James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Nothing wrong with not wanting a RB to eat up a whole bunch of cap. I am of the mind we shouldn't either (even though I love Cook as a player).

 

But the insults and acting personally offended bc he's making it known he's not happy about how negotiations are going, which is based in his wanting to be here (or else why would he be upset with it?), by fans is ridiculous and unnecessary.

I don’t love it, but as a RB, I get it.
 

That said, he’s also not Saquon getting tagged.  Hes a 2 down RB until he learns how to pass pro, that has a year left on his deal.  
 

Where I just want him off the team for a draft pick is the not one, not two, but three or four comments/emojis he made in reference to the Saquon contract.  My man.. you are not Saquon, and you’ve made your point very known even prior to that.  

[BillsFan130]

47 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

Every worker should keep their mouth shut and take whatever management gives them?

No- But I don't think the boss would be particularly pleased if their workers complained on social media that they want more money.

 

I get it's not the end of the world and maybe I'm old school. (Even though I'm only 34 years old). But I think going to social media with contract stuff is just immature and isn't the right way to approach it 

[Jrb1979]

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

No- But I don't think the boss would be particularly pleased if their workers complained on social media that they want more money.

 

I get it's not the end of the world and maybe I'm old school. (Even though I'm only 34 years old). But I think going to social media with contract stuff is just immature and isn't the right way to approach it 

It's the way it is now with pro sports. Most don't make a big deal about it except this fanbase. 

[BillsFan130]

2 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

It's the way it is now with pro sports. Most don't make a big deal about it except this fanbase. 

Did Bernard , Shakir and Rousseau go to social media asking for money? Or did they handle it like professionals?

[Jrb1979]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Did Bernard , Shakir and Rousseau go to social media asking for money? Or did they handle it like professionals?

No they didn't.  Not every player is the same.  Just cause a guy has an ego and goes about wanting a new contract in different way, doesn't mean the fanbase has to run him out of town. 

[MasterStrategist]

6 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

No- But I don't think the boss would be particularly pleased if their workers complained on social media that they want more money.

 

I get it's not the end of the world and maybe I'm old school. (Even though I'm only 34 years old). But I think going to social media with contract stuff is just immature and isn't the right way to approach it 

First, last i checked most employers are not publicly posting their employees salary/contracts --- unless in a state/fed govt role.

 

Apples to oranges, every sports players contract is public knowledge.  Which is why I'm fine with players voicing/talking about it/advocating for themselves in Amy public fashion.

 

But to each their own and I respect anyone's opinion, old school or not. Just how it works in this day and age using social media.

 

Finally, it's the posters (and I'm not calling you out bc I haven't read your prior posts), that are being "extreme" that frustrate me.  "Get Cook off the team", "cut him, trade him", etc etc all based on his social media actions (which haven't been vulgar, demeaning of team. etc). 

 

At the end of day, cash is king and all that these extremist posters are doing is getting upset about nothing.  Cook will get his bag with us, or someone else, having an opinion on his salary/gtd money is fine.

 

When it crosses the line, IMO, is when fans somehow become offended and wanting him off the team.  Its a strange hill for some to die on.  Buckle up, because social media isn't going anywhere- this isn't the first or last time a player advocates for themselves on a platform.

 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I don’t love it, but as a RB, I get it.
 

That said, he’s also not Saquon getting tagged.  Hes a 2 down RB until he learns how to pass pro, that has a year left on his deal.  
 

Where I just want him off the team for a draft pick is the not one, not two, but three or four comments/emojis he made in reference to the Saquon contract.  My man.. you are not Saquon, and you’ve made your point very known even prior to that.  

 

He's not Saquon and he's not going to be paid like Saquon. He knows that. But when Saquon's getting 21m - his asking for 15m that fans were tearing him to shreds over and Beane wouldn't do, becomes a fair market value. It justified him. I'd be excited too.

[BillsFan130]

8 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said:

No they didn't.  Not every player is the same.  Just cause a guy has an ego and goes about wanting a new contract in different way, doesn't mean the fanbase has to run him out of town. 

The point is the vast majority of players don't go to social media asking for more money.
 

