SoonerBillsFan Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, MasterStrategist said: Get a grip man.... Scrubbed his social media, lol. You might have a problem if you think that's intended as an insult to Buffalo/fans. Take a deep breathe, and realize we have a borderline great RB. If anyone is still clinging to the thought that Ray Davis is taking significant snaps from Cook or anywhere near his skill level, just delusional. Cook is our best playmaker, not named Josh Allen...facts. You don't easily replace his explosiveness/elite vision and quickness. 18 TDs was no accident, and he's shown improvement every season. I don't need to get a grip. If you can't see fans are pissed. As for as me, I dont give a damn if he is here or not. Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 35 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I don't need to get a grip. If you can't see fans are pissed. As for as me, I dont give a damn if he is here or not. How dare he scrub his social media of Bills references?! This is the hill you die on, wow. Report back this Fall, on your last sentence... 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 14 hours ago Author Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 7 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: I don't need to get a grip. If you can't see fans are pissed. As for as me, I dont give a damn if he is here or not. *Some fans* are pissed. Most fans just look at it as a pretty common thing players do when negotiations aren't going well or just in general in the offseason and feel like 15m is too much to ask. The small percentage of fans that are for some reason pissed off and personally insulted and especially the ones that are hurling insults - do need to get a grip. Edited 13 hours ago by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote
Kelly to Allen Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago James Cook is a good RB. He's also replaceable.... The oline was borderline awesome this year. 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If he was truly offended, he wouldn't gush about his growth. It's just be "James is a very good player and we'll see what happens on the business side. He has given similar answers in the past. IMO it was smart and mature. Nothing wrong with reminding Cook who helped him get to where he is now and how much they like/love him as a person and player. Doing so publicly sends that message to the fans as well as him. 1 Quote
Sweats Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Given the fact that in a lot of short yardage situations, we relied on JA to get the yards or do the ole tush push for the yardage and not put the ball in Cook's hands to gain the minimal yardage, tells me that they don't really trust him to get the down or the gain. He is expendable at this point. No hard feelings, nothing personal.......it's business, so if he's not back next season, i can live that. Quote
Mat68 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: Given the fact that in a lot of short yardage situations, we relied on JA to get the yards or do the ole tush push for the yardage and not put the ball in Cook's hands to gain the minimal yardage, tells me that they don't really trust him to get the down or the gain. He is expendable at this point. No hard feelings, nothing personal.......it's business, so if he's not back next season, i can live that. I dont recall Cook getting stuffed often. 16 TDs tells me he is fine short yardage. Against the Chiefs they didn't have a pivot when the sneak was getting stopped. Until that point though it was a 95% plus success rate. The eagles tush push isnt an indictment on Barkley. I have said multiple times and continue to say with the Cap increasing and spiking in a few years Buffalo is in a position to extend Cook and not infringe on any other roster move. Without a mega deal and Cook being included to save a premium pick, trading Cook for a pick this offseason is a lateral or backwards move. Quote
SCBills Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 48 minutes ago, Mat68 said: I dont recall Cook getting stuffed often. 16 TDs tells me he is fine short yardage. Against the Chiefs they didn't have a pivot when the sneak was getting stopped. Until that point though it was a 95% plus success rate. The eagles tush push isnt an indictment on Barkley. I have said multiple times and continue to say with the Cap increasing and spiking in a few years Buffalo is in a position to extend Cook and not infringe on any other roster move. Without a mega deal and Cook being included to save a premium pick, trading Cook for a pick this offseason is a lateral or backwards move. I guess the easiest one for one, given he’ll make somewhere between 11-15M would be would you rather have James Cook or Darius Slayton and a RD3 pick. Slayton is a guy rumored to potentially be on our board as a vertical speed threat and his projected contract could be somewhat in line with what Cook is looking for based on some contract projections. A RD3 pick being a moderate estimate of what Cook would go for in a player for pick trade. For me, it’s not about Cook.. he’s very good.. it’s just about paying a non-elite RB that much money when we desperately need to add outside WR speed and multiple DL upgrades. Quote
