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Posted
47 minutes ago, SCBills said:


For being “dudes”

 

What other players are out there doing what he’s doing?

 

How many separate emoji posts do we need from Cook about Saquon’s deal?

 

The closest player, in terms of contract etiquette at the moment, is Tee Higgins.  A guy who is being tagged for the second time by his team.   
 

(and yes, I’m biased.. I don’t want to pay a RB 10M, let alone what Cook is asking for)

 

Ja'marr Chase is publically demanding 40 million. Stafford demanded more money and got what he wanted. Barkley and Josh Jacobs did this exact thing last offseason. Players negotiate on social media all the time. 

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Posted
11 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Who would you give a 3 year $45 million contract to on offense.

 

Darius Slayton

Marquis Brown

James Cook


 

 

Cook. We drafted him, developed him, and he is great and makes plays for us. 

 

Let's reap the benefits and pay the player. 

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Posted
12 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Who would you give a 3 year $45 million contract to on offense.

 

Darius Slayton

Marquis Brown

James Cook


 

 

None.  I'd go after a corner with that money or bulk up at DT.

 

Slayton is intriguing but that's a big contract for him.. maybe that's what it takes, maybe not.  Although, our biggest issue on Offense last year was that nobody respects our outside receivers.. Slayton's speed would be a step in the right direction to knock teams out of man coverage and/or single high safety.   Which would in turn open things up underneath for guys like Shakir and Kincaid.

 

In terms of Offense.. I'm upgrading the outside WR room before I enter any contract talks with Cook.  Then if the money is still there and makes sense, ok.

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Cook has another on his contract @ a 5.7 million cap hit

If we let him playout this year on existing contract we can tag him for 2 more years. The 2nd years tag is 120% of the last years salary. 
[quote]A player being tagged for the second consecutive season is paid 120% of his previous year's salary. [/quote]

Exclusive Tag  $14M - $18M 

Non- Exclusive Tag  2 - 1st rd picks if any team signs him and we do not match

transition Tag  $12M - $16M


Doing the math it would cost aproxiamtely
$5.7M plus FT-1 $15M FT-2 $18M = $39.7M for 3 years

or 

$5.7 plus TT-1 $13M TT-3 $16M = $34.7M for 3 years

Numbers are ballpark.


That being said this is where Cook must look if he wants a contract extension. He needs to come in under the FT tag number otherwise the Bills/Beane can just use the tag numbers, and Cook is then gambling he will not get injured/ lose a step and kiss a solid contract goodbye.

 

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Posted
16 hours ago, SCBills said:


For being “dudes”

 

What other players are out there doing what he’s doing?

 

How many separate emoji posts do we need from Cook about Saquon’s deal?

 

The closest player, in terms of contract etiquette at the moment, is Tee Higgins.  A guy who is being tagged for the second time by his team.   
 

(and yes, I’m biased.. I don’t want to pay a RB 10M, let alone what Cook is asking for)

 

 

Then you aren't interested in winning. 

 

This Bills should have pulled the trigger on McCaffrey or Barkley when they had the chance.  

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2 hours ago, ddaryl said:

Cook has another on his contract @ a 5.7 million cap hit

If we let him playout this year on existing contract we can tag him for 2 more years. The 2nd years tag is 120% of the last years salary. 
[quote]A player being tagged for the second consecutive season is paid 120% of his previous year's salary. [/quote]

Exclusive Tag  $14M - $18M 

Non- Exclusive Tag  2 - 1st rd picks if any team signs him and we do not match

transition Tag  $12M - $16M


Doing the math it would cost aproxiamtely
$5.7M plus FT-1 $15M FT-2 $18M = $39.7M for 3 years

or 

$5.7 plus TT-1 $13M TT-3 $16M = $34.7M for 3 years

Numbers are ballpark.


That being said this is where Cook must look if he wants a contract extension. He needs to come in under the FT tag number otherwise the Bills/Beane can just use the tag numbers, and Cook is then gambling he will not get injured/ lose a step and kiss a solid contract goodbye.

