The Worthy Trade Keeps Looking Worse and Worse

[Kaenon]

The only bad part of the Worthy trade was Buffalo giving their rival KC the option to do what they wanted to do by drafting who they wanted to draft to fit their team and scheme. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Kaenon

[Chaos]

4 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

Worthy didn't really do much of anything until garbage time. Despite having massive opportunity all season he really wasn't particularly impressive. 

 

I'm not saying Coleman was or will be significantly better. I'm just saying it remains to be seen ultimately who is the greater impact player on their respective team.  

So far its not arguable.  Worthy stepped up to help the Chiefs advance further than the Bills.  Coleman did not.  The future may change this. But the past is settled. 

[Bruffalo]

1 minute ago, Chaos said:

So far its not arguable.  Worthy stepped up to help the Chiefs advance further than the Bills.  Coleman did not.  The future may change this. But the past is settled. 

I can't agree that he stepped up at all, but yes, the Chiefs got farther. 

[K-9]

Waste. Of. Time.

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I think we can agree, that none of the last three first picks, Elam, Kincaid and Coleman have  not been huge  contributers on the field.

 

Both Kincaid and Coleman have been legitimate contributors; just not in the way that your unrealistic expectations wanted.

[Pete]

7 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This 100%. I don’t care about Worthy. DeJean was a blue chipper sitting right there because the NFL is dumb and they passed. He should have been the pick, absolutely no doubt in my mind. They could have circled back for a WR like Jalen McMillan or Troy Franklin or something. But drafting for need rather than taking the best player available is how you end up here. It is what it is. 
 

It happened with the Elam draft pick and now the Coleman draft pick as well. They reached on guys becuase of need and passed on blue chip players. 

There is zero percentage that Beane had Coleman rated higher than Cooper.  Not to mention, we had a big need at Safety.  It was a horrible choice to ignore draft board and reach for WR.

[NewEra]

11 minutes ago, Chaos said:

I think we can agree, that none of the last three first picks, Elam, Kincaid and Coleman have  not been huge  contributers on the field. The pick prior to them, Gregory Rousseau had a decent year this year, but did not matter much for a couple of seasons.  On the Eagles, Cooper Dejean and Quinyon Mitchell  making meaningful contributions. 

Looking at the Bills, it just seems like one of two things must be true.  A- The Bills coaches don't have a plan to incorporate the players into an important part of the team as rookies or B-They were not very good picks.  Or a combination of both.

I think the truth leans more towards A than B.   I think this is potentially a meaningful handicap when comparing the top two teams each season to the top 8 teams each season. 

The last 3 (first) picks have yielded zero to date-agreed.

 

Rousseau is a beast and was a great pick.  
 

definitely somewhere in between A and B.  In the regular season- the defensive coaching does the job vs KC.  Then get picked apart in the playoffs.  Then again, which players have made huge plays on D for us in the KC playoff games?  Phillips made one this year.  Poyer made one last year.  We need guys to make big plays. Maybe that’s coaching…..maybe not

[Pete]

Not too mention, that was the first pick in the second round. That is one of hottest draft positions.  Beane and others have a chance to reset their boards, and all night to think about it.   Beane must of turned down many good trade down offers, to overdraft Keon

[MrEpsYtown]

4 minutes ago, Pete said:

There is zero percentage that Beane had Coleman rated higher than Cooper.  Not to mention, we had a big need at Safety.  It was a horrible choice to ignore draft board and reach for WR.

 

These decisions seem small in a vacuum, but they have huge long-term consequences, which is why, aside from Josh, this team does not have high-level talents and one of the reasons they cannot get over the hump. 

[JP51]

10 hours ago, Whkfc said:

Yeah not Beanes finest moment. Time to turn the page however. Let's start looking forward to getting over the hump next year.

Still not convinced Worthy is a special player and will turn out to be more of a weapon than Coleman... Although if year 1 was round 1... Worthy won the round... in the end.. I just want Beane to stop trading with KC ... especially draft picks.. helping them get what they want to improve their team.. even if its not what we are looking for doesnt seem to make sense to me.... 

[Warriorspikes51]

5 minutes ago, Pete said:

There is zero percentage that Beane had Coleman rated higher than Cooper.  Not to mention, we had a big need at Safety.  It was a horrible choice to ignore draft board and reach for WR.

I'm sorry....did you see the Bills draft board rankings in person? 

