This is now on Beane, no question he needs to step up.

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, Old Coot said:

I agree that our eveluation process for draft picks needs to be better.

 

That said, presumably McD or the relevent asst coaches are part of the e v a l process. I can't imagine that Beane makes his decisions without that input.

 

To my mind, Elam has been the biggest miss to date. He's terrible and McD knows it. When questioned at half-time of the Chiefs game about who will step up with Benford sidelined (it was Elam) McD momentarily had a deer-in-the-headlights look becore recovering his poise.

I'm pretty sure McDermott literally said kaire Elam is going to make plays for us in the second half 

 

He said that without batting an eye

[brianthomas]

With the few changes to our coaching staff, I'm actually hopeful that we've correctly identified what needs to change on Defense. Now our focus should be on executing those changes & we'll begin to see what those are soon, which is exciting.

But while it is on Beane to bring in the right players, its on everyone to get it right. We need more pressure up front & more man to man from our dbs.. at a minimum. Bring on the draft & Myles Garrett!

[ShakAttack]

Howie Roseman has received a lot of praise for his massive draft success in recent years, but it wasn't always that way.  For a period of about 7 years, Roseman was heavily criticized for missing on several draft picks.

 

So, what changed?

 

There is a rumor that Roseman purchased an NFL Draft Bot a few years ago that takes every draft prospect and generates an aggregate rating based on individual ratings from the most highly regarded draft prospect analysts.

 

When it is the Eagles turn to pick, NFL Draft Bot simply outputs the best available player (BPA) and that is who the Eagles and Roseman proceed to select.

 

It isn't rocket science, people, it's NFL Draft Bot.

 

Get 'er done, Beane! And stop listening to your QB for draft advice. That isn't rocket science, either.

[Since1981]

I’ve always believed in taking the best player available. The days of drafting for scheme fit are outdated in free agency. With players and coaches constantly on the move, pure scheme stability is rare. You take the best talent and adapt to them.

[strive_for_five_guy]

[Gen2]

Isn't the Madden player rankings kinda like a draft bot????

 

Seems to be working for the Jets

 

😂🤣😜🤪

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

35 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:

Howie Roseman has received a lot of praise for his massive draft success in recent years, but it wasn't always that way.  For a period of about 7 years, Roseman was heavily criticized for missing on several draft picks.

 

So, what changed?

 

There is a rumor that Roseman purchased an NFL Draft Bot a few years ago that takes every draft prospect and generates an aggregate rating based on individual ratings from the most highly regarded draft prospect analysts.

 

When it is the Eagles turn to pick, NFL Draft Bot simply outputs the best available player (BPA) and that is who the Eagles and Roseman proceed to select.

 

It isn't rocket science, people, it's NFL Draft Bot.

 

Get 'er done, Beane! And stop listening to your QB for draft advice. That isn't rocket science, either.

it’s not rocket science…it’s Bot Science.

 

[JohnNord]

37 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:

Howie Roseman has received a lot of praise for his massive draft success in recent years, but it wasn't always that way.  For a period of about 7 years, Roseman was heavily criticized for missing on several draft picks.

 

So, what changed?

 

There is a rumor that Roseman purchased an NFL Draft Bot a few years ago that takes every draft prospect and generates an aggregate rating based on individual ratings from the most highly regarded draft prospect analysts.

 

When it is the Eagles turn to pick, NFL Draft Bot simply outputs the best available player (BPA) and that is who the Eagles and Roseman proceed to select.

 

It isn't rocket science, people, it's NFL Draft Bot.

 

Get 'er done, Beane! And stop listening to your QB for draft advice. That isn't rocket science, either.

Did the bot tell him to select Jaelin Raeger over Justin Jefferson 🤣

 

You’re correct about Roseman’s reputation though.  A reminder that success doesn’t come overnight 

[djp14150]

24 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

I’ve always believed in taking the best player available. The days of drafting for scheme fit are outdated in free agency. With players and coaches constantly on the move, pure scheme stability is rare. You take the best talent and adapt to them.

It works to a point, but you also need to balance your needs.

 

if the BPA was a QB shoukd the bills draft a QB in round 1?  No.  If you drafted say 2 DL in the first 2 picks you shouldn’t draft a 3rd one just because it spit back at you.

 

you factor in teams needs 

 

you also know by overall grades how deep a draft is. You coukd have a bunch with top50 ratings thrn the rest at that position are mid 6th rounders or later. In another drsft you might not have many with high grades in 1st or 2nd but you have many rated outside the top 100 for day 3 picks.

[Since1981]

4 minutes ago, djp14150 said:

 

if the BPA was a QB shoukd the bills draft a QB in round 1?  No.  If you drafted say 2 DL in the first 2 picks you shouldn’t draft a 3rd one just because it spit back at you.

 

It never comes down like that. You should pick best player available. you’d have 2 position grades so close it wouldn’t matter which you picked. By 2nd round your pick slot has a couple position grades equal. 