Mat68 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 47 minutes ago, SCBills said: I guess the easiest one for one, given he’ll make somewhere between 11-15M would be would you rather have James Cook or Darius Slayton and a RD3 pick. Slayton is a guy rumored to potentially be on our board as a vertical speed threat and his projected contract could be somewhat in line with what Cook is looking for based on some contract projections. A RD3 pick being a moderate estimate of what Cook would go for in a player for pick trade. For me, it’s not about Cook.. he’s very good.. it’s just about paying a non-elite RB that much money when we desperately need to add outside WR speed and multiple DL upgrades. This. 1000% this. Why would anyone be ok paying Slayton 15 mil per and thumb your nose at Cook at 15 mil? Slayton 3 years older has never had an above average season. Slayton is not a top 40 Wr. A middle rd wr you 100% can get that type of wr and at a significantly lower price. Why trade an above average player for a below average player? Rb is so depressed it’s where the actual value lie. Wrs are as much a dime a dozen as Rb. Why pay a wr when you can draft Shakir in the 4th. You hit on a Rb you pay them half you would hitting on a wr. I think Cook is closer to elite than many believe him to be. He was clearly the best player on offense not named Josh Allen. With the added flexibility with void years and structuring of contract, what ever Cooks deal, however it ends up, wouldn't limited Buffalo from making other improvements. This is probably why Cook is adamant about 15 mil per. Guys like Slayton are getting it why wouldn't he? Keep the strength the strength without weakening it to fix their weaknesses. Their is plenty of money to go around. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago It's unheard of for Beane to come out and say directly to the media "we aren't on the same page" with a player's contract expectations. This quote is telling. Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's unheard of for Beane to come out and say directly to the media "we aren't on the same page" with a player's contract expectations. This quote is telling. Beane offers 9, Agent wants 15 , settle at 12 ? Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 13 minutes ago Author Posted 13 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: It's unheard of for Beane to come out and say directly to the media "we aren't on the same page" with a player's contract expectations. This quote is telling. It is. I was just talking to my Dad about when it comes to Beane's words, he's always going to give a diplomatic or non-answer and that you have to read between the lines. This isn't much of a read between the lines situation. Like you've said, I've never heard him flat out say "we're not on the same page right now". To me, that seemed like he was putting it out there to see if it would illicit other GM's approaching him about a Trade. Not to say that Cook can't or won't be retained. But it felt like something he threw out into the ether to get a look at all of his options. Edited 12 minutes ago by BillsFanForever19 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 5 hours ago, Mat68 said: This. 1000% this. Why would anyone be ok paying Slayton 15 mil per and thumb your nose at Cook at 15 mil? Slayton 3 years older has never had an above average season. Slayton is not a top 40 Wr. A middle rd wr you 100% can get that type of wr and at a significantly lower price. Why trade an above average player for a below average player? Rb is so depressed it’s where the actual value lie. Wrs are as much a dime a dozen as Rb. Why pay a wr when you can draft Shakir in the 4th. You hit on a Rb you pay them half you would hitting on a wr. I think Cook is closer to elite than many believe him to be. He was clearly the best player on offense not named Josh Allen. With the added flexibility with void years and structuring of contract, what ever Cooks deal, however it ends up, wouldn't limited Buffalo from making other improvements. This is probably why Cook is adamant about 15 mil per. Guys like Slayton are getting it why wouldn't he? Keep the strength the strength without weakening it to fix their weaknesses. Their is plenty of money to go around. Cook was in PFF's top 101 NFL players for 2024. His 4.9 yards per carry was 5th behind Barkley, Henry, Gibbs & Irving. He had 2800 yards+ from scrimmage the last 2 years plus 24 TDs. He is without question the 2nd best skill player on the team behind Josh. Only 16 RBs hit 1000 yards last season while 22 WRs accomplished the feat. It's pretty clear that WRs are now very overpaid and RBs underpaid. That will be changing. Nearly all the playoff teams had balanced offenses and that doesn't happen without a good running game. Pay the man, he's earned the extension. It's not like the contract will be forever. Give him the same deal you gave Shakir and lock down a critical piece of your offense. By the way here is a good trivia question. Who has carried the ball more between college and the NFL, Ray Davis or James Cook? Ray Davis - 859 carries to Cook's 763. Davis had 746 carries in college alone. Just food the thought. Quote
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