build through the trenches

[nuklz2594]

eagles gm has drafted either an olinemen or dlinemen in the first round of EVERY draft since he has been the gm.

worked out pretty well. eagles lines are elite.

YO beanie...stop being the alleged smartest guy in the room.

[Pete]

Beane has spent plenty of resources on DL-Rousseau, Oliver 1st round picks.  AJ 2nd round pick. $140 million Von.  High draft picks Boogie, Harrison.  FA signing Williams, Star, etc  Very little return on investment.

 

The problem is not that we ignore the DL.  The problem is missing again and again.

 

Ive always been a big Beane fan.  But his failures on DL, with our 1st round picks, and ignoring WR, my patience is wearing thin.

Edited 5 hours ago by Pete

[JerseyBills]

We're set at OL. 

Daquan also fell off a cliff after an elite first season here 

Carter looked great before the injury 

 

Wouldn't mind 2 DL in the first 3 picks. 

[london_bills]

Hurts was able to hit deep a few times, we need a good fast WR for Allen aswell

[fasteddie]

Beane and McDermott are bound and determined to acquire small and fast defensive linemen. Unfortunately, the only thing the ends are good at is running 10 yards past the qb. And the tackles are too small to overpower the o-line.

Until they get some of the "big uglies", their zone defense will always leave huge holes where QB's like Burrows and Mahomes eat them alive.

[BarleyNY]

58 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

eagles gm has drafted either an olinemen or dlinemen in the first round of EVERY draft since he has been the gm.

worked out pretty well. eagles lines are elite.

YO beanie...stop being the alleged smartest guy in the room.

That’s not even close to true. He took Mitchell, a corner, in the first this year. Also he took WRs a couple times recently - Reagor and Smith. 

[Magox]

If the Bills don’t trade for Myles Garrett then they should look to draft two of these.

 

 

[Dr. Who]

6 minutes ago, Magox said:

If the Bills don’t trade for Myles Garrett then they should look to draft two of these.

 

 

Even if they get Garrett, they should think about drafting two.

[Bill from NYC]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Beane has spent plenty of resources on DL-Rousseau, Oliver 1st round picks.  AJ 2nd round pick. $140 million Von.  High draft picks Boogie, Harrison.  FA signing Williams, Star, etc  Very little return on investment.

 

The problem is not that we ignore the DL.  The problem is missing again and again.

 

Ive always been a big Beane fan.  But his failures on DL, with our 1st round picks, and ignoring WR, my patience is wearing thin.

Do you excuse McDermott? I find it impossible to believe that Beane has autonomy, or even the deciding vote on who to draft and when. 

 

Many seem to forget that when the Bills traded the Mahomes pick to KC and drafted Tre White, Beane wasn't even with the team. It would even appear that McDermott brought him in. 

 

I suppose that Beane is easier to scapegoat.

[Sweats]

There's some good D talent coming out this draft.........i would pity any team that's relying on any half decent O talent though cause this draft is one for the ages in terms of crap.

[Pete]

5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Do you excuse McDermott? I find it impossible to believe that Beane has autonomy, or even the deciding vote on who to draft and when. 

 

Many seem to forget that when the Bills traded the Mahomes pick to KC and drafted Tre White, Beane wasn't even with the team. It would even appear that McDermott brought him in. 

 

I suppose that Beane is easier to scapegoat.

I blame Beane.  McDermott probably gives draft and personal input.  But Beane ultimately makes the roster decisions IMO.  

[Gregg]

16 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Do you excuse McDermott? I find it impossible to believe that Beane has autonomy, or even the deciding vote on who to draft and when. 

 

Many seem to forget that when the Bills traded the Mahomes pick to KC and drafted Tre White, Beane wasn't even with the team. It would even appear that McDermott brought him in. 

 

I suppose that Beane is easier to scapegoat.

 

The Bills have been one of the best teams since Beane and McDermott got here. I doubt Beane would stay here as a puppet GM. If he left the Bills, he would be unemployed for about 5 seconds. Same with McDermott. I am sure McDermott has input and both of them have had numerous conversations on improving the team. But as the GM Beane has the final say on building the roster. As I mentioned I don't think he would stay to be a puppet GM for Sean.