[Augie]

49 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:

Howie Roseman has received a lot of praise for his massive draft success in recent years, but it wasn't always that way.  For a period of about 7 years, Roseman was heavily criticized for missing on several draft picks.

 

So, what changed?

 

There is a rumor that Roseman purchased an NFL Draft Bot a few years ago that takes every draft prospect and generates an aggregate rating based on individual ratings from the most highly regarded draft prospect analysts.

 

When it is the Eagles turn to pick, NFL Draft Bot simply outputs the best available player (BPA) and that is who the Eagles and Roseman proceed to select.

 

It isn't rocket science, people, it's NFL Draft Bot.

 

Get 'er done, Beane! And stop listening to your QB for draft advice. That isn't rocket science, either.

 

Apparently that beats the hell out of Bill Belichick’s dog! 

[The Jokeman]

53 minutes ago, ShakAttack said:

Howie Roseman has received a lot of praise for his massive draft success in recent years, but it wasn't always that way.  For a period of about 7 years, Roseman was heavily criticized for missing on several draft picks.

 

So, what changed?

 

There is a rumor that Roseman purchased an NFL Draft Bot a few years ago that takes every draft prospect and generates an aggregate rating based on individual ratings from the most highly regarded draft prospect analysts.

 

When it is the Eagles turn to pick, NFL Draft Bot simply outputs the best available player (BPA) and that is who the Eagles and Roseman proceed to select.

 

It isn't rocket science, people, it's NFL Draft Bot.

 

Get 'er done, Beane! And stop listening to your QB for draft advice. That isn't rocket science, either.

I was expecting you to say this guy https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/front-office/tom-donahoe

[The Firebaugh Kid]

The defensive strategy needs to change, and we need to stop drafting people because they’re “nice guys”. 

[BillMafia716ix]

You want to draft good football players. Doesn't matter what round you get them in. 
 

 

[DrPJax]

2 hours ago, DeltaDigital said:

we can absolutely expect the DL to be lights out in 1 year. PHI did it. and they rode it all the way to the superbowl trophy. Demand more from these guys. they all must do better. 

        You’re right , but demand anything you want , as a fan you will never be listened too or Cary any influence , unless you have the $ to speak to that owners or regime. Thats just nfl facts.  Marv said it best, listi to the fans and you’ll be sitting with them.  The reality is 8 years into a regime with an mvp qb, and for 8 years the defense or coaching has failed.  63 SB’s , Bills still with zero and further away as they can’t even get to 1. Bills would have been crushed worse yesterday. This team will not win one with Beane evaluating talent ( had many chances to improve d, dl, rush ) and we watched the eagles dj dismantle an o line while we  never touched Mahomes 2 weeks earlier .   Nothings changed. Eagles , chiefs have won SB’ s while this staff has a new way to falter yearly ( pretty bad you gave your main nemesis a player who caught 2 tds and stretches the field while taking a guy whose college skills aren’t translating to the nfl as one example ).   We are not transforming that dl in a year as we haven’t done it in 8 prior years. 
 

       This d has to change and it has been nothing but an abject failure.  Can’t bring in an outside guy like Fangio as it ruffles our HC authority and he is reluctant to change othert than forced to against the ravens.  Babich is just really a yes man , there has been little outside talent other than Brady brought in as he didn’t challenge mcds role.   He will leave after next year as Beane refuses to value the wr position.   It’s 8years;it is what it is now. They will get to the playoffs most years , but this staff is not visionary enough to shoot for the title.  Beanes said it all , he won’t take a shot as he fears rebuilding should he ever win a title, he is content to just be in the race , he doesn’t have the big balls to really go get the trophy.  
 

       Pretty sad that a great fan base has been reduced to being thrilled , happy , buying merch just because a unicorn qb won mvp by a narrow margin. I’m happy for Allen , but this franchise is 63 years with ZERO TITLES. Watching yesterdays eagles dominence under a less tenured coach, good but not great qb,  over a team that’s ended our season 4 x , proves how far this gm , and coach , and owner  just are outclassed by great gms who actually can recognize talent. Without the Allen pick , this staff would , should have been gone after losing at home to KC or after the 13 sec debacle. No one will take this team as a serious threat until they grasp , you win in the end with dominant line and a d scheme not based on turnovers as your only path. 
 

      Allen is being wasted here , never fully supported with more than a single wr with pro bowl talent. Beane said we needed WRs who catch the ball. Well, Coleman really proved how bills evaluate talent, by hope and not actual production. When it counted , Kincaid dropped yet another crucial pass.  .  The o had success because cook unexpectedly developed along with Davis and Johnson.   No wr came close to that type of production. We needed WRs similar to Andre Reed types, not occasional producers like beebe or aging guys like lofton.   Beane has failed at wr , dl , and oh, wasn’t that a rookie safety with a pick six yesterday , while our bishop had an int stolen from him by a smaller worthy  even having been burned for several explosive plays earlier in the year. Talent e v a l matters in this league. 8 years in , we have ONE all pro, mvp , and what other premiere talent , maybe Dawkins ? 
 

just saying , give me , prove to me , why year 9 will be the outlier that brings home a trophy?  60  plus years of facts would say differently. Other franchise keep improving and we don’t exist in a vacuum as they continue to improve. Bills are always a likeable , nice story , the perpetual underdog in a great humanitarian community.
 

