BillsFanForever19 Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said: Wait what? lol....where did I mention trade Oh, i'm sorry. I was looking quickly and missed that you were talking about Drafting a Running Back and not the trade value for Cook 😄 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 40 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: No one who was extended got above their market value, most far less. No one "got paid". They all left money on the table and traded it for cash now. If you think Cook hasnt received a similar offer from Beane, you're delusional. I'm sure Beane has offered him the same type of team-friendly deal everyone else got. It's more that Cook wants more than a "team-friendly but cash now" deal, and is fine playing another year that will either cause Buffalo's offer to increase or let him hit the open market where he will definitely get paid. The idea that Beane is ignoring our 2nd best weapon on Offense, only behind the reigning league MVP, over a couple of social media posts is ridiculous. But whatever makes you feel superior about it. I didn't realize I was acting "superior" by expressing an opinion. And my opinion is taking things public right off sends a message that your paycheck matters more than your team. Funny you brought up our MVP QB who took less than market value when taking about second best offensive weapon. Edited 4 hours ago by PromoTheRobot Quote
Doc Brown Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Logic said: I'm fully abord team "Let Cook walk". He's a good back, but he's not so good that he deserves a big second contract, IMO. Draft a kid this year, let Cook play out the final year of his deal, and roll into 2026 with Davis, second year RB, Johnson as your depth chart. We'd have to roster four RB's then because I'm guessing drafting a rookie they believe can be the next Cook would get scooped off the practice squad. That's not happening. To me there's three options. First would be to just extend Cook. Second would be to not take a running back in the draft and draft Cook's replacement next year. Third would be to trade Cook and draft his replacement this draft. 1 Quote
klos63 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 3/10/2025 at 7:13 PM, Cubanmist said: Cook was good but not breathtaking good. He is replaceable. Let him walk! Makes no sense to let him walk. Jesus, he was tremendous last season and he'll probably be even more productive this coming season Is everyone just pissed because he posted on Instagram? I've never heard a fan base so set on getting rid of a star player who's still under contract. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: Makes no sense to let him walk. Jesus, he was tremendous last season and he'll probably be even more productive this coming season Is everyone just pissed because he posted on Instagram? I've never heard a fan base so set on getting rid of a star player who's still under contract. I'm not "pissed." And I'm not itching to get rid if him.. I'm just making an observation on his tactics, as in taking negotiations public immediately. Quote
Logic Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, klos63 said: Makes no sense to let him walk. Jesus, he was tremendous last season and he'll probably be even more productive this coming season To be fair, he just baaaaarely cracked 1,000 yards rushing. Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley and Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson...now THOSE dudes were tremendous! I think there's a tier break between the elite backs in the league and James Cook. He's pretty darn good, yes, but I tend to think that only the most elite backs in the league should get second contracts. MAYBE if they're a huge part of the passing game, you can justify extending them if they're less than elite. But even then, Ty Johnson is our 3rd down back, not Cook, and that likely won't change any time soon. I think any running back with a decent amount of talent will be successful behind this offensive line and in this scheme. We can agree to disagree though. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 12 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I didn't realize I was acting "superior" by expressing an opinion. And my opinion is taking things public right off sends a message that your paycheck matters more than your team. Funny you brought up our MVP QB who took less than market value when taking about second best offensive weapon. See below: On 3/10/2025 at 8:24 AM, DrDawkinstein said: Josh Allen has already made, as of today, over $174M. Plus, likely another $50-100M in endorsement deals. So he is currently sitting on over a quarter billion dollars. He just signed another contract which will pay him an additional $330M. And still has the earning power as a face-of-the-league QB to earn millions in endorsement deals the rest of his life. He'll likely be paid close to $1Billion by the time he is 40. James Cook has made $4M, and has ONE shot at a big contract to live off of the rest of his life (and any generational money to pass down). At an average of 3-4 years for extensions, he's trying to get a $45M total deal. Josh earns more in 1 year than Cook will earn in his entire career. It makes sense one is giving a "discount" to "only" $55M/year, while the other is working any angle he can to earn that amount spread out across his entire career(life). Quote
