gonzo1105 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I think it’s an interesting scenario to keep an eye on. I think it’s funny because I think both team and player need each other. I think the Bills need his speed and pass catching ability with their offensive system and I don’t think that Cook is effective in every offensive system in the NFL. I mean I’d pay the guy 11-12 on a 3-4 year deal gladly but 15 is too much. With that said he has 1 year left in his deal, and then the Bills could exercise the franchise tag in 2026 when they can get out of a lot of their contracts with minimal dead cap. If you have any doubt about Cook beyond the next year or two(if franchised) then take another back to pair with Ray Davis in the future in the mid rounds this year and carry 4 backs. It’s a deep draft and the Bills have 10 picks and a RB might make sense in round 4 or 5 3 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 12 Posted February 12 38 minutes ago, SCBills said: Yes, that's the model. The problem is none of these players, except maybe Cook, are game changers. And Cook immediately torpedoes his value to us by wanting to get paid 15M per. And we pay guys like Knox, Milano and Oliver as game changers and none of them are. Is Bernard a game changer? No, he's a good player. Is Benford a game changer? No, he's a good player. Is Shakir a game changer? No, he's a good player. Is Rousseau a game changer? No, he's a good player. And part of the reason we can't get over the hump is due to tying up so much money and draft assets in good, not great, players. That's the conversation at the heart of this offseason. On here it's how much stomach do the fans have for roster surgery to go after a difference maker(s). Ultimately, it's going to be reading between the lines and looking at OBD history for us fans to guess what Brandon Beane will do. 3 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted February 12 Posted February 12 14 hours ago, ghostwriter said: He’s worth it. He should be a priority. He’s worth every penny. If Allen is having a bad game Cook can carry the team. He's not a complete back. He plays 45% of the snaps. If he could pass protect, I'd have no problem paying him like a feature back. 1 Quote
Big Blitz Posted February 12 Posted February 12 That’s best RB in the NFL money. No. Just no. I’d give him 3 years at 8 to 12 million max. He can then get another contract still in his prime. And he’ll have plenty of miles left because he’s utilized right. 1 Quote
somnus00 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I sincerely would like to thank him for everything he has done for this team. And I hope he gets his 15 million from some team in the NFL...just not from Buffalo. 4 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 36 minutes ago, BillytheKid said: Trade him with a couple of first rounders for Myles Garrett. Then draft a RB and we still have Ray Davis. Sign Ty Johnson back. Browns will never take players back or contracts back, especially a high priced RB. They are in tank for 2 years mode to get out of cap disaster, worst in history, thanks to Watson's deal. They are going to stock pile draft capital that can return cheap contracts and be foundations of the future after the franchise destroying Watson impact is gone. Quote
sunshynman Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I like Cook. He's not getting 15 from the Bills or anyone else. Give him max 12 with some incentives. We would be better off spending 25 a year for an edge or DT then giving Cook 15. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted February 12 Posted February 12 26 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Browns will never take players back or contracts back, especially a high priced RB. They are in tank for 2 years mode to get out of cap disaster, worst in history, thanks to Watson's deal. They are going to stock pile draft capital that can return cheap contracts and be foundations of the future after the franchise destroying Watson impact is gone. Cook a 1st and 4th for Maxx Crosby? 1 Quote
BRH Posted February 12 Posted February 12 The issue I have is he’s negotiating in public. That’s his right, but what have the Bills and Beane done to make him do that? Time and again they’ve proven they take care of the guys they want to keep. If he truly wanted to stay here and be paid fairly, he’d tell his agent to get a deal done, and he’d shut up (and tell his loudmouth washed-up brother to shut up) until it was done. He wants the entire bag and doesn’t particularly care where he gets it. Again, that’s his right. I have no hard feelings. It’s a business. But when people tell you who they are, believe them. 6 Quote
