James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

[Simon]

35 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

LOL.  I still have a Warning Point since Covid.  None of the Mods know how to get rid of it.

 

Wow, that is weird. 

I can't even access it to work with it.

You are a unique sonofabitch!

[DrDawkinstein]

13 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

That was a close call then because I almost went with "your so old you need to ask your kids to change your Gabe Davis avatar for you" 

 

Uh, that's Stevie Johnson! THAT'S how old I am!

11 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Wow, that is weird. 

I can't even access it to work with it.

You are a unique sonofabitch!

 

I'm actually jealous.

[Simon]

7 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Uh, that's Stevie Johnson!

 

And apparently it is time for somebody to bump up the readers to 2.75 

[BuffaloBillyG]

 Before this year Cook had four career rushing TDs. He exploded this year with 16 rushing TDs in season. I think some (but not most) of that was due to them holding Allen back from actual rushing plays inside the 10 (except push plays) due to Josh breaking his hand week 1. 

 

I expect some regression to the means there.

 

This year rushing Rico Dowdle had 1079 yards and 2 TDs. On 235 carries. He just signed a 1 year deal worth up to $6.25M. 

 

Cook had 1009 yards and the bump to 16 TDs. On 207 carries. The year before Cook had 1122 yards on 237 carries with 2 rushing TDs 

 

Sorry but a one year spike in TDs isn't worth $9M dollars a year extra. If Cook wasn't there either Josh or Davis could have picked up many of those short TD runs. 

 

A small pay bump over Dowdle? Sure. Maybe. But $15M AAV? The market itself says he isn't worth that. 

Edited 5 hours ago by BuffaloBillyG

[gonzo1105]

 

[Turbo44]

Sign Kupp

draft a sub 4.4 wr (there’s 4 or 5 worth drafting)

draft a rb in round 4 or 5

let cook simmer

[klos63]

34 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

 Before this year Cook had four career rushing TDs. He exploded this year with 16 rushing TDs in season. I think some (but not most) of that was due to them holding Allen back from actual rushing plays inside the 10 (except push plays) due to Josh breaking his hand week 1. 

 

I expect some regression to the means there.

 

This year rushing Rico Dowdle had 1079 yards and 2 TDs. On 235 carries. He just signed a 1 year deal worth up to $6.25M. 

 

Cook had 1009 yards and the bump to 16 TDs. On 207 carries. The year before Cook had 1122 yards on 237 carries with 2 rushing TDs 

 

Sorry but a one year spike in TDs isn't worth $9M dollars a year extra. If Cook wasn't there either Josh or Davis could have picked up many of those short TD runs. 

 

A small pay bump over Dowdle? Sure. Maybe. But $15M AAV? The market itself says he isn't worth that. 

Who would have picked up the 40+ yard tds or the 60+ yards td,  or the 4th down td in the AFCCG....

It's like a concerted effort by many on here to knock Cook down.  

He's by far the most dynamic RB we've had since Shady.

I'm not as quick to dismiss 16 TD s as you are. 

I think he'll be a superstar the next few seasons.  I don't care about his online posts or lack of. 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by klos63

[Einstein's Dog]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Yes. It's a bunch of old men crying over some emojis posted on social media.

 

Are you oblivious to the $15M reference?  For most of us, it's not posting, it's what was posted - $15 freakin million, and the intent behind it.  At the time this was greater than Barkley money, greater than D Henry money.

 

Why would he do that?  Why?  Who would think that was a good idea if you wanted to remain a Bill?  Here's a clue - No One.

 

Doc - it seems to me your little "kids will be kids" nonsense is what is misguided.  I remember so many continually coming to Diggs defense and excusing and interpreting his posts in a similar manner to what you are doing.  J Cook under the guidance of his brother and agent made a statement that warrents concern among Bills fans.  And it is no coincidence that J Cook remains one of the unextended players.

[Warriorspikes51]

49 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Extension Loading?  Song is “Proud of me”

If we give him 15 Mil per, or close to it…. this place will meltdown. I’ve decided I don’t really care. Give it to him and add 3 void years

Edited 4 hours ago by Warriorspikes51

[jkeerie]

55 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

Just that he's waiting.

[BuffaloBillyG]

36 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Who would have picked up the 40+ yard tds or the 60+ yards td,  or the 4th down td in the AFCCG....

It's like a concerted effort by many on here to knock Cook down.  

He's by far the most dynamic RB we've had since Shady.

I'm not as quick to dismiss 16 TD s as you are. 

I think he'll be a superstar the next few seasons.  I don't care about his online posts or lack of. 

 

 

I couldn't care less about his social media activity. Yes he's picked up some longer TDs. And they were exciting and fun. But a TD after 4 10 yard runs counts up the same as they do after a 40 yard run.

 

I'm saying to go from 4 career rushing TDs to 16 in one season isn't likely sustainable. His rushing/touches reflect a back more on the Rico Dowdle level ..not an elite back. The market said today his market for a back of that level is less than half what he's hunting for. That's not smart business if you're the Bills. He's had 1 season with the high TDs. And the year before that he had fumble issues. How quick some are to forget. Has he transformed into a new player? 

 

I would be hesitant to pay him right now. Maybe add some incentives for this year, sure. But I want to see if the big plays, the YDs and the lack of fumbles are him taking steps forward or a one year flash. Players flash for a year all the time. Remember Peyton Hillis? Players post a fluke absurd stat line every so often. Raheem Mostert out up an almost identical season the year before this and is out of a job. It happens.

 

Make him prove it wasn't a fluke this year and pay (still not $15M) the following year.

[klos63]

29 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I couldn't care less about his social media activity. Yes he's picked up some longer TDs. And they were exciting and fun. But a TD after 4 10 yard runs counts up the same as they do after a 40 yard run.