     I Followed them, the Pirates, the Penguins (whenever they started) and the Celtics for 63 years , and only the Bills have consistently never won a title. Hard to fathom. All I’m saying is after all that time , I’ve learned never to believe in any huge miracles concerning the Bills.   Mcd and Beane are not the answer. The Bills still are my favorite sports franchise above every other in any sport, but they are what they are, a team to feel proud to follow from a great community similar to where I grew up , not far from Pittsburgh.
 

    But once again , yesterday’s SB. Proves why there are so many national skeptics ;just like the 4 SB LOSSES proved, until they actually field a legit , physical , defense with talent ( not just statistically top ten or 5 ) ,  even a great qb like Allen or mahomes can be shut down, and this staff has no clue how to do that. There are too many holes to fix in a year. Luckily we have a weak division. They will make the playoffs , but they can’t fix that d in a year. Answer this truthfully, do you really think the 2024 Bills belonged on that field against the Eagles? They never blitzed once , yet had essentially won by halftime shutting down Mahomes to 14 yards passing , yet the Bills gave up close to 10 yards a play while playing the same qb?    
       
       Even as a Bills lifelong fan , I could see we are not close to the same level.   The only way this gets fixed is by bringing in a d coordinator who is an assistant head coach and Mcd has to accept a hands off role , just be a head coach , and I would give Beane one last draft.  From there , if he again can’t “ give up picks” , I would bring in someone to run the draft and Beane can manage contracts , cap issues , etc. Keep the same structure, waste Allen’s career as it will be another drought when he leaves , and PEGULA  will leave unfulfilled especially as it was a dream to get the Lombardi alongside his wonderful wife   At this point , is never winning a SB , being bridesmaids , really any better that dwelling in the basement ; neither one will change your legacy.   You have nothing left to lose.  If teams like the eagles , rams , bucs , etc can find winning staffs , why settle?  

 

     Keep hoping for the 9 th year to be that outlier while changing nothing.  Let’s enjoy the best qb play in Bills history , but it takes more. Tom Brady won 7 , Mahomes already 4/7 I think, at this rate I expect Hurts and Washington’s qb to win one  again prior to Josh.   It’s the ultimate team sport like Siriani said, including coaching and getting talent.   8 years gone , that’s an eternity in today’s NFL W free agency. Yeah, let’s keep running it back!  Faithful , not so hopeful , go Bills. 

 

[BananaB]

Beane gotta draft better plain and simple. McD can’t keep taking young talent and leaving them on the bench for average players. Faster they get to their potential the better it is for the team. Faster we learn they can’t play the better it is for this team

[ColoradoBills]

35 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said:

The defensive strategy needs to change, and we need to stop drafting people because they’re “nice guys”. 

 

It's ok if they are "nice guys", but I agree they need to bring more intensity on gameday.

I'm a fan of the "process: but team leadership could use a shot of killer instinct.

The locker room needs a vet that can bring that.  I believe that is Kincaid's biggest fault.  Others on the team too.

[harmonkillebrew]

9 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

  Beane has been average on his drafts and horrible at evaluation of DL.  I have to wonder if we need a change in our scouts? 

 

For all our (esp. My) ripping of McDermott it seems he gets that we need a change and is making coaching changes/ Adds to back that. So what's left?  Beane MUST do better in his evaluation of talent and who he picks.  We all saw what McClusky and BTJ did this year vs Coleman, that is a miss for me.  He picked a bad DL who is  no longer here vs a guy who became an all pro center. There are way too many instances of this.

 

McDermott has always wanted pressure from the front 4 so he can do more on the back end, and it is a MUST this offseason. Ill just say it, another average to bad draft, and we need to re evaluate our GM position with this team.

 

That said, I really hope he starts hitting, we all like him, but he needs to step up.  

I agree generally that Beane has had some whiffs, but McDermott doesn't get a pass either.

What's a commonality between the Eagles and KC? They both have accomplished, veteran DCs and an offensive HC. The HCs brought in really good veteran coaches as Coordinators. 

McDermott? eh, he rolls with a brand new DC and a young OC. I get that Babbich is an up and comer, but he's not ready yet and McD could stand to bring in a more seasoned play caller. I also think Brady, while he ran a good system, failed in clutch moments during the playoffs with good play calling.  

[BananaB]

One of the biggest thing Beane gotta do is sit McD down and tell him the defensive system gotta change. 

[3rdand12]

9 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Its simple. Beane needs to stop trying to outsmart every other GM and pick a consensus defensive lineman from the top 10.

 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/positions/DL/1/2025

 

 

If only we could ever draft that early. This winning thing gets in the way of Drafting too !

 But yea

 Do better lil Buddy.

I might say he has improved , no flops since elam