Anyone on the Bills you think could be traded?

[K D]

James Cook if him and his brother want $20 mil per season. I don't even want them paying half that for Cook. RB is a dime a dozen. There's plenty of guys in the draft

[SCBills]

I'd keep Elam if we're focusing more on man coverage.   He's not getting us much, if anything anyway.. attaching a pick to get off his cap hit is probably the larger incentive to move him.

 

For those who want to pay Benford..  Honest Question, why?  He's been here 3 years and has gotten hurt when it matters all 3 years.  He's a really good zone corner that is decent in man, but doesn't make a ton of splashy plays.   For me, if we didn't have an MVP 60M QB moving forward, sure, i'll take a Benford at 20M per.  But that's not our reality, thankfully, and I'd much rather invest that 20M on the DL and then keep throwing draft picks at the Secondary like KC and Philly do. 

[GASabresIUFan]

Why are people here trying to subtract some of our better players.  Beane trades excess depth or players who don’t fit or players made expendable by other moves.  He isn’t trading Groot.  
 

The players who fit his usual criteria are Elam and AJE.  
 

The whole point of acquiring someone like Garrett is to balance the line and bring pressure from both sides.  Teams will no longer be able to concentrate their blocking schemes to stop Groot.  Getting Garrett or Crosby but then trading Groot may save some cap but hurts the value of getting Garrett or Crosby.  There are other places to save money.  

 

[NewEra]

I don’t think anyone is untouchable minus Allen, Dawkins and Brown.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

For what? Is what we get be as good as Kincaid? As he's 15th in receiving yards by a TE in the last two seasons. Can he be better? Yes. But he can be a helluva lot worse.

1. Our QB has never thrown to Tight Ends

 

2. He’s going to be 26 next year and still has term left on his rookie deal.

 

3. Because he was 24 when the Bills drafted him, he’d be 29 at his extension and no way do I want the Bills doing that.

 

4. He’s not physical or strong, and has shown to be a possession Tight End. I think you cut your losses and realize drafting for a fit in Ken Dorsey’s offense doesn’t make sense given his usage. 
 

5. Knox is already on this team at a $14.8M cap hit and Beane talked glowingly about how much Knox means to the team. He’s already being paid as TE1 but he’s blocked in a timeshare to justify the first that Kincaid took.

 

6. All that “big slot” post draft has not come to fruition. He’s not fast enough to really excel. He is a zone possession Tight End.

 

7. Our OC has developed a scheme around running the ball. 
 

8. The average Kincaid game so far is 4 catches a game for 38 yards.

 

9. He has 4-TDs in 29-games.

 

 

[Blank Stare]

Only player I wouldn’t trade is Josh Allen. I’d listen to offers for anyone else. Not a fire sale though. We’ve got talent on this team at certain spots (oline), but no one besides 17 is untouchable. 

[Augie]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Kincaid will entice someone if they want to move on.  

 

Smart teams will want his future, imo. 

 

Why do we want to get rid of our good players? Maybe some OL depth can fetch something of value without leaving us shorthanded. 

[TheBeaneBandit]

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'd keep Elam if we're focusing more on man coverage.   He's not getting us much, if anything anyway.. attaching a pick to get off his cap hit is probably the larger incentive to move him.

 

For those who want to pay Benford..  Honest Question, why?  He's been here 3 years and has gotten hurt when it matters all 3 years.  He's a really good zone corner that is decent in man, but doesn't make a ton of splashy plays.   For me, if we didn't have an MVP 60M QB moving forward, sure, i'll take a Benford at 20M per.  But that's not our reality, thankfully, and I'd much rather invest that 20M on the DL and then keep throwing draft picks at the Secondary like KC and Philly do. 

Benford is going to be another Josh Norman situation if he goes anywhere else, and I'm only paying Cook 8 million a year MAX.

[Heavy Kevi]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Either Kincaid or Knox. If we aren’t going to play a two TE offense (we’re clearly not), it’s dumb to have both of them on the roster.

 

100% I was just saying this the other day.

 

But I'm torn. Kincaid would be the more obvious candidate for contract reasons and Knox being a better blocker (and were clearly prioritizing running the ball).

