The Worthy Trade Keeps Looking Worse and Worse

[NickelCity]

Coleman and Worthy topped my list of receivers I wasn't interested in 😂.

 

Would still love McConkey...

[streetkings01]

Chiefs got blown out and Worthy had garbage time touchdowns. We lost because our defense couldn’t do what 80% of teams did to KC this season and keep them to 28 or fewer points this season. 
 

We didn’t miss out on the super bowl because we were a “Worthy” type player away, we missed out because we were a dominant pass rush and good secondary away!

Worthy nor Coleman was the right pick…..the right pick was us trying our hardest to jump up to #22 and taking Brian Thomas!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

34 minutes ago, cale said:

They should have picked him. Guy plays bigger than his size. Shows up during big moments. Sure has looked durable all season. If this staff couldn’t coach Worthy, what made the front office think they could coach Coleman?

I am fascinated by the worthy debate lol. I thought he played even smaller than expected, absolutely worthless run blocker and pretty bad against press man. Those two knocks on him have seemed to turn out to be 100% accurate.  Don’t think he would’ve seen the field much in Buffalo to be honest ala MVS.  None of the great teams you run into in the playoffs are gonna have a lot of trouble with him until garbage time evidently  

 

Will catch the defense napping at times on a big play but don’t think he was worth the pick honestly for the chiefs even. Maybe Coleman isn’t either we’ll see, but we got Coleman and a third.  Coleman would’ve outgained worthy if he didn’t miss a chunk of time on top of being a much more effective run blocker so I don’t even get people thinking the stats argument is a slam dunk in worthy’s favor tbh 

Edited yesterday at 04:56 AM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Jimmy Harris 69]

The crucial difference is Reid. Worthy would not be the same receiver in Buffalo.  It’s not Worthy I’m wishing for, it’s Cooper DeJean as the difference maker in OUR defensive backfield. Coleman will be a nice player but he won’t impact the offense  the way DeJean would impact a defense.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

20 minutes ago, NickelCity said:

Coleman and Worthy topped my list of receivers I wasn't interested in 😂.

 

Would still love McConkey...

This I can see more…we were pretty crowded at slot wr but maybe he brings more outside than either of those other guys. 
 

the whole worthy discussion is straight up weird to me, the two reasons he fell turned out to be 100% true and he really didn’t even have a good season despite getting a ton of snaps.  Everyone talks about him like he’s some defensive nightmare but a pretty good corner just jams him straight out of the game lol 

[cale]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I am fascinated by the worthy debate lol. I thought he played even smaller than expected, absolutely worthless run blocker and pretty bad against press man. Those two knocks on him have seemed to turn out to be 100% accurate.  Don’t think he would’ve seen the field much in Buffalo to be honest ala MVS.  None of the great teams you run into in the playoffs are gonna have a lot of trouble with him until garbage time evidently  

 

Will catch the defense napping at times on a big play but don’t think he was worth the pick honestly for the chiefs even. Maybe Coleman isn’t either we’ll see, but we got Coleman and a third.  Coleman would’ve outgained worthy if he didn’t miss a chunk of time on top of being a much more effective run blocker so I don’t even get people thinking the stats argument is a slam dunk in worthy’s favor tbh 

If this is a production business, like everyone says it is, then objectively he was more productive. That’s what the data says. Scouting in college seemed to indicate the same thing.

 

I don’t understand why Beane went so out of his way to not draft him. The best I can figure is they didn’t want to pay first round money.

 

when the coach who has won two SBs with the Chiefs bird dogs Worthy, maybe he knows something Beane doesn’t.

[Utah John]

1 hour ago, Bills Costa Rica said:

Save the flaming please but Worthy just looks special. 
 

Beane needs to really reevaluate his willingness to give our biggest rival the player they wanted.
 

I know this has been hashed and re-hashed but it’s such a huge black eye for this organization.

What is the silver lining here? 

The silver lining is that Coleman was drafted to be our WR2.  Except for Cooper, playing injured most of his time in Buffalo, we didn't have a WR1.  Next year we get a WR1 from the draft or a trade or a free agent, and together with Coleman and Shakir, the Bills suddenly have a very good WR room.