Just now, JP51 said:

Still not convinced Worthy is a special player and will turn out to be more of a weapon than Coleman... Although if year 1 was round 1... Worthy won the round... in the end.. I just want Beane to stop trading with KC ... especially draft picks.. helping them get what they want to improve their team.. even if its not what we are looking for doesnt seem to make sense to me.... 

 

Keon appeared to be a better WR prior to his injury.....he looked legit good at times 

[PromoTheRobot]

I turned the game off. Did I miss Worthy being named game MVP for his two garbage time TDs?

[BananaB]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

I’m not upset we traded with KC- I’m a fan of trading back and getting additional picks.  I’m disgusted we drafted Keon and DeWayne!  I like trading back, and I like drafting BPA.  Cooper DeJean was a top 15 player, who was available at our 2nd round pick.  Me, and most of TBD draft room were pounding the table for Ladd, or Cooper.  We are not pro scouts, and it’s obvious to us the Ladd or Cooper should of been the selection.

 

Instead we get plodding Keon(doesn’t One Bills Drive have a stop watch?).  We gained a 3rd round pick, let’s try and salvage this poor draft.  We draft another tomatoe can in DeWayne, who cannot even be active after his return.  Every other DT played reps over DeWayne.

 

2nd and 3rd round picks are premium, and we better use them wisely.  Last season Beane threw away those picks, and we barely got anything in return.  I like Beane, but he ***** up prime draft slots in 2024

 

 

 

Beane just can’t draft players early

[Pete]

4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

I'm sorry....did you see the Bills draft board rankings in person? 

 

 

No, but I have a working brain.  Cooper DeJean was an elite Safety prospect.  His RAS score 9.85 is top notch.  Cooper athleticism stood out on tape.  Cooper can play CB or S, and he is great punt returner.  Tons of production, and zero flags.  There is not a GM who had Keon ranked higher than Cooper.  This is common sense

[zow2]

I don't care about Worthy.  It's annoying we are the team that is associated with KC getting him,  but he was not going to be a Bills player.   What annoys me in hindsight, as others have said is ignoring the need and not drafting Cooper DeJean with that 2nd round pick.  And if they were going WR,  Ladd McConkey looks to be a better NFL receiver than Keon, and I don't care that we already had Shakir.  Stock the team with pure talent.

[Scott7975]

10 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

I can’t speak for others, but i’m not mad at the Bills not getting Worthy. I DONT WANT HIM.

 

Im mad that they traded with the Chiefs.

 

It doesn’t matter what player they picked the pick we traded them.

 

You don’t deal with your enemies! You don’t give your bully what they want! 

they would have gotten him anyways. We got a pick out of it. You do what’s best for your team. Doesn’t matter who with. 

[Brandon]

I don't think the mistake was passing on Worthy.  It was passing on Ladd McConkey or Cooper Dejean.  Granted,  I wasn't much for taking a DB with the first pick,  but I thought he was an excellent prospect and would have been an good selection.  As for McConkey,  I don't necessarily buy that he's just a slot guy,  but at the same time,  I don't really care,  either.  The Bills were depleted enough at WR that they just needed guys that could play at a high level and clearly,  he can.  

Edited 21 hours ago by Brandon

[Solomon Grundy]

8 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This 100%. I don’t care about Worthy. DeJean was a blue chipper sitting right there because the NFL is dumb and they passed. He should have been the pick, absolutely no doubt in my mind. They could have circled back for a WR like Jalen McMillan or Troy Franklin or something. But drafting for need rather than taking the best player available is how you end up here. It is what it is. 
 

It happened with the Elam draft pick and now the Coleman draft pick as well. They reached on guys becuase of need and passed on blue chip players. 

With McDermott philosophy, are you sure DeJean would've played before Hamlin/Rapp?

[Bermuda Triangle]

11 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

they would have gotten him anyways. We got a pick out of it. You do what’s best for your team. Doesn’t matter who with. 

How can anyone say that with certainty?

[Pete]

24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

 

Keon appeared to be a better WR prior to his injury.....he looked legit good at times 

Keon 7 for 21 catch percentage post Poyer hit.  Keon is a one trick pony, who struggles to do succeed at his one trick.  Prior to the hit, Keon played with fire.  I didn’t see that fire in Keon post the hit.  I hope Keon can get his edge back, he didn’t finish strong