The Worthy Trade Keeps Looking Worse and Worse

[CincyBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, Bills Costa Rica said:

Save the flaming please but Worthy just looks special. 
 

Beane needs to really reevaluate his willingness to give our biggest rival the player they wanted.
 

I know this has been hashed and re-hashed but it’s such a huge black eye for this organization.

What is the silver lining here? 

He didn't look special when the game was on the line tonight.  Again a horrific performance by the Bills defense against a KC team with a deeply flawed offense should not be the final measuring stick of whether or not Worthy is "special".

 

 

[scuba guy]

Wow op can't get off the line with a crap.

Has to play behind it to get up speed and the real d not 2nd stringers held him in check.

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, gotme365 said:

Howie Roseman

Yeah … a genius no doubt … even he managed to miss out on a talent like Jefferson though …

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:31 AM by Aussie Joe

[JBI$111]

He's also made a lot of tough catches, he's been double teamed often and still makes catches, plays tough, hasn't really been hurt and looks quite legit in his first year. 

 

Our drafting decisions have been suspect for years. Same with McDermott's many coaching blunders.

 

However, I'm glad the Chiefs got their ass kicked! Hate KC!!!

[Brian Higgins hair]

Coleman pick was a waste

[nedboy7]

5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I promise, a 6”4 235 WR who runs a 4.6 will be available and Beane will make you forgot about all this 

 

I was about to go to bed..... now..... who knows. 

[Neo]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

 I don’t want Worthy. I don’t think he fits our offense.

But it doesn’t matter!

 

He could be a massive historic bust and it would STILL be a bad trade for the Bills.

 

You don’t gift-wrap your archnemesis the player they desire!!!!

You don’t give the team that routinely beats you in the playoffs, wha they want!

 

You hang up when they call!

 

Says every arm chair GM on his sofa.   I know this particular trade has you vexed, but there’s no logic or reason behind your view.   One, we swapped picks.  Two, what we do with the picks is what matters.   Three, had we “won” the trade, wouldn’t it be awesome to beat your arch enemies?   If that’s the case, can you argue you always trade with archenemies?   Of course you can’t.

 

You trade with whomever offers you value.  Your scouting department determines value.  Best be right …

[Einstein]

*ringggg*
 

*riiiiiinnnnggg*

 

Beane: “Hello, Buffalo Bills draft room”

 

Chiefs: “Oh, hey Brandon. It’s the Chiefs. You know, the team that has kept your club from the Super Bowl for the past half decade?”

 

Beane: “What can I do ya for?”

 

Chiefs: “Well, there is a player we want at your pick. Mind if we take him and hopefully make our ball club even better? As you know, we draft pretty well, so the pick is probably going to work out for us.”

 

Beane: “Absolutely! That’s a great idea! Give me a couple minutes to do the paperwork and  then you’ll be free to jump ahead of us and take the player you desire”

 

Chiefs: “Wow, thanks Brandon. You’re pretty cool for a guy we beat all the time”.

 

Beane: “Aww, shucks, thanks”.

 

That’s how I like to imagine the conversation went.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:35 AM by Einstein

[appoo]

Also keep in mind Worthy is likely not going to be a different player than he is right now. He will never be able to consistently win against physical coverage, he’s not gonna get more jitter buggy. He won’t get faster.

 

Keon Coleman on the other hand is just getting started. He will get better against physical coverage, he is going to get more explosive with a professional strength & condition and nutrition program. He’s going to be able play inside/outside, on and off the ball. 
 

If you’re mad at the bills not getting Worthy then you’re made at the Bills playing Khalil Shakir over Xavier Worthy

[Aussie Joe]

2 minutes ago, Brian Higgins hair said:

Coleman pick was a waste

Remains to he seen …. Was always going be a development pick though  …. Seems odd in hindsight 

[appoo]

1 minute ago, Einstein said:

*ringggg*
 

*riiiiiinnnnggg*

 

Beane: “Hello, Buffalo Bills draft room”

 

Chiefs: “Oh, hey Brandon. It’s the Chiefs. You know, the team that has kept your club from the Super Bowl for the past half decade?”