klos63 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Logic said: To be fair, he just baaaaarely cracked 1,000 yards rushing. Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley and Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson...now THOSE dudes were tremendous! I think there's a tier break between the elite backs in the league and James Cook. He's pretty darn good, yes, but I tend to think that only the most elite backs in the league should get second contracts. MAYBE if they're a huge part of the passing game, you can justify extending them if they're less than elite. But even then, Ty Johnson is our 3rd down back, not Cook, and that likely won't change any time soon. I think any running back with a decent amount of talent will be successful behind this offensive line and in this scheme. We can agree to disagree though. I think we're a better team with cook than without. We're trying to win the super bowl this season. No good reason to not keep him around. Plus, he still has a year on his contract. Besides 1000 yards, 18 TDS, regular season and playoffs. Can't forget the tds. 1 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, klos63 said: Makes no sense to let him walk. Jesus, he was tremendous last season and he'll probably be even more productive this coming season Is everyone just pissed because he posted on Instagram? I've never heard a fan base so set on getting rid of a star player who's still under contract. Yes. It's a bunch of old men crying over some emojis posted on social media. 6 minutes ago, Logic said: To be fair, he just baaaaarely cracked 1,000 yards rushing. Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley and Jahmyr Gibbs and Bijan Robinson...now THOSE dudes were tremendous! I think there's a tier break between the elite backs in the league and James Cook. He's pretty darn good, yes, but I tend to think that only the most elite backs in the league should get second contracts. MAYBE if they're a huge part of the passing game, you can justify extending them if they're less than elite. But even then, Ty Johnson is our 3rd down back, not Cook, and that likely won't change any time soon. I think any running back with a decent amount of talent will be successful behind this offensive line and in this scheme. We can agree to disagree though. To be fair about total yards rushing... Attempts: Barkley 345 Henry 325 Robinson 304 Gibbs 250 Cook 207 1 2 1 Quote
Simon Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 22 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes. It's a bunch of old men crying over some emojis posted on social media. Look at you over there pretending you're still 29 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Simon said: Look at you over there pretending you're still 29 haha, hey I'm old, but the youngest in this discussion! And even I know not to get worked up over social media. 1 Quote
Simon Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: And even I know not to get worked up over social media. That isn't because you're not old, it's because you're not stupid 👍 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Simon said: That isn't because you're not old, it's because you're not stupid 👍 A rare Simon compliment. I feel like I need to go jump into the "covid shutdown" thread so I can up those warning points and restore balance. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: A rare Simon compliment. I feel like I need to go jump into the "covid shutdown" thread so I can up those warning points and restore balance. LOL. I still have a Warning Point since Covid. None of the Mods know how to get rid of it. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Also, @PromoTheRobot, you know I love ya. And more power to you if you would never take to social media while you were in negotiations for millions of dollars. But there are a lot of bad inferences about Cook's situation being made in this thread. Go Bills. Just now, ColoradoBills said: LOL. I still have a Warning Point since Covid. None of the Mods know how to get rid of it. Get rid of it?!? No way! Hold onto it, its a medal from active duty. Collect them, earn them. It's like the old "If you aint rubbin, you aint racin" saying. 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 57 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes. It's a bunch of old men crying over some emojis posted on social media. To be fair about total yards rushing... Attempts: Barkley 345 Henry 325 Robinson 304 Gibbs 250 Cook 207 To be fair, if Cook could be left on the field to block, he would have picked up another 50+ carries they had to give away bc he was off the field so much. It’s not like you can run a no-huddle w him in bc he has to come out, then you can’t just put the other guys in to block or it’s an obvious run. His lack of carries are bc he’s extremely limited. I like the guy, but he is a 2 down back with suspect hands. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, klos63 said: I think we're a better team with cook than without. We're trying to win the super bowl this season. No good reason to not keep him around. Plus, he still has a year on his contract. Besides 1000 yards, 18 TDS, regular season and playoffs. Can't forget the tds. Do you really want a disgruntled player on your team?? Think Stefon Diggs Quote
klos63 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Solomon Grundy said: Do you really want a disgruntled player on your team?? Think Stefon Diggs Is he disgruntled? I want to sign him. He'll be gruntled, then. Diggs was very good, I'm glad he was on our team. I think even though our offense had a great year, most of us realized that a WR1 would have helped more. 1 Quote
Simon Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: A rare Simon compliment. I feel like I need to go jump into the "covid shutdown" thread so I can up those warning points and restore balance. That was a close call then because I almost went with "your so old you need to ask your kids to change your Gabe Davis avatar for you" Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, klos63 said: Is he disgruntled? I want to sign him. He'll be gruntled, then. Diggs was very good, I'm glad he was on our team. I think even though our offense had a great year, most of us realized that a WR1 would have helped more. He scrubbed all Bills content from his thread. I'd assume so Quote
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