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate.

 

What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both.  At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around.

 

90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't.  Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult.

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by dgrochester55

[Roundybout]

1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout.  I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far.

 

Positive: 

 

Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it 

 

Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires.

 

Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor

 

Negative: 

 

Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak.

 

The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target

 

Jury is out: 

 

DOGE:  I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk.

 

Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate.

 

What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both.  At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around.

 

90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't.  Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult.

 

 

 

 

I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money?

[TH3]

18 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money?

Borrow it

[Homelander]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Dems pushed transitionary script for years.  Now they are confused.  And ignore the fact bidens regime rammed massive chips cash to the fortune 500 in their last few months.  

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

55 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

So far these tariffs are more a policy hammer than an inflationary price increase because few to none are actually in effect.

And all these DOGE cuts are clearly deflationary by taking money out of circulation. If they're nothing else they'll trigger a recession around the DC area with things like real estate values droping as lots of people move out of the center of government being shrunk. Add to that high nation wide unemployment among the political activist profession.

Edited 18 hours ago by All_Pro_Bills

[Homelander]

 

[TH3]

3 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

The only way that Trump will end up being worse than Biden is if there is a civil war or nuclear fallout.  I voted for him, but I am by no means a MAGA. I can be objective about what i see from him. To me, this is what i see so far.

 

Positive: 

 

Removing criminals and securing border: This is why he won and he is making good on it 

 

Being active and taking charge in the assistance of wildfire and hurricane victims: Western North Carolina was shafted by FEMA and needed aid, they got it. Trump worked well with the politicians in California last month when dealing with the wildfires.

 

Using the tariff threats to get Canada and Mexico to work out better deals: I am not a fan of tariffs in general, but I agree that this worked well in his favor

 

Negative: 

 

Overuse of the tariff threat: Countries will eventually catch on and retaliate. This means either actually putting out the tariffs and getting into a trade war that would severly hurt the economy or backing out because his bluff was called and looking weak.

 

The whole Greenland thing, Gulf of America: Neither make sense and both give legacy media who is always looking for an excuse to bash him an easy target

 

Jury is out: 

 

DOGE:  I Love the concept, but would like to be more of politicians on both sides and less of Musk.

 

Immigration/Where does it stop? No one should have a problem with removing criminals who got in illegally, but if it was to extended to people who have been here for decades, That is where i would personally draw the line and be against it. I believe that there should be a pathway to citizenship as long as they don't have a criminal record and are willing to cooperate.

 

What annoys me the most and causes me to argue against the left 90 percent of the time is the inconsistent treatment of both.  At least you were objective to admit something positive. Some people have been conditioned to hate Trump so much that they refuse to ever credit him for one thing. If Trump discovered a cure for cancer, people would be screaming about him taking away people right to get the disease. A real life example is politicians and mob members and TDS trying to tell everyone that $5000 wont make a difference to the working person as a result of DOGE because "rich man bad" "Orange man bad." These are the same people who sky screamed that "EvErYoNe wOuLd StArVe" is another 600 dollar stimulus package didn't go through five years ago. More and more people see through things like this and that is why he won this time around.

 

90 percent of the stuff that I see against Trump is not a persons own opinion, but merely a parroting of what they saw in the news. They make think that it is their own, but it isn't.  Anyone who likes him or even thinks neutrally of him has to keep silent and conform to the swarm or people will ostracize, personally attack and sometimes threaten them. That is never okay and that is why I dislike TDS people more than anyone else. They are literally like dealing with a cult.

 

 

Wut? Your last paragraph is a mirror of all the maga puds

Edited 17 hours ago by TH3

[JFKjr]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

 

 

I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money?

 

Our politicians' overseas bank accounts.

[dgrochester55]

5 hours ago, TH3 said:

Wut? Your last paragraph is a mirror of all the maga puds

 

A lot more people think this now than MAGA's. I am not referring to every Harris voter or even every Trump hater when I say TDS. I am only referring to the small percentage than have made it their religion to complain about Trump. They saturate their social media accounts and every conversation with the topic and can't go on with life because of the thought of him. Most of those people only parrot what the media and democrat politicians call them.

 

5 hours ago, TH3 said:

7 hours ago, Roundybout said:

I don’t think it’s a question of $5,000 not helping the average person. It’s a question of where on earth do we get that kind of money?

 

That is a valid and fair question. Theoretically, there is enough recovered money to be able to do that. In reality, maybe, but most likely not. If it happens It is probably much less than that as Trump tends to exaggerate.

 

As mentioned before, I have mixed feelings about DOGE, I love the concept but would be worried about Musk having too much power. My problem is more with the tone deaf thought of $5000 not helping the average person.

Edited 12 hours ago by dgrochester55