 

I'm saying to go from 4 career rushing TDs to 16 in one season isn't likely sustainable. His rushing/touches reflect a back more on the Rico Dowdle level ..not an elite back. The market said today his market for a back of that level is less than half what he's hunting for. That's not smart business if you're the Bills. He's had 1 season with the high TDs. And the year before that he had fumble issues. How quick some are to forget. Has he transformed into a new player? 

 

I would be hesitant to pay him right now. Maybe add some incentives for this year, sure. But I want to see if the big plays, the YDs and the lack of fumbles are him taking steps forward or a one year flash. Players flash for a year all the time. Remember Peyton Hillis? Players post a fluke absurd stat line every so often. Raheem Mostert out up an almost identical season the year before this and is out of a job. It happens.

 

Make him prove it wasn't a fluke this year and pay (still not $15M) the following year.

Mostert was injured most of last season and is 33 years old.  Not many RB in the league that old. 

Cook was a 2nd round pick,  to think his 2nd thousand yard season in his 1st 3 seasons is a fluke doesn't make sense. He's improved every season and our running game was one of the best in the league. To not keep your RB1 seems kinda crazy.  

[boyst]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Uh, that's Stevie Johnson! THAT'S how old I am!

 

I'm actually jealous.

I can't even imagine how many warnings I have...id bet at least 20. 

[MarkyMannn]

On 3/11/2025 at 11:06 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

Guys who kept things inside got paid. What happens to the guy who decided to air his dirty laundry publicly right off the bat?

My thought is in early February Beane approached Cook and told him we will not extend you, play out 2025, and leave to find your best deal. Hence the reaction from Cook

[klos63]

14 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said:

My thought is in early February Beane approached Cook and told him we will not extend you, play out 2025, and leave to find your best deal. Hence the reaction from Cook

Maybe the first part, but it doesn't sound like the smartest strategy to tell Cook that we don't want you after next season, regardless of how well he plays.

If he had another 16 TD season, would Beane really tell him to leave?

[MasterStrategist]

49 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said:

My thought is in early February Beane approached Cook and told him we will not extend you, play out 2025, and leave to find your best deal. Hence the reaction from Cook

Don't quit your day job, Sherlock

[Thrivefourfive]

6 hours ago, first_and_ten said:

 

What is the Bills offer?

Im going yfour/$forty. You?

[MasterStrategist]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I couldn't care less about his social media activity. Yes he's picked up some longer TDs. And they were exciting and fun. But a TD after 4 10 yard runs counts up the same as they do after a 40 yard run.

 

I'm saying to go from 4 career rushing TDs to 16 in one season isn't likely sustainable. His rushing/touches reflect a back more on the Rico Dowdle level ..not an elite back. The market said today his market for a back of that level is less than half what he's hunting for. That's not smart business if you're the Bills. He's had 1 season with the high TDs. And the year before that he had fumble issues. How quick some are to forget. Has he transformed into a new player? 

 

I would be hesitant to pay him right now. Maybe add some incentives for this year, sure. But I want to see if the big plays, the YDs and the lack of fumbles are him taking steps forward or a one year flash. Players flash for a year all the time. Remember Peyton Hillis? Players post a fluke absurd stat line every so often. Raheem Mostert out up an almost identical season the year before this and is out of a job. It happens.

 

Make him prove it wasn't a fluke this year and pay (still not $15M) the following year.

How did Rico Dowdle enter the conversation?  lol.

 

You want to cherry pick stats to find a comparable.player is just lazy.

 

How about Brock.Purdy threw for more yards than Josh Allen, on fewer attempts?  Or that Justin Herbert had a better TD/INT ratio across more attempts?

 

You want to argue those guys should be making Josh money?

 

At some point, you take off the blinders/agenda and recognize the facts. 

 

Cook has significantly improved in so many ways as a player and continues to get better.  If you want to argue his pass pro isn't good enough, sure that's a fight you'll win.

 

But so many around Cook have helped praise.  If you've seen him at training camp every year since his rookie season, in person consistently, you see a much more confident and complete back.  

 

Hes our best RB playmaker since McCoy and so many looking for ways to bring him down.  Fluke season, can't play 3rd downs, etc....

 

Hes a huge reason our team had the success it did LY.  I could go game by game down the schedule and find games where Josh needed someone else to "be the man" that game/pitch in and who esle was it but Cook...week 2 at Miami, Cook explodes on the scene when Josh was having a so so night.  

 

Point being, you say people are quick to forget his fumbling/lack of scoring TDs...I say you're quick to forget our Devin Singletary/Zach Moss seasons where we're stuck with true "Rico Dowdle", plodders.

 

Cook and Josh's, the OL and offense in total, went hand in hand LY.  Rico Dowdles of the world are cheap for a reason, let's not go comparing based on stats.

 

[vanhalen26]

How mad do you think he is now after seeing so many extensions and signings.

[davefan66]

Love cook, but hate his stance.  His actions are from the “I want a new contract” playbook.  He’s just going through the motions right now taking it public.

 

Problem is, at some point he will take it personal. More towards the start of camp is my guess.

 

My issue? You signed a contract, honor it. Especially in this situation. What has he really done that he feels he deserves a massive contract??  Barely made it over 1K this past season. Didn’t contribute much to the passing game. Is off the field on a lot of 3rd downs.

 

My sincere hope is he knows he won’t get 15 million, more around 10 or so. Will that suffice? Will he be back asking for 20 million when he breaks 1200 yards??  He’s no Saquon and doesn’t deserve anywhere near the same money.  He’s a very good RB. If he wants that money he needs work on receiving and blocking. 
 

We could draft a guy in the 3rd round who could end up being a better player. There aren’t many backs who are game changers and deserve upper echelon money. And he’s not one of them.