Anyone on the Bills you think could be traded?

[Pete]

IMO the Bills trade an OL.  Tyson Grable sounds like the real deal.  Anderson is restricted FA.  Van Demark was re-signed.  IMO Bills trade 1 or more of Van Pran, Gouraige, Mike Edwards, or Travis Clayton.

[BuffaloBillyG]

To all the ones saying Kincaid, you are dead wrong IMO. If what Knox said was true and he was playing through a knee injury this year, Beane will give him time to heal and come back. This is what they have done in the past with guys like Spencer Brown. And that makes Knox more valuable as an alternative of Kincaid doesn't come back healthy. 

 

Far too early to flip Kincaid for a 3rd rather than see if he comes back and is the guy he flashed he could be as a rookie. The only way I see them trading Kincaid is if some GM goes crazy and makes a huge offer OR the medicals on him show he won't heal properly.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

I want the Bills to trade Kincaid. 

 

 

[SCBills]

I'd honestly look at trading any of the following:

 

Oliver

Rousseau

Kincaid

Benford

 

Oliver is undersized and I'm frankly sick of having to hear about our undersized DT's putting our undersized LB's in conflict.

 

Rousseau, imo, is a Defensive End Tremaine Edmunds.  Young, lots of potential, just don't know if it ever gets realized and after this year we'd be paying him 20M+ per year potentially.

 

Kincaid, for obvious reasons, Knox is going to be here for the next few seasons most likely and is a fine enough TE1 for us.  Especially if they are going to pay Shakir, who operates in a similar part of the field.

 

Benford has been here 3 years and has been hurt when it matters all 3 years.  He's a very good cover corner, but I don't know how good if we move to more of a man Defense.   I'd be more than willing to move him before having to consider paying him, signing a legitimate man corner and then drafting a corner early in the draft, along with another early Day 3 corner. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

2 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

I'll probably get roasted for this, but I think you could get some value for Benford that might be worth thinking about. With the exception of Elam, the Bills have been excellent at coaching up DBs. 

 

EDIT: Yup, getting roasted, lol. I didn't say I wanted them to do this guys. 

Well - I think this warrants thinking about the defensive roster at large. 

 

If McDermott and Beane are really here for the long haul, and they following their blueprint - then they're going to extend Bernard, Benford and Rousseau. When you consider the Shakir extension, then do these extensions realistically eat all the rest of the cap? 

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Either Kincaid or Knox. If we aren’t going to play a two TE offense (we’re clearly not), it’s dumb to have both of them on the roster.

Kincaid would be one of our better trade options.

 

I don't like giving up on young players, and the rhetoric about Kincaid on this board is silly. As you point out, the two TE system just doesn't work for us.

 

Kincaid has talent and is on a rookie deal, which makes him a good trade candidate. 

[Kirby Jackson]

Rousseau NEEDS to be traded IMO. You can’t pay him $20M a year. He will command near that. 

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

I think Kincaid is the easy one. Has some value left, disappointing overall etc etc. 

He’s a good answer as well. I think that you can give it 1 more year if you choose.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I'd honestly look at trading any of the following:

 

Oliver

Rousseau

Kincaid

Benford

 

Oliver is undersized and I'm frankly sick of having to hear about our undersized DT's putting our undersized LB's in conflict.

 

Rousseau, imo, is a Defensive End Tremaine Edmunds.  Young, lots of potential, just don't know if it ever gets realized and after this year we'd be paying him 20M+ per year potentially.

 

Kincaid, for obvious reasons, Knox is going to be here for the next few seasons most likely and is a fine enough TE1 for us.  Especially if they are going to pay Shakir, who operates in a similar part of the field.

 

Benford has been here 3 years and has been hurt when it matters all 3 years.  He's a very good cover corner, but I don't know how good if we move to more of a man Defense.   I'd be more than willing to move him before having to consider paying him, signing a legitimate man corner and then drafting a corner early in the draft, along with another early Day 3 corner. 

I think you nail it here man. 

 

Beane's model has been draft, develop and retain - that's the gold standard on the surface - problem is just as you stated - Oliver's cap hit is over $20M, Knox's cap hit is $14.8M in 2025, Rousseau is going to be somewhere in the $16M-$21M range/year, and what does a good starting corner make. 

 

The problem is obvious - these extensions tie you further to McDermott's scheme, the players listed are not elite, and it will eat the rest of this teams cap space. 

 

The Bills are -$11M now and 29th overall. 

 

 

[klos63]

2 hours ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:

If the Bills are looking to take big swings this off season I wonder if anyone gets moved to either open cap space or acquire more draft capital?

 

Seems like obvious answer would be Rosseau. I also wonder if Milano is a sneaky trade candidate, but I don't know the cap ramifications if that were to happen. 

Remember,  you replace players you don’t get rid of them. 

Do we have a viable replacement for anyone that you or others think about moving on from?

We are weak on the line,  so who takes Rousseau's spot?

[Straight Hucklebuck]

10 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Remember,  you replace players you don’t get rid of them. 

Do we have a viable replacement for anyone that you or others think about moving on from?

We are weak on the line,  so who takes Rousseau's spot?

Rousseau counts $13.3M against the cap in 2025 which is fine. 

 

His best trait is he is 24 and can eat snaps. 