[billsfan89]

Worthy put up a lot of garbage time stats in the Super Bowl who cares. That being said my concern with Worthy out of the draft was that while I thought he was going to be a good player I wasn't sure how durable he would be at his size and speed. Worthy is an uber small dude whose running really fast. KC was smart to use him as a gadget player then unleashing him more in the playoffs. But if you have to limit him a lot to keep him healthy then he is going to have a lot lower value than someone who can be out there consistently. 

[QCity]

Worthy played a big part in ending our season. As I said in the other thread, if you still think this trade worked out in our favor your homer goggles are so thick you can't see the game objectively. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

3 minutes ago, cale said:

If this is a production business, like everyone says it is, then objectively he was more productive. That’s what the data says. Scouting in college seemed to indicate the same thing.

 

I don’t understand why Beane went so out of his way to not draft him. The best I can figure is they didn’t want to pay first round money.

 

when the coach who has won two SBs with the Chiefs bird dogs Worthy, maybe he knows something Beane doesn’t.

Because the bills value guys that are maulers in run blocking on the outside and a wr that can’t beat press man is absolutely useless against the chiefs and ravens on top of that. 
 

Scouting in college said worthy can’t run block or beat press man and he can’t..  maybe there’s an argument the guy could outrun a soft defense enough times to make up for those shortcomings but he really didn’t do that either..  he averaged 35 receiving yards per game lol that’s even lower than Coleman.   people talk about him like he’s rookie desean jackson it’s insane 

 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, QCity said:

Worthy played a big part in ending our season. As I said in the other thread, if you still think this trade worked out in our favor your homer goggles are so thick you can't see the game objectively. 

Lol I don’t see it…if we pick worthy he probably doesn’t see the field a whole lot and the chiefs most likely take mcconkey and that’s an absolute bloodbath.  Hell even legette or Adonai Mitchell probably do what worthy did at minimum on the chiefs this year

My gut is both teams somewhat missed but the bills got an extra pick..   We’ll see what happens year 2.  The league should be thanking us the chiefs aren’t dominating with mcconkey right now though for sure 🤣

idk that I’d even say worthy played a big part in ending our season, 30 of his yards were complete nonsense. He did pretty much nothing in the second half against an absolutely dismal bills secondary and we climbed right back into the game. I think he had 1 catch. 

Edited yesterday at 06:18 AM by Generic_Bills_Fan

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

People act like he injured his legs. Dude is slower than. Most Tight ends in the league, and has the worst hands on the team outside of Knox.

 

Amateur move by Beane

 

Speed isn't the only metric to becoming a top tier WR which has been proven several times over... Jerry Rice, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Cris Carter and many others. Many fans called Jerry Rice a bust after his rookie year where he dropped many passes, we could be pleasantly surprised in year 2.

[MrEpsYtown]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:

The crucial difference is Reid. Worthy would not be the same receiver in Buffalo.  It’s not Worthy I’m wishing for, it’s Cooper DeJean as the difference maker in OUR defensive backfield. Coleman will be a nice player but he won’t impact the offense  the way DeJean would impact a defense.

This 100%. I don’t care about Worthy. DeJean was a blue chipper sitting right there because the NFL is dumb and they passed. He should have been the pick, absolutely no doubt in my mind. They could have circled back for a WR like Jalen McMillan or Troy Franklin or something. But drafting for need rather than taking the best player available is how you end up here. It is what it is. 
 

It happened with the Elam draft pick and now the Coleman draft pick as well. They reached on guys becuase of need and passed on blue chip players. 

[Alphadawg7]

28 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I hope im not alone when I say I’m confused here

What’s confusing?  He wasn’t a difference maker, he’s a complimentary one trick pony.  Yay he caught a garbage time TD in a dome.   
 

All tonight proved is we need defensive help.  Eagles couldn’t beat the Chiefs or get back to the Super Bowl even until they did what?  Got a run game and upgraded their defense.  
 