Edited 3 hours ago by Gregg

[SoMAn]

1 hour ago, london_bills said:

Hurts was able to hit deep a few times, we need a good fast WR for Allen aswell

As great as Allen is, his Achilles heel is poor timing on those long, over the shoulder, rainbow arcing balls that are so pretty when they connect (like the one Hurts threw that sealed the game for the Eagles).

Josh can throw a ball 60 yards on a frozen rope, but rarely have we seen him throw a long ball in the air in which the receiver didn't have to slow down to make the catch, or where the ball sails just out of reach.  

Josh is good on crossing patterns, but the vertical timing passes aren't his strong suit. I still think we need some speed and quickness on the outside - a WR who can get separation consistently and possibly draw double coverage.

Not of fan of Coleman. If he were a 4th round pick I'd be inclined to give him more latitude, but like the Elam pick, I think this was another desperation reach by Beane.

Reinforce the D-line with penetrating DTs who can also stuff the run, and then find the WR in FA.

[Dablitzkrieg]

1 hour ago, fasteddie said:

Beane and McDermott are bound and determined to acquire small and fast defensive linemen. Unfortunately, the only thing the ends are good at is running 10 yards past the qb. And the tackles are too small to overpower the o-line.

Until they get some of the "big uglies", their zone defense will always leave huge holes where QB's like Burrows and Mahomes eat them alive.

I hope this philosophy will change this draft.  McD has shown he is not as stubborn as he has been in the past.   Hopefully he and Beane show growth and get bigger

[MrEpsYtown]

I agree. I just think its so funny that we went through 3 years of "The Bills need to draft a wide receiver high" rhetoric and "they need to stop throwing picks at the defense" logic. Give Josh weapons! 

 

And now we have circled back around to "the defense is the problem. We need defensive linemen."

 

I just think it is funny. But I think it is very likely defensive line is going to be super high on the wish list. Hopefully, the Bills can trade for one of Garrett or Crosby. 

 

Maybe there is a Parsons trade built around Kincaid and picks since we stole him from them two years ago? 

Edited 3 hours ago by MrEpsYtown

[uticaclub]

8 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

The Bills have been one of the best teams since Beane and McDermott got here. I doubt Beane would stay here as a puppet GM. If he left the Bills, he would be unemployed for about 5 seconds. Same with McDermott. I am sure McDermott has input and both of them have had numerous conversations on improving the team. But as the GM Beane has the final say on building the roster. As I mentioned I don't think he would stay to be a puppet GM for Sean.

Just because Beane & McDermott would get jobs with last place teams isn’t a reason for a super bowl contender to keep them.

[ProcessTruster]

1 hour ago, JerseyBills said:

We're set at OL. 

Daquan also fell off a cliff after an elite first season here 

Carter looked great before the injury 

 

Wouldn't mind 2 DL in the first 3 picks. 

Carter will be a force this season.   Patience.   The injury was unfortunate, but you cannot now just ignore the guy like he isn't there. 

 

Guessing they grab the Michigan DT (Grant) in the first if he falls that far.  

 

Then everyone will be pissing that they didn't go WR in the 1st.   Sigh. 

[zow2]

I used to think Beane WAS the smartest guy in the room.  That Josh Allen pick got a lot of mileage.  But the shine is off...

 

Beane is at the plate, he's behind in the count, and he needs to hit a home run asap.

[Pete]

Just now, ProcessTruster said:

Carter will be a force this season.   Patience.   The injury was unfortunate, but you cannot now just ignore the guy like he isn't there. 

 

Guessing they grab the Michigan DT (Grant) in the first if he falls that far.  

 

Then everyone will be pissing that they didn't go WR in the 1st.   Sigh. 

Not true.  In conductor of the WR train.  Grant would be an awesome 1st round pick.  DT is super deep in this draft.  I want DT with 2 of our first 3 picks.  I want S, Edge, CB too.  But we still need a #1 WR.  That’s all I’m asking. Don’t ignore WR for 5 years, then add Keon and think we are set.  Devote every draft pick, and FA $ on D, with the exception of adding one excellent WR.  

[Gregg]

6 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

Just because Beane & McDermott would get jobs with last place teams isn’t a reason for a super bowl contender to keep them.

 

I agree. At some point they need to get over the hump. The Eagles moved on from Reid and he took them to a Super Bowl as well as a bunch of NFCCG appearances. My point was I don't think Beane would stay with Buffalo if he was a puppet GM. He could easily get another GM job with another team.