James Cook on IG Live - "15 mill year" EDIT: Scrubbed his IG and Doubled Down on Twitter

[GoBills!]

If cook holds out and Davis performs well it will hurt Cooks value as people will say it’s the Bills scheme, Josh and the line that made his season great. 
 

I would pay him 8 mill a year for 3 years all guaranteed with 2 million in incentives but if he wants 15 million trade or let him sit. 

Edited Monday at 05:03 AM by GoBills!

[Mister Defense]

1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

You say stupid many times here, but the reasons for getting rid of Lynch were all about his off field issues and the likelihood that he would do something massively stupid to be hit hard by the league. The fact that he later kept his nose clean is hind sight. 

That situation is nothing like the one with Cook who is a clean guy off the field. 

 

Yup, what happened with Lynch was as dumb as what some are calling for in the case of Cook.  The things Lynch did were not huge red flags, but the actions by a young player new to the league making stupid mistakes.

 

He was not used well at all by Gailey, and that is why the Bills had to showcase him in the game before the trade deadline when, of course, Lynch showed he was the best player on the team, field, and one of the top in the league. He was soon traded for almost nothing. He lead them to several Super Bowls and is a sure fire first ballot Hall of Famer.

 

Cook did the same kinds of thing this year, and looked better and better, as all great players at his age tend to do. He is one of the top backs in the league, one of the best at running and catching, with elite speed, vision, and toughness.

 

Many used the fact to support the Lynch trade that we had a good running back in 30+ year old Freddy Jackson to be the featured back.  Lynch, like Cook now, was disposable to the ultra dumb fans who could not see the forest through the trees.

 

Sad how some people, who don't  use facts much, cannot see beyond their own misguided thoughts and strange whims.  But I am confident the Bills pay Cook very well, and soon.  If not, they will look as dumb as those who traded away Lynch.

 

 

Edited Sunday at 04:39 PM by Mister Defense

[hondo in seattle]

7 hours ago, akinko_kd said:

Negotiating by making a fuss on social networking sites is unacceptable.
The team does not need a player who behaves like that, no matter how good he is.
I used to be in favor of signing Cook to an extension, but now I am the opposite.

 

I hear you but all I care about is whether a player practices hard, plays well, and is a good teammate.  How they go about their negotiations is irrelevant to me as long as it doesn't involve a long sit-out.  

[Mister Defense]

3 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I hear you but all I care about is whether a player practices hard, plays well, and is a good teammate.  How they go about their negotiations is irrelevant to me as long as it doesn't involve a long sit-out.  

 

Exactly.

 

That is why this stupidity, call for this horrendous move by the Bills, is so much like what some ignorant posters were saying about Lynch--he is a thug, and not that good anyway, look at home many yards he has this year, and that Fred Jackson is very capable, even better probably, so let's get rid of Lynch. We don't need him, easily replaceable...

 

And then, with so much nonsense guiding their 'thought' 'process', most were quite pleased by the fact the Bills got a 4th round and conditional pick (5th round) for by far the best player on the Bills, one of the best running backs and players in the NFL.  Ignorance often makes for supremely bad  analysis and conclusions and this is a very clear example of that.

 

 

If we Ignore all kinds of facts and reality, and are okay being guided by nonsense, fabrication, then yes, let's get rid of Cook. 

Easily replaceable, as Lynch was. 

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

18 hours ago, FireChans said:

Eugene Parker right?

 

he died and the Bills started getting FAs again.

 

That's the name. Rest in piss.

 

 

(lol, is that harsh? Go Bills)

 

 

6 hours ago, akinko_kd said:

Negotiating by making a fuss on social networking sites is unacceptable.
The team does not need a player who behaves like that, no matter how good he is.
I used to be in favor of signing Cook to an extension, but now I am the opposite.

 

No one in the Bills FO cares about the social media posts as much as you do, or at all really. No one in the locker room either.

 

Thank god the fans dont run the team.

[Albwan]

I don't think they value him that high, why was he sitting in the afc championship game at the end

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Mister Defense said:

 

Exactly.

 

That is why this stupidity, call for this horrendous move by the Bills, is so much like what some ignorant posters were saying about Lynch--he is a thug, and not that good anyway, look at home many yards he has this year, and that Fred Jackson is very capable, even better probably, so let's get rid of Lynch. We don't need him, easily replaceable...

 

And then, with so much nonsense guiding their 'thought' 'process', most were quite pleased by the fact the Bills got a 4th round and conditional pick (5th round) for by far the best player on the Bills, one of the best running backs and players in the NFL.  Ignorance often makes for supremely bad  analysis and conclusions and this is a very clear example of that.

 

 

If we Ignore all kinds of facts and reality, and are okay being guided by nonsense, fabrication, then yes, let's get rid of Cook. 

Easily replaceable, as Lynch was. 

 

 

Meh, I’m okay with trading Cook because I think selling high on a running back I’m not sure I want to pay is just good business. 
 

The off the field or social media stuff is irrelevant except for the number he supposedly wants.

 

Getting Cook with a late second, him having two great years, then moving on and getting a third round pick is tremendous value to me. Two years of borderline elite RB play to move down a round? 