Yet people on here talking about a WR again who isn’t even the type of WR we lack?  It’s getting old, it’s like Groundhogs Day around here.  
 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

What’s confusing?  He wasn’t a difference maker, he’s a complimentary one trick pony.  Yay he caught a garbage time TD in a dome.   
 

All tonight proved is we need defensive help.  Eagles couldn’t beat the Chiefs or get back to the Super Bowl even until they did what?  Got a run game and upgraded their defense.  
 

Yet people on here talking about a WR again who isn’t even the type of WR we lack?  It’s getting old, it’s like Groundhogs Day around here.  
 

 

It’s just the bills board being the bills board 🤣. Any wr the chiefs drafted if we picked worthy would’ve performed as well as worthy did for them this year or better.

 

their pick is almost definitely mcconkey if we take worthy and boy would that have been the nightmare scenario haha 

[appoo]

2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

What a dope if he thought that ?

 

My recollection was that he said that he always thinks the Bills are a chance as long as rhey have Josh Allen ? 

Then they wouldn't have added all that dead cap for this season. If the FO through they had a legit shot at winning a SB they wouldn't have traded Stefon Diggs.   The defense did better than expected, and Joe Brady and Allen turned in MVP seasons to drag this offense into being elite with 4 blue chip players in the two tackles, a RB and Josh having an MVP season. 

 

Keon was drafted becausde he could help this team make a super bowl in Year 2 and beyond

[FireChans]

19 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

What’s confusing?  He wasn’t a difference maker, he’s a complimentary one trick pony.  Yay he caught a garbage time TD in a dome.   
 

All tonight proved is we need defensive help.  Eagles couldn’t beat the Chiefs or get back to the Super Bowl even until they did what?  Got a run game and upgraded their defense.  
 

Yet people on here talking about a WR again who isn’t even the type of WR we lack?  It’s getting old, it’s like Groundhogs Day around here.  
 

 

For starters, you wrote “With Brady” lol.

 

Also, the Eagles’ backs rushed for 2.1 YPC tonight. 
 

All we need to do is find the next Zach Baun, Jalen Carter, Josh Sweat, Quinyon Mitchell, Gardner Johnson, Reed Blankenship, Cooper DeJean and Jordan Davis.

Edited yesterday at 06:37 AM by FireChans

[Alphadawg7]

11 minutes ago, FireChans said:

For starters, you wrote “With Brady” lol.

 

ok fair, obvious typo, I fixed that

 

11 minutes ago, FireChans said:

 

Also, the Eagles’ backs rushed for 2.1 YPC tonight. 
 

All we need to do is find the next Zach Baun, Jalen Carter, Josh Sweat, Quinyon Mitchell, Gardner Johnson, Reed Blankenship, Cooper DeJean and Jordan Davis.

Eagles made some investments into the D and it changed their whole team.  We don’t need to find the “next” of all those guys, we still have pieces here and we have a way better QB.

 

But we sure as F need to find a damn defensive player who can make an impact.  
 

I can’t even fathom how anyone could watch that game and come away thinking about some one trick WR on the team that just got utterly dominated by the D Line and embarrassingly blown out.  
 

Meanwhile the Bills have given up the most points in NFL history in their last 5 playoff losses, 4 of which were to the team that just got whacked like Tommy in Goodlfellas by the Eagles DLine.  
 

 

[BullBuchanan]

2 hours ago, streetkings01 said:

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We didn’t miss out on the super bowl because we were a “Worthy” type player away, we missed out because we were a dominant pass rush and good secondary away!

Worthy nor Coleman was the right pick…..the right pick was us trying our hardest to jump up to #22 and taking Brian Thomas!

How are you reconciling these two statements?

The right pick was probably Cooper DeJean.

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, Bills Costa Rica said:

Save the flaming please but Worthy just looks special. 
 

Beane needs to really reevaluate his willingness to give our biggest rival the player they wanted.
 

I know this has been hashed and re-hashed but it’s such a huge black eye for this organization.

What is the silver lining here? 

 

Wait... did you reach this conclusion in that absolute drubbing????