As you stated that "it's the way it is in pro sports"-  Implying that it's a common thing. It's really not common and I would say 99 percent (or more), don't go to social media asking for more money

Edited 16 hours ago by BillsFan130

[Warriorspikes51]

Is there a compromise here?  
 

offer him 12 and let him know if he takes another step, especially receiving and pass blocking….that we will re-do the deal

[MasterStrategist]

9 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Did Bernard , Shakir and Rousseau go to social media asking for money? Or did they handle it like professionals?

No but why does that matter?  Do you know what was said behind closed doors, either by said players or agents representing them?

 

You honestly can't expect every player/person to handle the situation in a way that you consider "professional".

 

It's your choice to look at Cooks comments, actions OR maybe get the news here somewhere else....

 

But consider that it is "your choice", to get a glimpse into that.  Like it or hate it, there is so much more happening behind the scenes. 

 

So to form ones opinion on such limited info, just seems foolish to me.  Again this doesn't seem to be bothering anyone around the organization except some sensitive fans right now.

 

 

[Jrb1979]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

The point is the majority of players don't go to social media asking for more money.
 

As you stated that "it's the way it is in pro sports"-  Implying that it's a common thing. It's really not common and I would say 99 percent (or more), don't go to social media asking for more money

You're right most players don't go to social media asking for money. What I'm saying is this the norm now of the diva players. 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Jrb1979 said:

You're right most players don't go to social media asking for money. What I'm saying is this the norm now of the diva players. 

Ok fair. So you're agreeing that he's being a diva then?

2 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

No but why does that matter?  Do you know what was said behind closed doors, either by said players or agents representing them?

 

You honestly can't expect every player/person to handle the situation in a way that you consider "professional".

 

It's your choice to look at Cooks comments, actions OR maybe get the news here somewhere else....

 

But consider that it is "your choice", to get a glimpse into that.  Like it or hate it, there is so much more happening behind the scenes. 

 

So to form ones opinion on such limited info, just seems foolish to me.  Again this doesn't seem to be bothering anyone around the organization except some sensitive fans right now.

 

 

It's an immature way of dealing with it. That's all I'm saying . Would you not agree with that?

[MasterStrategist]

14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ok fair. So you're agreeing that he's being a diva then?

It's an immature way of dealing with it. That's all I'm saying . Would you not agree with that?

Re: Immature...

 

I don't think it's immature at all.  He's not even saying anything, just $$$ amounts and emojis/reposting others comments.

 

Compare that to Myles Garrett, who most everyone wants right now, that is being much more direct/brash with his comments on social.media about that organization, leadership, other players.

 

That's just an example. 

 

Back to Cook specifically. Do I prefer players insinuate contract demands via social media?  No.  But I don't think he's being immature in how he has approached it,  and again not being brash at all.

 

My biggest "care" is winning a SB.  I think Cook is a team first player/person, and would greatly help us make that happen.  Hoping the #s will work themselves out.

[BillsFan130]

9 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Re: Immature...

 

I don't think it's immature at all.  He's not even saying anything, just $$$ amounts and emojis/reposting others comments.

 

Compare that to Myles Garrett, who most everyone wants right now, that is being much more direct/brash with his comments on social.media about that organization, leadership, other players.

 

That's just an example. 

 

Back to Cook specifically. Do I prefer players insinuate contract demands via social media?  No.  But I don't think he's being immature in how he has approached it,  and again not being brash at all.

 

My biggest "care" is winning a SB.  I think Cook is a team first player/person, and would greatly help us make that happen.  Hoping the #s will work themselves out.

I think where we disagree is how/where they are handling their business.

Cook , now multiple times has posted direct, and passive aggressive comments , (or emojis) that he wants more money on social media.

 

If Garrett put on social media that he wants out or gave passive aggressive comments, (like Diggs for example) then I would agree with you. But he didn't . He asked for a trade behind closed curtains and wrote a very classy letter after the fact .

 

I can't say I see any similarities at all between how cook and Garrett handled their business, respectfully.

 

I also think Garrett has earned the right to ask for a trade as he's a 8 year vet. Cook is still in his rookie contract 

Edited 15 hours ago by BillsFan130

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I think where we disagree is how/where they are handling their business.

Cook , now multiple times has posted direct, and passive aggressive comments , (or emojis) that he wants more money on social media.

 

If Garrett put on social media that he wants out or gave passive aggressive comments, (like Diggs for example) then I would agree with you. But he didn't . He asked for a trade behind closed curtains and wrote a very classy letter after the fact .