[3rdand12]

15 minutes ago, Albwan said:

I don't think they value him that high, why was he sitting in the afc championship game at the end

I just trust in McBeanes to manage this matter at the end of the day.

I really like the three headed threat of Davis , Ty and Cook. Hoping we keep them all ( maybe upgrade Gore Jr )

And he's back on a deal both are pleased with so we can just go back to winning games.

[FireChans]

33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

That's the name. Rest in piss.

 

 

(lol, is that harsh? Go Bills

It’s been close to a decade so I’ll allow it.

 

His client list is a who’s who of guys who were problems with the Bills. Peters, Byrd, Sammy etc 

Edited Sunday at 06:19 PM by FireChans

[Straight Hucklebuck]

10 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Meh, I’m okay with trading Cook because I think selling high on a running back I’m not sure I want to pay is just good business. 
 

The off the field or social media stuff is irrelevant except for the number he supposedly wants.

 

Getting Cook with a late second, him having two great years, then moving on and getting a third round pick is tremendous value to me. Two years of borderline elite RB play to move down a round? 

Yeah that might all compute until you see who this GM has selected before:

 

Devin Singletary (3rd)

Zack Moss (3rd)

Traded conditional 6th and Moss for Nyheim Hines

James Cook (2nd)

Ray Davis (4th) 

 

Taiwan Jones, Chris Ivory, Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon, Matt Breida, Leonard Fournette, Latavius Murray, Damian Harris, Ty Johnson. 
 

Using Cook as a chip is one thing, but Cook is easily the best RB this team has had in 7-years of Josh Allen.

Seeing a lot of Chargers emerging as trade partners - what are they giving the Bills - Derwin James? A first round pick? 
 

Or is it the usual 3rd? Which is nothing.

 

So the Bills lose 250-touches and gain a 3rd Rounder - so almost assuredly they lose firepower as they flip all their resources to try and become the Philadelphia Eagles a year too late. 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

45 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Meh, I’m okay with trading Cook because I think selling high on a running back I’m not sure I want to pay is just good business. 
 

The off the field or social media stuff is irrelevant except for the number he supposedly wants.

 

Getting Cook with a late second, him having two great years, then moving on and getting a third round pick is tremendous value to me. Two years of borderline elite RB play to move down a round? 

Your point here is totally fair. While I’m on record that he should be back, that logic is sensical. People saying that they got good mileage out of him and should deal him while is value is high, make sense. People that think he’s really valuable but the Bills should “send a message because of social media posts” are completely clueless. 🤣🤣

 

Whatever decision the Bills make will be made through the lens of “what’s best for business?” The social media stuff is a non-factor no matter how bunched up some posters on TBD’s panties get. 

Edited Sunday at 06:56 PM by Kirby Jackson

[Low Positive]

The problem with paying Cook has nothing to do with social media posts, "value," or the new NFL truism to "never pay RBs." I just don't like paying a guy that has to come out for obvious passing downs because he can't block. That's why he wasn't on the field for the most important drive of the season. But I don't like trading him because there is never any value for RBs in trades unless they are essentially WRs like CMC. So I don't know what I would do. I'm glad I don't have to make that choice.

Edited Monday at 12:54 AM by Low Positive

[Ya Digg?]

1 hour ago, Albwan said:

I don't think they value him that high, why was he sitting in the afc championship game at the end

I’m not sure how anyone can come to this conclusion. To me this seems like a “I don’t like that Cook said something on Instagram so now I’m trying to justify why the Bills shouldn’t pay him or get rid of him”

[BADOLBILZ]

42 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah that might all compute until you see who this GM has selected before:

 

Devin Singletary (3rd)

Zack Moss (3rd)

Traded conditional 6th and Moss for Nyheim Hines

James Cook (2nd)

Ray Davis (4th) 

 

Taiwan Jones, Chris Ivory, Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon, Matt Breida, Leonard Fournette, Latavius Murray, Damian Harris, Ty Johnson. 
 

Using Cook as a chip is one thing, but Cook is easily the best RB this team has had in 7-years of Josh Allen.

Seeing a lot of Chargers emerging as trade partners - what are they giving the Bills - Derwin James? A first round pick? 
 

Or is it the usual 3rd? Which is nothing.

 

So the Bills lose 250-touches and gain a 3rd Rounder - so almost assuredly they lose firepower as they flip all their resources to try and become the Philadelphia Eagles a year too late. 

 

 

 

Why are we "assured" that the Bills lose firepower in trading Cook?   As I illustrated,  Cook was just a top 20 producer in terms of rushing yards.   What if they select a RB who can actually play all 3 downs in round 3?   Might even find that in round 4 or 5.   Cook would have been a day 3 pick in this loaded RB draft.  

 

In my estimation Cook went from a good 2 down RB whose production was inflated by scheme, OL quality and the particular QB he had in 2023 to a very good 2 down RB whose production was inflated by those things.   He's not a great player.   The Bills had to take him off the field on a lot of high leverage/passing downs to maximize his efficiency in 2024.