 

Beane: “What can I do ya for?”

 

Chiefs: “Well, there is a player we want at your pick. Mind if we take him and hopefully make our ball club even better? As you know, we draft pretty well, so the pick is probably going to work out for us.”

 

Beane: “Absolutely! That’s a great idea! Give me a couple minutes to do the paperwork and  then you’ll be free to jump ahead of us and take the player you desire”

 

Chiefs: “Wow, thanks Brandon. You’re pretty cool for a guy we beat all the time”.

 

Beane: “Aww, shucks, thanks”.

 

That’s how I like to imagine the conversation went.

Where does the bills netting a 3rd rounder come into play in all of this?

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

Remains to he seen …. Was always going be a development pick though  …. Seems odd in hindsight 

Getting a development pick where you thought you’d be have a maybe a borderline playoff roster?

[Aussie Joe]

4 minutes ago, Einstein said:

*ringggg*
 

*riiiiiinnnnggg*

 

Beane: “Hello, Buffalo Bills draft room”

 

Chiefs: “Oh, hey Brandon. It’s the Chiefs. You know, the team that has kept your club from the Super Bowl for the past half decade?”

 

Beane: “What can I do ya for?”

 

Chiefs: “Well, there is a player we want at your pick. Mind if we take him and hopefully make our ball club even better? As you know, we draft pretty well, so the pick is probably going to work out for us.”

 

Beane: “Absolutely! That’s a great idea! Give me a couple minutes to do the paperwork and  then you’ll be free to jump ahead of us and take the player you desire”

 

Chiefs: “Wow, thanks Brandon. You’re pretty cool for a guy we beat all the time”.

 

Beane: “Aww, shucks, thanks”.

 

That’s how I like to imagine the conversation went.

Probably … maybe  the Chiefs  should have taken an OL instead 

Edited yesterday at 03:38 AM by Aussie Joe

[zow2]

As i said in the other thread, the case is closed for now.  Worthy > Keon.  there’s no debate. hopefully 3 years from now we can say otherwise but for now, Keon is just not as good.  50/50 jump balls are not what QBs are throwing all that much anymore.  Every coach and QB knows how crushing any interception is to chances of winning.

[Big Turk]

Where was he before the Eagles went up 34-0?

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

It's still way too early to tell, Coleman was looking much better until that injury. 

[CoudyBills]

Special?  ***** me, this forum needs a breathalyzer.  

[Neo]

For the old timers ….  The Bills traded Mervin “The Magician” Briscoe to Miami.   He won two Super Bowls there, catching more passes than Paul Warfield in one of them.     Einstein’s dad is still furious.

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, appoo said:

 

If you’re mad at the bills not getting Worthy then you’re made at the Bills playing Khalil Shakir over Xavier Worthy

 

I can’t speak for others, but i’m not mad at the Bills not getting Worthy. I DONT WANT HIM.

 

Im mad that they traded with the Chiefs.

 

It doesn’t matter what player they picked the pick we traded them.

 

You don’t deal with your enemies! You don’t give your bully what they want! 

[Aussie Joe]

Just now, appoo said:

Getting a development pick where you thought you’d be have a maybe a borderline playoff roster?

What a dope if he thought that ?

 

My recollection was that he said that he always thinks the Bills are a chance as long as rhey have Josh Allen ? 

[HappyDays]

Sorry folks but nobody will know the outcome of that trade and the Coleman pick until two years from now. I'm not going to bother listing the litany of players, Bills and otherwise, who have siginificantly elevated their play in their 2nd and 3rd seasons. For all we know Worthy spends the rest of his rookie contract perpetually injured while Coleman turns into Eric Moulds. We just won't know for a couple years.

 

Best thing Beane can do is keep investing in the position to protect against the very real possibility that Coleman doesn't get significantly better.