 

I can't say I see any similarities at all between how cook and Garrett handled their business, respectfully.

 

I also think Garrett has earned the right to ask for a trade as he's a 8 year vet. Cook is still in his rookie contract 

 

Garrett and Diggs want/wanted out and either made that known or went nuclear publicly to make that happen.

 

Cook wants the Bills to pay him.

 

There is no comparison there.

[Thrivefourfive]

Cook is playing for the Bills this season if he signs a team friendly extension, or decides to risk it all and play out his current deal. I believe neither is happening. Cook wants more money, and to the Bills he’s not worth it, because he isn’t. Sad but true. 
 

So how’s his trade value? Because he’ll holdout. Who are his buyers? He’ll need a new contract. Who’s up for that in a trade deal. I wouldn’t say Seattle, but who knows.. Walker is always hurt.  Cleveland? Chubb was fantastic but that’s over now right? Can’t stay healthy and the line has deteriorated. No QB. Would they like Cook? They could sell it to fans, right? He’s a young, emerging, gifted playmaker, and it can easily be argued that he’s on the rise. To the fans. Sales job for having to move Garrett. And you get a R1 & and a 2, and Cook.
 

Just trying to figure out the options here. Cook in Cleveland.. He’ll get paid, but his career will tank. They’ll use him like a three down back and at the goal line. He isn’t build for that. Period. Josh gets smashed. Cook is protected. But we all saw Cook pound out tough yards and take a big step forward last season. I was stoked. But what a shame with what he’s doing on social media.. talkin’ out his ass. He’d have to 180 to play for the Bills next season, so what can we get for this guy??

 

1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Garrett and Diggs want/wanted out and either made that known or went nuclear publicly to make that happen.

 

Cook wants the Bills to pay him.

 

There is no comparison there.

They want things, and acted on it publicly. There’s a comparison.

 

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[Steptide]

 

[BillsFan130]

6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Garrett and Diggs want/wanted out and either made that known or went nuclear publicly to make that happen.

 

Cook wants the Bills to pay him.

 

There is no comparison there.

Garrett didn't do anything "nuclear" in public to request a trade lol. In fact he was pissed it even leaked out- As he wanted to handle it within the building.

 

There's nothing wrong with Cook wanting more money. But posting it on social media and then making passive aggressive comments on social media when Saquon got paid, just screams out immaturity and diva behaviour 

[LyndonvilleBill]

While personally, I do not agree with how Cook is handling things, I just chalk it up to how kids are these days. All about getting attention.

 

Being on the older side myself,  I look at it as, you have an agent, you're paying him to do a job with your best interests in mind, let him do his job. If your not happy with the outcome then change agents or voice your opinion towards him. What's the sense of having an agent if you are basicically going around him?

 

As a manager for a large company/business myself, Cook's posts/actions just put you at the bottom of my list of priorities. I'll deal with you when I am ready. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't do anything with his contract until after the draft at this point. Heck, I might even bump him up on the list as part of a possible trade option (🫣). Great talent and would love to keep him, but, it is what it is. Team/business over individual preference. 😁

[DrDawkinstein]

49 minutes ago, LyndonvilleBill said:

While personally, I do not agree with how Cook is handling things, I just chalk it up to how kids are these days. All about getting attention.

 

Being on the older side myself,  I look at it as, you have an agent, you're paying him to do a job with your best interests in mind, let him do his job. If your not happy with the outcome then change agents or voice your opinion towards him. What's the sense of having an agent if you are basicically going around him?

 

As a manager for a large company/business myself, Cook's posts/actions just put you at the bottom of my list of priorities. I'll deal with you when I am ready. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't do anything with his contract until after the draft at this point. Heck, I might even bump him up on the list as part of a possible trade option (🫣). Great talent and would love to keep him, but, it is what it is. Team/business over individual preference. 😁

 

So as a manager and supposed leader, you have an equally immature reaction, decide to pout in the corner and give the silent treatment, and risk your company's (team's) success because you want to be butthurt over a few emojis? Ignore your top talent because of a couple social media posts?

 

I'd hope my leadership team would be above that, realize that the posts mean nothing, not let their emotions get the best of them, and stay on track with our top priorities.