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Yeah that might all compute until you see who this GM has selected before:

 

Devin Singletary (3rd)

Zack Moss (3rd)

Traded conditional 6th and Moss for Nyheim Hines

James Cook (2nd)

Ray Davis (4th) 

 

Taiwan Jones, Chris Ivory, Frank Gore, TJ Yeldon, Matt Breida, Leonard Fournette, Latavius Murray, Damian Harris, Ty Johnson. 
 

Using Cook as a chip is one thing, but Cook is easily the best RB this team has had in 7-years of Josh Allen.

Seeing a lot of Chargers emerging as trade partners - what are they giving the Bills - Derwin James? A first round pick? 
 

Or is it the usual 3rd? Which is nothing.

 

So the Bills lose 250-touches and gain a 3rd Rounder - so almost assuredly they lose firepower as they flip all their resources to try and become the Philadelphia Eagles a year too late. 

 

They are faced with the same decision next season, so yeah? They get a third, and they don’t have a gigantic RB contract bound to be a waste.

 

In a vacuum, would I rather keep Cook? Of course, he’s a nice player. But would I lose sleep over $15M and a third instead of him? Not for a second.

 

Because RB’s still don’t matter much. 

[SCBills]

I’d trade Cook for a 2nd Round Pick asap, if it’s offered. 
 

If we’re being offered a 3rd.. it’s tough..

 

On one hand, we could use him next year and get a comp pick for him the following year.

 

On the other hand, he knows that and may not want to play without a contract. 
 

I’d probably pull the trigger on a middle 3rd tbh.

 

Our biggest focus this offseason needs to be fixing the Defense and finding Josh reliable down the field threats to open things up for our slot guys and tight ends.   Our running game engine is JA’s dual threat ability and our OL.. 

 

We relied on Davis for one game and he was a star…

[JoshAllin]

If anyone is crazy enough to trade cook for a stud defensive player that'd be great

Edited Sunday at 08:42 PM by JoshAllin

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Why are we "assured" that the Bills lose firepower in trading Cook?   As I illustrated,  Cook was just a top 20 producer in terms of rushing yards.   What if they select a RB who can actually play all 3 downs in round 3?   Might even find that in round 4 or 5.   Cook would have been a day 3 pick in this loaded RB draft.  

 

In my estimation Cook went from a good 2 down RB whose production was inflated by scheme, OL quality and the particular QB he had in 2023 to a very good 2 down RB whose production was inflated by those things.   He's not a great player.   The Bills had to take him off the field on a lot of high leverage/passing downs to maximize his efficiency in 2024.

I am 100% with you. 
 

If Beane doesn’t pay Cook - trades him as part of a DE move or just for assets AND then replaces him with a PREMIUM RB in the Draft. All good.

 

Wherever you draw that line - for me it’s something like Hampton, Johnson, Judkins, Henderson, Sampson. Wherever your line is - you’re thinking it’s Round 4 and 5. 

 

But that’s R2 for me and so I don’t want to hear Chris Brown hyping up our 5th Round compensatory pick and Ty Johnson as replacements.

 

Otherwise you’re hoping Bhayshul Tuten can step right in and be an RB1. 

[DrDawkinstein]

35 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Why are we "assured" that the Bills lose firepower in trading Cook? 

 

Because Cook has 1 ability that no other RB currently on the roster, or on the Bills in the last 10-15 years has had: the ability to take it to the house on any given play.

 

He's a one-man deep threat. If he gets to the 2nd level clean, look out. Poyer learned the hard way as he watched Cook blow right by him.

 

You have great stats and analysis comparing numbers. Fine. Make those say whatever you want. But neither Ray Davis nor Ty Johnson are breaking off a 50yd TD run anytime soon. Cook had MULTIPLE this year alone.

 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

11 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I am 100% with you. 
 

If Beane doesn’t pay Cook - trades him as part of a DE move or just for assets AND then replaces him with a PREMIUM RB in the Draft. All good.

 

Wherever you draw that line - for me it’s something like Hampton, Johnson, Judkins, Henderson, Sampson. Wherever your line is - you’re thinking it’s Round 4 and 5. 

 

But that’s R2 for me and so I don’t want to hear Chris Brown hyping up our 5th Round compensatory pick and Ty Johnson as replacements.

 

Otherwise you’re hoping Bhayshul Tuten can step right in and be an RB1. 

 

 

You are shooting for upgrades over Cook.   Which would be ideal but remember what Cook was when they selected him.   He's become almost the opposite of what was expected.  

 

You don't NEED a 350 touch guy like Hampton or Judkins in this offense.   I like Henderson a lot though.   WAY more sophisticated prospect than Cook was.

 

I am hoping Brashard Smith falls to the Bills in round 4.   Hoping he runs like a 4.55 or something at Indy because he plays fast, sudden and instinctive.   Always been a favorite of mine since he was at the U.  4 star WR but just couldn't beat out Xavier Restrepo for slot reps and wasn't big enough to play the boundary and the Canes always have 4 star RB's to feed so he didn't get much of a chance there.   He's really natural at RB and a better prospect than Tyrone Tracy, IMO.   He showed great ball security on 274 touches last year too so not as much of a projection as Tracy was so he should go much sooner.