RyanC883 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: I think it’s an interesting scenario to keep an eye on. I think it’s funny because I think both team and player need each other. I think the Bills need his speed and pass catching ability with their offensive system and I don’t think that Cook is effective in every offensive system in the NFL. I mean I’d pay the guy 11-12 on a 3-4 year deal gladly but 15 is too much. With that said he has 1 year left in his deal, and then the Bills could exercise the franchise tag in 2026 when they can get out of a lot of their contracts with minimal dead cap. If you have any doubt about Cook beyond the next year or two(if franchised) then take another back to pair with Ray Davis in the future in the mid rounds this year and carry 4 backs. It’s a deep draft and the Bills have 10 picks and a RB might make sense in round 4 or 5 I think year 2 Davis and draft picks with bringing Johnson back make up for Cook Quote
harmonkillebrew Posted February 12 Posted February 12 can't fault him for asking. that's how negotiations go. start high. what's his rookie deal cap hit? An extension might even bring it down.....? 1 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: He's not a complete back. He plays 45% of the snaps. If he could pass protect, I'd have no problem paying him like a feature back. he’s not on the field for the season’s most important drive. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) Interesting …noted Company shill Sal Capaccio reminding everyone on WGR that Beane has never paid a running back … 3 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: he’s not on the field for the season’s most important drive. He should have been Edited February 12 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I’d pay him between Alvin and Barkley, closer to Alvin. Quote
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Couple thoughts 1) Bills have an elite O-Line and Cook produced at a great, but not elite level. Ray Davis played just as well in the game that Cook missed due to injury. 2) 15 mil is not completely outlandish, but it's definitely too high. I doubt any team in the NFL would pay him that much 3) He's entering the 4th year of his rookie contract and doesn't have any leverage in a hold out. We could franchise tag him after the 2025 season and pay less than 15 mil 4) Beane tends to get Bills guys to re-sign at a discount. A discounted Cook contract is probably in the 9 mil range 3 Quote
Warcodered Posted February 12 Posted February 12 16 hours ago, JimmyNoodles said: Everyone wants a trade chip. Here you go. This honestly does make perfect sense, either you make the deal and extend him, or you trade him when he's at his highest value because you're comfortable with the guy behind him and who you can get in the draft. Just playing out his contract is kind of an all in on this next year kind of decision, the other two put you in a better position going forward. 3 Quote
uticaclub Posted February 12 Posted February 12 33 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Interesting …noted Company shill Sal Capaccio reminding everyone on WGR that Beane has never paid a running back … He should have been He never had a RB that needed to get paid, Shady was done & Singletary isn't that good 1 1 Quote
Ga boy Posted February 12 Posted February 12 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: I think it’s an interesting scenario to keep an eye on. I think it’s funny because I think both team and player need each other. I think the Bills need his speed and pass catching ability with their offensive system and I don’t think that Cook is effective in every offensive system in the NFL. I mean I’d pay the guy 11-12 on a 3-4 year deal gladly but 15 is too much. With that said he has 1 year left in his deal, and then the Bills could exercise the franchise tag in 2026 when they can get out of a lot of their contracts with minimal dead cap. If you have any doubt about Cook beyond the next year or two(if franchised) then take another back to pair with Ray Davis in the future in the mid rounds this year and carry 4 backs. It’s a deep draft and the Bills have 10 picks and a RB might make sense in round 4 or 5 From draft day, there’s been no bigger Cook cheerleader than me, but 15 is too much. The very top would be 12 with incentives. If we write checks for a difference makers DE and WR, then trade him the day after for a draft pick, unless we tag him. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ga boy said: From draft day, there’s been no bigger Cook cheerleader than me, but 15 is too much. The very top would be 12 with incentives. If we write checks for a difference makers DE and WR, then trade him the day after for a draft pick, unless we tag him. He has got one more year on his contract at $5m … what are we getting for him in a trade ? Might be better to keep him and let him play for a new deal elsewhere in 26 whilst they go for it all in 2025… probably get a 4th Comp pick for him anyways Edited February 12 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote
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