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2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

That doesn't make Aikman better lol

Ya it's one of my biggest pet peeves lol- When championships are used an argument.


I guess Brad Johnson and Trent dilfer are objectively better than Josh, Dan Marino and Jim Kelly

 

 

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The fact that there’s a thread for Fitz being in Canton and another that essentially questions whether Allen is qualified right now is mind boggling lol

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14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Allen is better than Favre even without a SB on his resume IMHO

There was a stretch of several years during which nobody even debated who the best QB was because Favre was on a completely different level.  He won 3 consecutive MVPs and went to back to back Super Bowls win in one of them.  

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Johnny Unitas was certainly one of the best QB's of his time, but to see him at #1 makes me have to question if the criteria has changed a lot since then??  The rest of the names a the top are what I'd call more modern day QB's.

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Ed_Formerly_of_Roch,

 

I am not implying that Unitas is #1. He is one of 11 QB's that I put (in no particular order) above Allen's career as of right now.

 

I believe Allen will be ranked higher than Unitas, Favre, and several more when he is all said and done

 

 

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7 hours ago, Jay_Fixit said:

Nah. And Allen isn’t above Jim Kelly either.

Put Allen on those 90s teams and bet we win at least one of not two Super Bowls. Not sure Kelly gets us much further than Josh has the last 5 seasons.

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59 minutes ago, Billl said:

There was a stretch of several years during which nobody even debated who the best QB was because Favre was on a completely different level.  He won 3 consecutive MVPs and went to back to back Super Bowls win in one of them.  


Yeah and now there a several every year.  If Allen played then he would be in the GOAT convo.  

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

 

Disagree-  IS he the better QB?  Yes- I agree, Allen is better than Favre— but accolades matter.  Lombardis matter more than any of the accolades when it comes to QBs.  Can’t put Allen ahead of Favre until he, at least, leads his team to a Super Bowl imo 

Agreed. Warner was amazing and, at his best, might even be top 10 in my book. 


This isn’t a list though of most accolades, it’s who was the better QB.  And Allen, as you said, is a better player than Favre.  

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2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

That is the last component Allen needs.  Use the athleticism as a last resort.  He must take another step mentally and be more cerebral about the game.

I agree. Been saying it for about three years now.  He made some big strides this season, and I'm hoping for another jump in 2025. 

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6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:


Yeah and now there a several every year.  If Allen played then he would be in the GOAT convo.  


This isn’t a list though of most accolades, it’s who was the better QB.  And Allen, as you said, is a better player than Favre.  

But they’ll never be regarded as better because accolades certainly do matter.  
 

Who’s better, Mahomes or Allen?  I think Allen is.  I’m sure you do to.  But that’s not what matters most.  Showing that you can get the job done matters. 

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4 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

I agree. Been saying it for about three years now.  He made some big strides this season, and I'm hoping for another jump in 2025. 

What still lags behind Mahomes ans Burrow, is his ability to hit the back foot and throw with anticipation.  Now we saw some tosses like that this year and they were beautiful.  That has to be more of the norm going forward.

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16 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

If we can surround him with more talent he could end as THE all time great.  Not kidding.   Give the guy more to work with!


It feels good to say this, and ability-wise, I believe it. The kid needs super bowls though… plain and simple. 

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