This is now on Beane, no question he needs to step up.

[Mike in Horseheads]

11 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

God, this thread is so depressing- because it’s all true…😢

Go with God Crispy!  

[JaCrispy]

6 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Go with God Crispy!  

Lol… You love it! 😉

[billieve420]

I don't know think organization has been too focused on high floor low ceiling leader type players. Team has been willing to overlook talent for players they believe fit the culture and system they have built.

 

 

[Sweats]

6 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I don't know think organization has been too focused on high floor low ceiling leader type players. Team has been willing to overlook talent for players they believe fit the culture and system they have built.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And that's a problem.

I understand high culture players; however, talent has to be at the top of the list as well.

 

People can't tell me that there are no high culture talented players out there and if there are, then why can't our FO identify them?

[ddaryl]

26 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I don't know think organization has been too focused on high floor low ceiling leader type players. Team has been willing to overlook talent for players they believe fit the culture and system they have built.

 

 

 

 

This sums up the way I feel. Finding personality types who play well instead of choosing players who may or may not fit well, personality wise,  but can ball

Edited Wednesday at 09:09 PM by ddaryl

[Gregg]

20 minutes ago, billieve420 said:

I don't know think organization has been too focused on high floor low ceiling leader type players. Team has been willing to overlook talent for players they believe fit the culture and system they have built.

 

 

 

If they are going all in for the rest of Allen's prime years, then talent has to be priority #1. Get some elite level talent here on both sides of the ball to help Allen bring a championship to WNY.

[ddaryl]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

If they are going all in for the rest of Allen's prime years, then talent has to be priority #1. Get some elite level talent here on both sides of the ball to help Allen bring a championship to WNY.

 

They better be going all in for Allen's prime future... We need to take advantage of void years and make some bold moves. Philly turned out ot be the team I dream the Bills should be with Allen at the helm

[wppete]

If Beane misses again in the draft and McDermott doesn’t get this team over the hump the Bills meed to move on and let them go. Change is needed. 

[ganesh]

4 hours ago, wppete said:

If Beane misses again in the draft and McDermott doesn’t get this team over the hump the Bills meed to move on and let them go. Change is needed. 

what changes do you propose on this defense.

[Berky1010]

Beane is one of the more savvy GM’s when it comes to trading veterans/free agency but not so with drafting. He whiffed on Von but he also suffered an irreparable setback for his age. Players like Micah, Poyer, Rasul, Floyd were great adds. Letting Edmunds walk and letting go vets like Tre were also essential. He’s a solid GM but does need to release decision making to an extent on draft night

[DaVinci]

Beane should just trade picks for Garrett. I have no confidence in his scouting any longer.

[Buffalo716]

7 hours ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

 

And that's a problem.

I understand high culture players; however, talent has to be at the top of the list as well.

 

People can't tell me that there are no high culture talented players out there and if there are, then why can't our FO identify them?

It's also a load of crap to think that our team wants choir boys without talent lol

 

You don't get to our point differential over the last 6 years with choir boys with no talent 

 

Von Miller has been accused of assaulting a woman he's not exactly Saint Teresa

[Richard Noggin]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

It's also a load of crap to think that our team wants choir boys without talent lol

 

You don't get to our point differential over the last 6 years with choir boys with no talent 

 

Von Miller has been accused of assaulting a woman he's not exactly Saint Teresa

 

Von was an example of Beane AND McDermott stepping outside their comfort zones to get that defensive "closer" they've lacked. Beane for giving that much money and term to an aging guy with potentially BAD knees (drunken doc--who was part of local team that scanned Miller was--ran his mouth at a restaurant I worked for, claiming that Vonn's knees were an obvious red flag; this is that first summer he was signed). And McDermott for deferring at times to Miller's entitlement (heard it from Miller's own mouth, at that same restaurant, that he'd been caught by McDermott for staying out past curfew, and while McD did not punish Miller or make an example of him, he did at least "address [him] as a man" and appeal to his better angels as a team leader and role model.

 

Wish it had worked out better. 

 

(Mother Teresa was a bit of a psycho tbh. Crazy stuff.)

[Kelly to Allen]

4 hours ago, Berky1010 said:

Beane is one of the more savvy GM’s when it comes to trading veterans/free agency but not so with drafting. He whiffed on Von but he also suffered an irreparable setback for his age. Players like Micah, Poyer, Rasul, Floyd were great adds. Letting Edmunds walk and letting go vets like Tre were also essential. He’s a solid GM but does need to release decision making to an extent on draft night

 

I agree generally. Although my faith in this regime has lost momentum with the same issues on defense in the AFC championship. 

 

I will say if we add Garrett or Crosby I'll be ecstatic. Simultaneously it's important to not get tunnel vision on a big trade when this draft is loaded in dline all across the top 120 picks. 

 

It could be a greater move to keep all our picks, and use free agency to fill out our needs. It does feel like if we do make a big trade it has the feeling of 2 steps forward 1 step back...

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 2/10/2025 at 5:37 PM, Logic said:

I agree.

Beane has been good at hitting singles and doubles and even the occasional triple his whole GM career, but he too rarely hits homeruns. 

The Bills don't have enough difference makers. Don't have enough "very good to elite" players. Sure, he drafts guys that stick around the league and are in the "pretty good to good" category. But he doesn't draft enough KILLERS.

And no, the "we pick too late in every draft" thing is not an excuse, and I hate when Beane says any version of it.

I like Brandon Beane overall as a GM, but I agree: When it comes to evaluating college talent and drafting, Brandon Beane needs to step it up, ESPECIALLY in rounds 1 and 2.

I think McBeane should give there old buddy Mr Gettleman a call to help them in the draft. Hire him as a draft consultant and let make the picks especially in first 2 rds. Gettleman was pretty damn good at that threw out his career. 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 2/10/2025 at 9:41 PM, Thrivefourfive said:

He needs to use that first and move up to draft where the studs get drafted 

Jerad Verse and Chop Robinson was right there for the taking last yr just needed to move up a couple spots. 

[Sweats]

7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

It's also a load of crap to think that our team wants choir boys without talent lol

 

You don't get to our point differential over the last 6 years with choir boys with no talent 

 

Von Miller has been accused of assaulting a woman he's not exactly Saint Teresa

 

 

 

 

.............he's not exactly producing on the field either.

[Kelly to Allen]

Is it a terrible idea to sign Hollywood brown and draft Golden Rd 1?

 

as the weeks have gone by I've become more concerned about how Coleman was after the injury and the adjustments secondaries were making against him. I understand he was a rookie but I just don't want to go through what we went through this year with the wide receiver room I'd much rather have more than enough talent there especially when you obviously have a great quarterback like Allen. It's also not the end of the world if Coleman is still a really good big play number three receiver I can live with that similar to Gabe Davis

 

Having two second round picks gives us the flexibility to address the defensive line still 

Edited yesterday at 12:33 PM by Kelly to Allen

[LABILLBACKER]

On 2/19/2025 at 12:42 PM, billieve420 said:

I don't know think organization has been too focused on high floor low ceiling leader type players. Team has been willing to overlook talent for players they believe fit the culture and system they have built.

 

 

More ceiling 

Less character 

[Buffalo ill]

Assuming Bean is the one who makes the decision on draft day, if he didn't draft Allen, he would already be fired.

 

If McDermott is the one drafting ineffective linemen with early picks, he needs to he banned from the draft room.