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9 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ray Davis in his only start scrimmaged 150 total yards.

 

Can Davis and a mid round pick replace Cook? Probably not fully.
 

But if it's 80-85 percent production plus another 15 mil in cap space for the roster , then I'm choosing that for sure 

Lose alot of explosiveness going from Cook to Ray.  Jets run defense was also terrible this year.

 

Ray is a solid #2 right now.  Reminds me of Moss.

 

And it won't be $15m of cap.  If it's $15 aav, I'm sure we will have this structured to have an exit and avg way less than $15

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Posted
17 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Lose alot of explosiveness going from Cook to Ray.  Jets run defense was also terrible this year.

 

Ray is a solid #2 right now.  Reminds me of Moss.

 

And it won't be $15m of cap.  If it's $15 aav, I'm sure we will have this structured to have an exit and avg way less than $15

Cook is better no doubt. But you can't pay everyone. And running back is a pretty easy position to fill 

Posted
1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said:

He is fun to watch , I will give you that :)

Funny you mentioned that, as I just watched a '24 highlight reel.

 

With perspective gained from the season's distance, I'm further appreciating his core game.

 

Man, he really improved his 2nd level power and spatial awareness. I was freaking pumped all over again.

 

Now, as you and others allude, if he can only be relied on to 3rdD passpro...

Posted
3 hours ago, Magox said:


He had a good season but I wouldn’t consider it to be better stats.  He had 25% more carries than Cook with only about 120 more total yards and his epa was lower, had almost half a yard per carry lower, 10 less TD’s and he fumbled the ball 5 times and lost it 3 times vs Cook fumbling it once with none lost

You could argue total TDs Jones had 7 to Cook's 21. I agree with you no way Cook takes that kind of deal.

 

I don't understand so many posters are so happy with all the re-signings and raises handed out by Beane, yet want to squeeze Cook like a pimple. I'd offer the Shakir contract to him, I think it's fair

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7 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said:

You could argue total TDs Jones had 7 to Cook's 21. I agree with you no way Cook takes that kind of deal.

 

I don't understand so many posters are so happy with all the re-signings and raises handed out by Beane, yet want to squeeze Cook like a pimple. I'd offer the Shakir contract to him, I think it's fair


The running back market has been depressed over the past 5 years and that deflationary cycle is now being broke.   So it’s hard to break out of that thinking that RB’s are a dime a dozen and to pay over $10M is crazy.

 

Thats not the case any longer, teams are running it more and the cap is exploding, contracts for RB’s are going  up.  
 

Cook is a playmaker and our 2nd best offensive skilled player on the team.   They are going to sign him min, they’re just negotiating.  Cook rightfully believes he should be around $15M and the Bills are trying to get him for less. It’s taking a little time, I imagine a similar argument is going on with Benford as well.

Posted
10 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said:

You could argue total TDs Jones had 7 to Cook's 21. I agree with you no way Cook takes that kind of deal.

 

I don't understand so many posters are so happy with all the re-signings and raises handed out by Beane, yet want to squeeze Cook like a pimple. I'd offer the Shakir contract to him, I think it's fair


It’s because he’s a RB, who struggles in pass pro.  
 

Meaning we need to also pay for a reliable 3rd down back. 
 

If we don’t pay Cook, we can pay extra somewhere like corner… Chavarius Ward or safety.. Jevon Holland. 
 

To me, that makes way more sense than paying Cook. 
 

And heaven forbid we finally get JA top half of the league WR room. 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, SCBills said:


It’s because he’s a RB, who struggles in pass pro.  
 

Meaning we need to also pay for a reliable 3rd down back. 
 

If we don’t pay Cook, we can pay extra somewhere like corner… Chavarius Ward or safety.. Jevon Holland. 
 

To me, that makes way more sense than paying Cook. 
 

And heaven forbid we finally get JA top half of the league WR room. 

Bingo. RB is also the easiest position to fill.

 

If the O line is good, the Rb is gonna be good. If the o line sucks, the RB isn't gonna have much success.

 

Ray Davis in my opinion is average at best. And In the 1 game cook missed, he got 150 scrimmage yards

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