 

He can ask what the tag is.  With his current year and void years they can manipulate the cap for it to be less than the tag would be.  I dont care what the Bills spend moneywise.  Capwise it’s easier and less of a cap hit to swallow now if tagging him is an option. I could careless less if Buffalo saves 4.7 mil over 3 years when his cap will likley be higher and more difficult to maneuver during.  It’s Ralph cash to the cap *****.  They have a unicorn at Qb go all in every year until he is done.  Unwilling to get aggressive with void years is a cop out.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

Then you aren't interested in winning. 

 

This Bills should have pulled the trigger on McCaffrey or Barkley when they had the chance.  

If the Bills had wanted to pay an RB, they could have had D Henry for $9M.  But the Bills philosophy has been not to give big money to RBs. 

 

And if they broke it for a drafted player, the idea of J Cook at $15M is too high - but maybe if it is just a bogus $15M like a Shakir deal I could see it.  J Cook just needs to stay off social media for a while,  IMO he is losing the fanbase.

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4 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

If the Bills had wanted to pay an RB, they could have had D Henry for $9M.  But the Bills philosophy has been not to give big money to RBs. 

 

And if they broke it for a drafted player, the idea of J Cook at $15M is too high - but maybe if it is just a bogus $15M like a Shakir deal I could see it.  J Cook just needs to stay off social media for a while,  IMO he is losing the fanbase.

Barkleys 20 is bogus.  It’s always bogus. Shakir deal for Cook is super fair.  Maybe it was offered and he declined it idk. 

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33 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

He can ask what the tag is.  With his current year and void years they can manipulate the cap for it to be less than the tag would be.  I dont care what the Bills spend moneywise.  Capwise it’s easier and less of a cap hit to swallow now if tagging him is an option. I could careless less if Buffalo saves 4.7 mil over 3 years when his cap will likley be higher and more difficult to maneuver during.  It’s Ralph cash to the cap *****.  They have a unicorn at Qb go all in every year until he is done.  Unwilling to get aggressive with void years is a cop out.



Like I said  "That being said this is where Cook must look if he wants a contract extension. He needs to come in under the FT tag number otherwise the Bills/Beane can just use the tag numbers, and Cook is then gambling he will not get injured/ lose a step and kiss a solid contract goodbye."

you don't have to pay more and add void years to make it work. We basically have Cook for 3 more years without a new contract (if we have no need to tag someone else). Void years still count against the cap regarding bonuses, so there will be dead money with void years. I agree void years can be a creative way to keep the cap low but if we do not have to then do not.

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I disagree.  Gotta play by the rules your competition is playing.  The Eagles have a better roster because they spend 300 mil more cash then Buffalo. That is the weapons Buffalo is lacking and the non existent pass rush.  Extent Cook at the lowest possible cap hits for 25 and 26.  Provide the space required to swallow a vet salary that is traded for.  After 26 NFL has an out in multiple Media deals.  A re-up will sky rocket the cap in 27 and beyond. 

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37 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

If the Bills had wanted to pay an RB, they could have had D Henry for $9M.  But the Bills philosophy has been not to give big money to RBs. 

 

And if they broke it for a drafted player, the idea of J Cook at $15M is too high - but maybe if it is just a bogus $15M like a Shakir deal I could see it.  J Cook just needs to stay off social media for a while,  IMO he is losing the fanbase.

 

This is his livelihood and his 1 and only shot a big contract.  Who gaf about what the fan base thinks?

 

Remove Cook from this offense and then what?  What do the Bills have outside of Allen?  

 

Take note from Roseman and pay your talent, and when at all possible add more.  

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Posted
18 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Who would you give a 3 year $45 million contract to on offense.

 

Darius Slayton

Marquis Brown

James Cook


 


marquis brown is coming off 1 year 7m and didn’t improve his stock. 
 

so like 2 Hollywood browns and some coin leftover or cook 

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