 

I'd kinda hate this tho because I still feel Kincaid has elite upside and could become a star in the right situation.

 

So we'd have to get a player in the trade that was in a similar situation or a high pick... And that feels unlikely.

 

Knox, though; could be traded to a lower tier team with cap space and a need for blocking and catching. I would prefer this, but don't know how likely it is.

 

Other than TE... Maybe a DL player but again that's where we need the most help.

 

Could we trade a player for a DC?🤔 Cuz I don't see a huge change this coming year if we stay with this soft zone defense that quickly became antiquated this last year with NFLs adjustment to more running and ball control offenses.

[SectionC3]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Smart teams will want his future, imo. 

 

Why do we want to get rid of our good players? Maybe some OL depth can fetch something of value without leaving us shorthanded. 

I don’t want to trade him.  But maybe they sell high on him.
 

 Something is wrong there.  Beane calls out his playing strength.  The drop against KC is going to sting.  But Brady could never really figure out how to use him.  I thought.  But maybe there’s a lack of trust too.  Remember the crosser in the playoffs with the sloppy route running that cause the incompletion?  It’s possible they see him as that player. 

[BADOLBILZ]

16 minutes ago, K D said:

James Cook if him and his brother want $20 mil per season. I don't even want them paying half that for Cook. RB is a dime a dozen. There's plenty of guys in the draft

 

 

Yeah Spotrac is projecting Cook at 4 years $40M.   That's not bad value if he continues his upward trajectory(and can start playing 3rd downs) but I think these kind of contracts are the reason Beane doesn't ever have much cap room to work with.   The White, Milano, Knox deals that have backfired.  They have a bunch of similarly "good" players who are all coming due for extensions this offseason or they will hit free agency after 2025 so the obvious trade candidates are:

 

Benford

Bernard

Cook

Rousseau

Shakir

 

Bernard wouldn't have much value so I think you ride it out with him but I'm not inclined to extend ANY of them so with that being the case,  the right trade situations make sense.

 

[iccrewman112]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Kincaid will entice someone if they want to move on.  

Kelce hangs them up.

 

Beane deals him to KC.

 

Kincaid feasts in their offensive system.

[Warriorspikes51]

Kincaid or Rousseau would make sense if they are being packaged for an upgrade 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I don’t want to trade him.  But maybe they sell high on him.
 

 Something is wrong there.  Beane calls out his playing strength.  The drop against KC is going to sting.  But Brady could never really figure out how to use him.  I thought.  But maybe there’s a lack of trust too.  Remember the crosser in the playoffs with the sloppy route running that cause the incompletion?  It’s possible they see him as that player. 

 

I give him credit and a bit of slack for being out there with a torn PCL. It’s not all disappointing. Let him improve the things they referenced and see what we get next year when he’s hopefully healthy. 

[The Jokeman]

5 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

1. Our QB has never thrown to Tight Ends

 

2. He’s going to be 26 next year and still has term left on his rookie deal.

 

3. Because he was 24 when the Bills drafted him, he’d be 29 at his extension and no way do I want the Bills doing that.

 

4. He’s not physical or strong, and has shown to be a possession Tight End. I think you cut your losses and realize drafting for a fit in Ken Dorsey’s offense doesn’t make sense given his usage. 
 

5. Knox is already on this team at a $14.8M cap hit and Beane talked glowingly about how much Knox means to the team. He’s already being paid as TE1 but he’s blocked in a timeshare to justify the first that Kincaid took.

 

6. All that “big slot” post draft has not come to fruition. He’s not fast enough to really excel. He is a zone possession Tight End.

 

7. Our OC has developed a scheme around running the ball. 
 

8. The average Kincaid game so far is 4 catches a game for 38 yards.

 

9. He has 4-TDs in 29-games.

 

 

1. Kincaid broke the Bills reception record for a TE his rookie. So yeah he doesn't get targeted.

 

2/3. His age isn't a factor these next two seasons we have him under contract.

