TheFunPolice Posted February 11 Posted February 11 I would need to see some longevity. Getting to 2 Super Bowls in such a short span is pretty impressive, though. IMO it's as much or more about the fact that the Eagles are a Pro Bowl roster on both sides of the ball with excellent coordinators. Quote
DapperCam Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Nah, his roster was possibly the best in the NFL (along with the Ravens) and his DC was incredible this year. He gets some points for steering the ship, but I don’t think he’s a top 5 coach. McVay and Reid are the two best coaches in the league IMO. 1 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted February 11 Posted February 11 20 hours ago, Beast said: Eagles fans wanted this guy fired last season. He was an idiot then. What changed? Quote
Man with No Name Posted February 11 Posted February 11 So they just lost Moore. How extensive was his role with the team, and did their offense really change from what it was the two prior years? Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 11 Posted February 11 20 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: It's funny because before yesterday tons of people here would swear Andy Reid is the best coach In NFL history Now he's already could been passed by siriani soon If it's that quick to get passed... Maybe Andy Reid was never close to being the best coach in NFL history He's a Hall of Fame coach for sure.. I said yesterday before the game he's not Bill belichick.. and I stand by that Yea I feel like if he lost a close one here or if they battled but lost a two score game or something like that my view of Reid wouldn’t have changed at all.. but that KC offensive staff pretty much just sh*t itself this game lol Maybe some was mahomes going rogue it’s tough to factor for that but it looks like the coaches were intent on running the same long developing zone beater plays that just weren’t working without attempting any of the quick hitters behind the line of scrimmage stuff they’ve been known for or running the ball at all Quote
Livinginthepast Posted February 11 Posted February 11 Reid is a great coach and I'm glad he won a SB but there's been several big games where he has been exposed as completely clueless as to how to adjust when things were going poorly. I think this last SB is probably one of the worst games he's ever coached. The TB SB loss and the last loss to Brady in the AFCCG were also great examples of Reid being a deer in the headlights. Sirianni, did a great job in focusing his team this year and that demolition of the Chiefs will probably be seen as his finest hour. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 11 Posted February 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, Man with No Name said: Sirianni knows his place and he knows he has a good deal going. There's something to be said for Being smart enough to stay out of your own way. every head coach wants to do that imo just some don’t have that luxury. Not sure he should get any credit for that IF that’s his only strength as a head coach (it may not be…tough to know what goes on behind closed doors). Imagine Reid shipping off full playcalling duties to Matt Nagy? Lol Edited February 11 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted February 11 Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: Reid is a great coach and I'm glad he won a SB but there's been several big games where he has been exposed as completely clueless as to how to adjust when things were going poorly. I think this last SB is probably one of the worst games he's ever coached. The TB SB loss and the last loss to Brady in the AFCCG were also great examples of Reid being a deer in the headlights. Sirianni, did a great job in focusing his team this year and that demolition of the Chiefs will probably be seen as his finest hour. Idk if this is sacrilege even on a bills board haha but I really think a lot of the chiefs problems in a game like that is mahomes but people don’t think they can blame mahomes. I have been goin back and forth on it though as you can see from my other post 🤣. I think Reid could’ve done more to help him out a bit so I’m not sure exactly how to split the blame though. The guys footwork is terrible and he just blindly steps up in the pocket into multiple pass rushers after dancing around for awhile in those heavy pressure situations. The chiefs were just constantly off schedule because mahomes was driving them backwards which took so much of their playbook off the table. Feels like they just don’t go through adversity enough for him to improve in that area. Josh did the same early in his career and just went through the meatgrinder of the chiefs and ravens type defenses of the league and he’s definitely improved Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted February 11 Posted February 11 He's king of the mountain this season. Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted February 11 Posted February 11 21 hours ago, Chaos said: Andy Reid is generally viewed as tops, in large part to being 2-1 in the last three super bowls. Siriani went to two of those three and is 1-1. Where do you place him in the pantheon of current NFL head coaches? The best coach to me is one that does the most with the least. Kevin O’Connell has to be up there. Dude went 14-2 with Sam Darnold. Think about that… Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 11 Posted February 11 21 hours ago, Chaos said: Andy Reid is generally viewed as tops, in large part to being 2-1 in the last three super bowls. Siriani went to two of those three and is 1-1. Where do you place him in the pantheon of current NFL head coaches? Guy has an immensely talented roster and works under who I consider to be the best GM in football. He coaches in the NFC without a lot of great teams at the top. He's in a dream situation...but that doesn't make him the "best coach". I think if you put a lot of coaches in his spot they have about the same success. I will give him credit for being able to assemble a good staff, however. Give me a coach that does more with less. Quinn last year, heck Gannon out in Arizona. Getting more from their roster than many would think. That's a better coaching job in my eyes. 44 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: every head coach wants to do that imo just some don’t have that luxury. Not sure he should get any credit for that IF that’s his only strength as a head coach (it may not be…tough to know what goes on behind closed doors). Imagine Reid shipping off full playcalling duties to Matt Nagy? Lol People love to rag on Nagy...but the dude made the playoffs TWICE with Trubisky as his QB. I'd like to see him get a second chance somewhere. Quote
Mikie2times Posted February 11 Posted February 11 21 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: He's way ahead of McDermott It’s easier to ask if McD could have done what he did this year. Again, the guy was handed two coordinators he didn’t choose. He was asked to be the CEO and basically let those two run each side of the ball. I don’t see this working for a guy like McD. It wouldn’t work for most HC’s in the NFL. Maybe the only reason it worked for him was he had no choice. But something to be said for focusing on managing your business as whole a HC, letting new concepts in, etc. 1 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted February 11 Posted February 11 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is a great roster and two great coordinators. All of which are Howie Roseman (who has total control of player personnel and made both coordinator hires over his HC's head last February). I am not saying Sirianni stinks. But honestly, I think he was one of the least consequential Head Coaches to a Superbowl winner in my 20 odd years watching the sport. This was a Howie Roseman Superbowl win. He for sure built a good team. But I think saying it is Howie Roseman super bowl win is implying that any mediocre to average coach can go to 2 of the past 4 super bowls (And winning one). Which I would disagree with. Look at Tony Dungy for example- Had a top 5 QB of all time, with at least 4 hall of famers on his roster. And only went to 1 Super bowl in 7-8 seasons with the Colts. Roseman built a great team no doubt- But I think Sirianni deserves more credit than he is getting, and he for sure is maximizing the talent Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 12 Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: He for sure built a good team. But I think saying it is Howie Roseman super bowl win is implying that any mediocre to average coach can go to 2 of the past 4 super bowls (And winning one). Which I would disagree with. Look at Tony Dungy for example- Had a top 5 QB of all time, with at least 4 hall of famers on his roster. And only went to 1 Super bowl in 7-8 seasons with the Colts. Roseman built a great team no doubt- But I think Sirianni deserves more credit than he is getting, and he for sure is maximizing the talent I think Sirianni is fine. He isn't a bad coach but he isn't a great one. He had an awesome roster and two awesome coordiantors that he didn't hire. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think Sirianni is fine. He isn't a bad coach but he isn't a great one. He had an awesome roster and two awesome coordiantors that he didn't hire. Fair- I guess I give him a bit of more props because he has had great success without an elite QB. (And as we know, it's a QB driven league) Hurts is good, but he's probably in the 5-8 range. Edited February 12 by BillsFan130 Quote
billsfan714 Posted February 12 Posted February 12 Where is the love for a WNY guy from Jamestown? Quote
Jauronimo Posted February 12 Posted February 12 This really wasn't so long ago. Head coach and QB had issues. QB and star receiver had issues. The team basically quit down the stretch of 2023. I expect a little bit more from a supposed top two coach. https://atozsports.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles-news/nfl-insider-confirms-the-eagles-had-a-locker-room-problems-all-along-in-2023/ Quote
Man with No Name Posted February 12 Posted February 12 9 hours ago, billsfan714 said: Where is the love for a WNY guy from Jamestown? same place as the love for a WNY guy who won a bunch of rings with brady Quote
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