 

But you always have the franchise tag as an option in 2026 and if I were Beane I would value the cap flexibility right - out of all the guys who are extension-ready:

 

Shakir

Benford

Bernard

Rousseau

Cook 

No I am not counting Damar Hamlin

 

Do Bills fans really want the Bills to try and bring all of these guys back? 

 

Big swings are going to take cap space and draft capital - you can't do that if you extend this entire group (and not being willing to twist the roster) - so looking at a Benford trade, a Bernard trade, Kincaid, Oliver - all of that makes sense to me. 

 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Straight Hucklebuck

[SCBills]

14 minutes ago, klos63 said:

Remember,  you replace players you don’t get rid of them. 

Do we have a viable replacement for anyone that you or others think about moving on from?

We are weak on the line,  so who takes Rousseau's spot?

 

EDGE via Trade

 

AJ Epenesa

 

Von on a reworked deal and/or Duwaune Smoot

 

Javon Solomon

 

Day 2 Draft Pick

 

Then at DT:  Oliver / Jones / Day 2 Draft Pick / Carter

 

This Draft is strong on the DL, especially on Day 2, which is why I'd advocate recouping assets from a big swing trade by moving Rousseau, Benford and Kincaid. 

 

I can understand keeping Rousseau this year, and I'd be ok seeing what he looks like opposite a Garret or Crosby, but I'd also be fine moving him, clearing that cap and investing a RD2 Pick there.

 

Just find me a way to get an elite pass rusher (if possible) and two premium Draft Picks on this DL (3 new additions total) and I'm good.   

 

With all of our RD 4/5 picks, go heavy in the Secondary and sign a decent vet or two if we trade Benford.

 

I understand we likely won't do all of this, but I would.  I don't see any of the 4 I listed as guys who are helping us get over the hump.

 

Edited 15 hours ago by SCBills

[TheBeaneBandit]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Either Kincaid or Knox. If we aren’t going to play a two TE offense (we’re clearly not), it’s dumb to have both of them on the roster.

Word is Dallas was pretty hot on him during that draft. I wonder if he could fetch us a third rounder and maybe a couple other late round picks plus I think Davidson is a guy that really like in could offer some serious receiving potential as well

Edited 15 hours ago by TheBeaneBandit

[Deadstroke]

2 hours ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

I don't think he's on the table either, just answering OP's question about who we could move for draft capital and who would actually command a decent return. 

 

A 7th round pick for Elam? Yeah, maybe a 2028 7th.... 

Worth a lot more if we play more man coverage. 

[The Jokeman]

30 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I want the Bills to trade Kincaid. 

 

 

For what? Is what we get be as good as Kincaid? As he's 15th in receiving yards by a TE in the last two seasons. Can he be better? Yes. But he can be a helluva lot worse.

[SoCal Deek]

The obvious simple answer is to draft really well. The Bills have somewhat painted themselves into a corner with less than stellar selections and are between a rock and hard place to now have to consider extensions for some rather average to slightly above average talent. So someone in the that Scouting Department had to be made aware that the franchise is depending on them to do an exceptional job this offseason. 

[klos63]

8 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Rousseau counts $13.3M against the cap in 2025 which is fine. 

 

His best trait is he is 24 and can eat snaps. 

 

But you always have the franchise tag as an option in 2026 and if I were Beane I would value the cap flexibility right - out of all the guys who are extension-ready:

 

Shakir

Benford

Bernard

Rousseau

Cook 

No I am not counting Damar Hamlin

 

Do Bills fans really want the Bills to try and bring all of these guys back? 

 

Big swings are going to take cap space and draft capital - you can't do that if you extend this entire group (and not being willing to twist the roster) - so looking at a Benford trade, a Bernard trade, Kincaid, Oliver - all of that makes sense to me. 

 

 

 

Unless he has a big year,  I don't see Bernard getting a 2nd contract. 

Shakir and Benford should stay,  Cook definitely,  not sure about Rousseau,  but he's pretty solid and that's OK. 

[JimmyNoodles]

There is not one person the DL that should feel they have an automatic spot on this team.  It's time to cut bait, just like they did with Diggs.  It's open season on D lineman.  People need pay cuts, trade, or move on, however it happens.  I would leave the offense folks alone.  They finally got the line right.  Need one speed receiver.   

[Straight Hucklebuck]

This board said it as soon as the Bills extended Oliver, why?

 

He had his spots this year - Detroit - but again with long stretches of average play and the constant questions about his size and rush defense. 
 

I don’t know any team wants that $20M/year contract, but structurally that a move that would force a change on this defense. 

 

 

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

EDGE via Trade

 

AJ Epenesa

 

Von on a reworked deal and/or Duwaune Smoot

 

Javon Solomon

 

Day 2 Draft Pick

 

Then at DT:  Oliver / Jones / Day 2 Draft Pick / Carter

 

This Draft is strong on the DL, especially on Day 2, which is why I'd advocate recouping assets from a big swing trade by moving Rousseau, Benford and Kincaid. 

[MiracleAtRich1393]

2 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Not obvious to me about Rousseau.....but depending on what you get maybe.  You create a large hole by doing that.   And a review of Milano's contract makes that not a great idea.

If you include him in the Myles Garrett package it's not a hole at all!

[The Firebaugh Kid]

2 hours ago, st pete gogolak said:

Either Kincaid or Knox. If we aren’t going to play a two TE offense (we’re clearly not), it’s dumb to have both of them on the roster.

And Davidson is really good. Potentially.