 

4. Not all TEs are great blockers. George Kittles are an exception in the modern NFL not the rule.

 

5. Dawson Knox got over paid, maybe Beane will learn from it? 

 

6./7./8./9. What TE do you propose that we can get that's significantly better?

 

9. PS Even with his low TD number we still have had a top 6 scoring offense the last 2 seasons. 

 

[GASabresIUFan]

57 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

1. Our QB has never thrown to Tight Ends

 

2. He’s going to be 26 next year and still has term left on his rookie deal.

 

3. Because he was 24 when the Bills drafted him, he’d be 29 at his extension and no way do I want the Bills doing that.

 

4. He’s not physical or strong, and has shown to be a possession Tight End. I think you cut your losses and realize drafting for a fit in Ken Dorsey’s offense doesn’t make sense given his usage. 
 

5. Knox is already on this team at a $14.8M cap hit and Beane talked glowingly about how much Knox means to the team. He’s already being paid as TE1 but he’s blocked in a timeshare to justify the first that Kincaid took.

 

6. All that “big slot” post draft has not come to fruition. He’s not fast enough to really excel. He is a zone possession Tight End.

 

7. Our OC has developed a scheme around running the ball. 
 

8. The average Kincaid game so far is 4 catches a game for 38 yards.

 

9. He has 4-TDs in 29-games.

 

 

You do realize he was playing with a torn PCL this season?  You do realize that Josh targeted Kincaid 91 times as a rookie (Dalton caught 80% of his targets as a rookie).  The amount of targets increased when Brady became the OC.  Add Knox’s 36 targets and Morris’ 3, that’s 130 targets to TEs in 2023.  In 2024, Kincaid was Josh’s 2nd most popular target at 75 and Josh threw to TEs 118 times overall.  
 

Sorry your argument that Josh doesn’t throw to TEs doesn’t hold up. 

Edited 14 hours ago by GASabresIUFan

[DapperCam]

I could see Rousseau getting moved for a high impact DE. You have to give to get, and the trading team might want something in return to plug the hole they are creating.

I don't really see anybody getting moved unless it's in a football deal where a player is coming back.

[BADOLBILZ]

3 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Kincaid or Rousseau would make sense if they are being packaged for an upgrade 

 

 

Kincaid might net you a 5th in this draft.  If he repeats this past season he wouldn't be worth a pick at all next year.   Better off hoping he gets his sh!t together and toughens himself up.

 

Pretty deep class of TE's in this draft.   Hopefully the Bills find one on day 3 to succeed Knox in 2026.

2 minutes ago, GASabresIUFan said:

You do realize he was playing with a torn PCL this season?  

 

 

As it turned out,  Dawson Knox was exaggerating for effect in his defense of Kincaid.   Like I speculated, Kincaid clearly didn't have a fully torn PCL.  Just a sprain.  Bills confirmed that.  No surgery required.  He's probably on the slopes today back home.

[Mat68]

3 hours ago, JP51 said:

I would say Rousseau, Oliver, Milano, Knox, Kincaid, Rapp, Anderson, Miller and Jones are all tradeable depending on whom is looking for what... Clearly to me Jones and Miller are too old really to bring in much, Anderson someone could be looking at like they did a Wyatt Teller saying I think this kid can play... Rapp someone might look at for a depth piece ... Oliver's contract and production dont match, but I could see someone who sees him better in their scheme... Rousseau and Kincaid would be the real "Chips" per se... but I dont think anyone is giving us a 1 or a 2 for those guys.. 

 

I don't see a real trade candidate. Maybe Knox.  I think he has been more consistent than Kincaid.  Dump Elam for a futre day 3 pick is about it. With the draft solidify the defense and speed to the wide receiver corp.  A few timely FA and Buffalo is in good shape. 

[JP51]

1 minute ago, Mat68 said:

 

I don't see a real trade candidate. Maybe Knox.  I think he has been more consistent than Kincaid.  Dump Elam for a futre day 3 pick is about it. With the draft solidify the defense and speed to the wide receiver corp.  A few timely FA and Buffalo is in good shape. 

Oh I really dont see it happening unless it is like a Rousseau or someone to get cap down... there are players who could be pieces for folks for a day 3 pick maybe... but not many.